Re: Re: Oral Magnesium + Another days work./Steve/

January 1, 2001

answered:

I don't know. I have never had a doctor even mention magnesium much less

discuss intracellular vs. extracellular with me. I will follow your link

and read about SIBO.

Steve wrote:

First I want to thank you for all the effort you have put into your

website. Very useful information. I have two questions. How

important is it that RBC Mg be measured vs. plasma? My PCP said that

regardless of the body stores of Mg, we should only be concerned about

the plamsa levels since that is where the " active " level is found?

Regardless of how much I magnesium malate I take, the plasma level is

either outside or near the bottom of the reference range.

Second question: Are you familiar with the work of Pimental et al at

Cedars-Sinai in LA regarding their work on small intestinal bacterial

overgrowth (SIBO)? (Their published article can be seen at

www.immunesupport.com/fame . Search word:SIBO) Drs Pimental and

Wallace presented it at the FAME meeting last May. My rheumatologist

is in touch with them and is preparing to replicate their work. I'd

appreciate any thoughts you may have re their findings as I will

probably be included in the study.

Thanks,

Steve :-D

> I think oral magnesium makes perfect sense. Taking magnesium

chloride

> orally would be no more and much less risky than taking it by

injection. I

> have been writing up some things for my web page. This was what I

did

> yesterday. http://www.cfsdoc.org/biological_terrain.htm This

analysis

> shows why magnesium is important. I think it would be useful to

combine it

> with glutamine and zinc to reverse oxidative stress done to the

body. I am

> checking out places to get bulk glutamine and magnesium chloride. I

am also

> exploring the effects of redox potential in blood. Redox potential

is

> different than pH. It is a measure of H- and contributes an

electron.

> Free radicals are neutralized by electrons. Water with more H-

forms

> smaller clusters and hydrates better. I have been using a water

ionizer and

> have noticed that I can drink half a tall glass of water quickly,

pause 30

> seconds, and then drink the other half. I also bought an

instrument that

> measures pH and redox potential and am able to measure my ionized

water at

> various settings to determine that the redox potential does actually

change.

>

> I am going to try mg chloride or glycinate plus powdered glutamine

with a

> little zinc dissolved in ionized water every 2 hours.

>

> http://www.cfsdoc.org

> cfsdoc@p...

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January 3, 2001

I read the SIBO paper. I am working on developing further the work on

biological terrain, but the bottom line is that you create an internal

environment that is unfriendly to pathogenic organisms. Biological terrain

is measurable. The variables are pH, redox potential, and resistivity.

These can be measured in blood, urine and saliva. A simple way of doing

this is to get some pH paper and measure the 1st AM urine. Ideally it

should be 6.5 - 7. If it is lower, that indicates chronic acid buidup. It

must be a fasting measurement. I will have more information later.

Steve wrote