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Ann,

I've been thinking about gold filling replacements if the dentist tells me

the composite ones don't last very long. Gold fillings are supposedly good

for life and don't break down or leach into the body as the filling ages as

the mercury amalgams do. Definitely more expensive though. Steve B.

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> Bullock wrote:

> >

> > I have thought about having 80% of the molars pulled and leaving just

enough

> > to chew with but decided against it for the reasons you cited. Steve

>

> Mornin' Steve.

>

> It is a difficult to make a decision, one way or the other - keep 'em

> or yank 'em. The not so funny thing is: Here I am at 52, and I

> seemyself following in the footsteps of my father. I think he had his

> teeth pulled somewhere between 50-55; dead at 57. In view of his

> overall health, the icky skin rashes he would get, I now think he also

> had chronic, untreated Lyme Disease

>

> Of course, back then no one knew it existed. Now they do, but they deny

> that it can be chronic, if you are 'treated' with abx for 28 days.

> Somewhere I did read that they do admit, if never treated, then is

> chronic. Duh! I need to think more about having the teeth out.

>

> Insofar as the various plastic composites that they use for fillings.

> My uderstanding is that the plastic ones just don't hold up very well,

> even on non-chewing surfaces. If replacing a large filling in molars,

> will not last; may contribute to more teeth pain/sensitivity. Then,

> there is the question: what does the plastic composites leach out?

> More of the icky pthlates? (sic) and what else?

>

> Then there is root canals. I'm not sure on this, but I think the gutta

> percha that is normally used - isn't that mercury? I've heard about

> Biocalyx? Biocalix? being used instead, but do not know if that is

> Hg-free. Recently read that all root canals should be a 2-part process

> - clean out, pack them with ?? for a time, return and have the canals

> filled. They do not do that here - 1 visit only. Guess they don't make

> enough profit if they do it properly, in the best interest of the

> patient.

>

> Guess it's time to re-subscribe to sci.med.dentistry newsgroup :(

>

> MA

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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When I was researching I read enough about gold being bad too, that I was

glad I hadn't done gold before I learned that. I wish I could remember

where I read it, but I read so much I'll never remember. Just do your

research, as always.

I was particularly concerned about composites because I have tourette's

and sometimes smash my teeth together. But the composite they used on my

DiamondCrown was stronger in all measures that real teeth. Of course lab

results don't always translate into real life. I know there is always

some risk with everything. I've been very happy with my composites, but

it's only been 3 months.

Cindi

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Ann,

I've been thinking about gold filling replacements if the dentist tells me

the composite ones don't last very long. Gold fillings are supposedly

good

for life and don't break down or leach into the body as the filling ages

as

the mercury amalgams do. Definitely more expensive though. Steve B.

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canderson@... wrote:

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> When I was researching I read enough about gold being bad too, that I was

> glad I hadn't done gold before I learned that. I wish I could remember

> where I read it, but I read so much I'll never remember. Just do your

> research, as always.

I'll get to checking out gold later. I'm swamped with stuff to look up

:)) And, can't afford to do right now anyway. But I am curious if pure

gold leaches? or if it is whatever metal(s) they mix with it?

Arrgh.. newsgroup sci.med.dentistry. Most of the docs there will give

honest answer BUT they will also discourage pulling teeth.

> I was particularly concerned about composites because I have tourette's

> and sometimes smash my teeth together. But the composite they used on my

> DiamondCrown was stronger in all measures that real teeth. Of course lab

> results don't always translate into real life. I know there is always

> some risk with everything. I've been very happy with my composites, but

> it's only been 3 months.

Cool! I'll ask him about that. Even if it means just doing 1-2 teeth a

year, so be it. Now, I am wondering about previous dentists - telling

me that replacing amalgam would result in tooth pain/sensitivity. Maybe

just more lies? I am so sick of this.

MA

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> My whole mouth is root canals and porcelin crowns.................What are

> you trying to get rid of?????

