Re: Immunocal vs Immunepro (Rich and others on whey)

[Guest guest]

Bea,

ImmunePro is a milk product, and milk is considered safe from BSE and has

never been included in the products from which one can catch the prion that

causes BSE.

I would not worry about it.

Regards, .

Immunocal vs Immunepro (Rich and others on

whey)

> Hello Folks,

>

> My son is a ME patient and has been taking Immunepro for one year. He

has had good results with this supplement. However, due to the " mad cow

scare " he has recently (two weeks ago now) switched

> to Immunocal. He has been feeling less well. Weak and sleepy are the

new symptoms.

>

> After reading Peggy's post on her negative response to Immunocal I am

concerned about these symptoms. Do you feel this is a normal response to

the change in the product? I just need some input.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Bea

[Guest guest]

Hi Bea,

I know a few CFS patients who find Immunocal to be much stronger despite

reports that Immunopro was stronger. Laurion on our list and others may feel

the same about this. It could be a stronger detox reaction. Some do better

on Immunopro, but I'm hearing that the preference is for Immunocal.

Al

Immunocal vs Immunepro (Rich and others on

whey)

> Hello Folks,

>

> My son is a ME patient and has been taking Immunepro for one year. He has

had good results with this supplement. However, due to the " mad cow scare "

he has recently (two weeks ago now) switched

> to Immunocal. He has been feeling less well. Weak and sleepy are the new

symptoms.

>

> After reading Peggy's post on her negative response to Immunocal I am

concerned about these symptoms. Do you feel this is a normal response to

the change in the product? I just need some input.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Bea

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bea

Dr. Cheney just recently told me that of the 3 whey products, he

prefers the Immunocal. And now that Immunocal can be obtained for

less cost than before, it is his first choice. He does not agree that

ImmunPlus and and Immunocal are " identical " .

It is true that many people respond differently, so you have to find

the one that works for you.

I have researched mad cow disease, and it seems that to anyone's

knowledge, mad cow disease has NOT affected DAIRY cattle, only beef

cattle. (I am not a doctor or scientist.) If anyone knows different,

please post.

For myself, I find ImmunoPlus to be mild and less effective than

Immunocal. It does not give me much pain relief or energy, but it

does not make sleepy. Immunocal makes me very sleepy, but gives great

pain relief. I just live with the sleepiness during the week, and

sleep the weekends away. I could not tolerate ImmunPro at all, and

had a wide variety of terrible symptoms.

Perhaps your son could lower the dose on Immunocal and work his way

up. By the way, sleepiness from Immunocal is a common effect in many

people, but of course not all.

Laurion

> Hello Folks,

>

> My son is a ME patient and has been taking Immunepro for one year.

He has had good results with this supplement. However, due to the

" mad cow scare " he has recently (two weeks ago now) switched

> to Immunocal. He has been feeling less well. Weak and sleepy are

the new symptoms.

>

> After reading Peggy's post on her negative response to Immunocal I

am concerned about these symptoms. Do you feel this is a normal

response to the change in the product? I just need some input.

>

> Thank you i

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurion,

I was told by a very knowledgeable person that for quite a long time

Immunocal was buying their whey protein from Imuplus and putting it in their

own packages. The two companies were involved in a lawsuit and I don't

believe that is the case any more. Steve

Re: Immunocal vs Immunepro (Rich and others on

whey)

> Bea

>

> Dr. Cheney just recently told me that of the 3 whey products, he

> prefers the Immunocal. And now that Immunocal can be obtained for

> less cost than before, it is his first choice. He does not agree that

> ImmunPlus and and Immunocal are " identical " .

>

> It is true that many people respond differently, so you have to find

> the one that works for you.

>

> I have researched mad cow disease, and it seems that to anyone's

> knowledge, mad cow disease has NOT affected DAIRY cattle, only beef

> cattle. (I am not a doctor or scientist.) If anyone knows different,

> please post.

>

> For myself, I find ImmunoPlus to be mild and less effective than

> Immunocal. It does not give me much pain relief or energy, but it

> does not make sleepy. Immunocal makes me very sleepy, but gives great

> pain relief. I just live with the sleepiness during the week, and

> sleep the weekends away. I could not tolerate ImmunPro at all, and

> had a wide variety of terrible symptoms.

>

> Perhaps your son could lower the dose on Immunocal and work his way

> up. By the way, sleepiness from Immunocal is a common effect in many

> people, but of course not all.

>

>

> Laurion

>

>

>

>

> > Hello Folks,

> >

> > My son is a ME patient and has been taking Immunepro for one year.

> He has had good results with this supplement. However, due to the

> " mad cow scare " he has recently (two weeks ago now) switched

> > to Immunocal. He has been feeling less well. Weak and sleepy are

> the new symptoms.

> >

> > After reading Peggy's post on her negative response to Immunocal I

> am concerned about these symptoms. Do you feel this is a normal

> response to the change in the product? I just need some input.

> >

> > Thank you i

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/6/01 1:28:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,

clemsonjk@... writes:

<<

It would be interesting to find out just how different the two wheys

are now, assuming the above is true. I take Imuplus and have thought

of trying the 'Cal again. I've tried both but was only on the 'Cal a

short time--notlong enough to judge its effectiveness. >>

I take the PLUS, the CAL is milk protien and the Plus says whey protein.

What is the difference? My stomach does much better on the Plus or some

reason. The CAL makes me constipated.

[Guest guest]

> Hi Laurion,

>

> I was told by a very knowledgeable person that for quite a long time

> Immunocal was buying their whey protein from Imuplus and putting it

in their

> own packages. The two companies were involved in a lawsuit and I

don't

> believe that is the case any more. Steve

It would be interesting to find out just how different the two wheys

are now, assuming the above is true. I take Imuplus and have thought

of trying the 'Cal again. I've tried both but was only on the 'Cal a

short time--notlong enough to judge its effectiveness.