Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 " jane_doe_press " wrote: >>>> Dave, I don't know about licorice and hypercoagulation - it doesn't have that effect on me but perhaps I don't take enought or the right type.<<<<< Licorice extract is difficult to dose correctly. It requires the right product and lots of help for a few weeks. Most PWCs who use it get poor results at first, especially if they are on their own. >>>>I am really sensitive to anything that raises cortisol, it makes me feel terrible.<<<<< Yes, this is normal. What we believe is happening is that, due to months of low cortisol levels, the cells in the brain of a PWC upregulate the number of cortisol receptors on the cell's surface in order to capture as much cortisol as possible. These cells are cortisol starved and trying to take in as much as they can get. Then, when you take something the increases cortisol levels, the extra receptors load up and cause the cell to be super saturated with cortisol and you feel terrible. We have found that when someone like yourself begins a program to increase cortisol they must go very slow. If they overload, they must back off for a day and go again 24 hours later. After about 10 days, the cortisol receptors are downregulated and one responds normally. >>>>>But I just want to say that you were the first person I met on the net, years ago now, that suggested something to me that to this day works - and you mention it below - when I feel bad, sort of " toxic-yuck-bad " one dose of aspirin clears this up for a few hours to days. Thank you. <<<<<<< Yes, if you really feel lousy, aspirin works like a wonder drug. Aspirin inhibits nitric oxide (vasodialator) and could be helping by raising blood pressure. It also thins blood and could be helping by reducing hypercoagulation. This was why I posted about licorice extract as an inhibitor of thrombin, which also reduces hypercoagulation. Dr Posnecker dose licorice extract every day and I was recommending it every other day. Every other day gets around the feedback problem that would only lower cortisol. But Posnecker patients get better results then those following my protocol so I was beginning to think that licorice might be doing more than just raising cortisol. Licorice extract also inhibits complement which is involved in the immune response. Maybe inhibiting complement would help a PWC feel better? It sure is an area of research that promises a lot of help to PWCs. Complement is part of the immune response and plays a big part in red blood cell health and autoimmune illness. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search & DB=PubMed We know the immune system in CFS is in overdrive...the big question is why? And, how can we control it without doing more harm? I'll post more on complement later. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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