Hi Carole. Not sure what's going on. A couple of years ago, just did

the usual urine in a cup and had it tested for Hg. Supposedly within

normal limits, but again..if Hg is not safe in the world, then it isn't

in mouth either. Makes me wonder what effect it has on bacteria. Also

wondering if Hg makes for sore nerves too?? MA

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Ann,

I found some old posts from a couple of other lists I am on re: gold

fillings. I am going to try to send them as attachments, as I copied them

from the archives, but I'm not the most computer literate person around - I

leave that stuff to DH, so if you don't get them, let me know, and when DH

gets home from work tomorrow, I'll have him help me send them. what I can

answer is this: 1. folks on my lists have used diamond Crown and diamond

lite with good results, also something called Targis. I have always

experienced sensitivity, esp. to heat and cold. While for the first few

months, I was probably more sensitive, I never experienced pain except for a

crown whose bite was off. when the bite was adjusted, no more pain.

Sensitivity increased slightly, but wore off as I was told. The only tooth

right now that is a problem with pain and sensitivity is the one with the

cavitation that needs to be pulled. Hope this helps.

Donna in NC

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> canderson@... wrote:

> >

> > When I was researching I read enough about gold being bad too, that I

was

> > glad I hadn't done gold before I learned that. I wish I could remember

> > where I read it, but I read so much I'll never remember. Just do your

> > research, as always.

>

> I'll get to checking out gold later. I'm swamped with stuff to look up

> :)) And, can't afford to do right now anyway. But I am curious if pure

> gold leaches? or if it is whatever metal(s) they mix with it?

> Arrgh.. newsgroup sci.med.dentistry. Most of the docs there will give

> honest answer BUT they will also discourage pulling teeth.

>

>

> > I was particularly concerned about composites because I have tourette's

> > and sometimes smash my teeth together. But the composite they used on

my

> > DiamondCrown was stronger in all measures that real teeth. Of course

lab

> > results don't always translate into real life. I know there is always

> > some risk with everything. I've been very happy with my composites, but

> > it's only been 3 months.

>

> Cool! I'll ask him about that. Even if it means just doing 1-2 teeth a

> year, so be it. Now, I am wondering about previous dentists - telling

> me that replacing amalgam would result in tooth pain/sensitivity. Maybe

> just more lies? I am so sick of this.

> MA

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Donna Pruitt wrote:

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> Ann,

> I found some old posts from a couple of other lists I am on re: gold

> fillings.

Thank You!! Unfortunately, I do not believe that allows

attachemnts? or this group is set to not allow them? (virus

protection?) I know some of the groups have a File setup where you can

upload things and store them at . I'm sure someone else knows more

about this than I do, since I've never had occasion to do anything like

that.

MA and ps: I really like the people in this group! Y'all extremely

helpful. I wish us all well. g'night.

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MA, go to altcorp to see what effect Hg has on bacteria. Has big affinity

to Candida, does crazy stuff to enzymes.

>if Hg is not safe in the world, then it isn't

> in mouth either. Makes me wonder what effect it has on bacteria. Also

> wondering if Hg makes for sore nerves too?? MA

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I had some very minor sensitivity when my amalgams were replaced with

composite, but my teeth are very sensitive anyway and it was nothing

compared to what I'm used to. I remember being told by dentists that you

will have some sensitivity even when new amalgam fillings are put in. A

person at work said her husband got a composite and it drove him so crazy

with sensitivity that he pulled it out and had amalgam put back in. But I

don't know how long he waited to see if it would get better.

My guess is extra sensitivity is probably possible, and probably depends

on the type of material, how it is done, and the person.

Cindi

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Now, I am wondering about previous dentists - telling

me that replacing amalgam would result in tooth pain/sensitivity. Maybe

just more lies? I am so sick of this.

MA

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canderson@... wrote:

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> I had some very minor sensitivity when my amalgams were replaced

Thanks for the info. I know he is not going to want to just start

replacing because " there is no need " , but it's either that or I have

them pulled. I guess I'm leaning toward pulling them :( MA

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