Re: COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC

[Guest guest]

Our Ped told us that a child should have about 50 words at age 18 months.

That's a median benchmark, which is a fancy way of saying that half of the kids

at that age will have more language and half will have less. He advised us to

start making note at that point, and track development beyond then. When our

Taryn still had no language at 30 months was when he started pushing the panic

button.

You are right to be concerned, given your history already. Give it 2-3 more

months and see if anything begins to develop.

Tim

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I'm starting to get a little worried about Toby. Can someone tell me

about what age a typical baby will say their first words? How many

words should a 15 month old say? I'm feeling a little bad about not

remembering this. I was an EXPERT when Logan was this age, but my

memory has gone bye-bye and most of my energy goes into autism. I

THINK I remember Logan having 3 or 4 words at 11-12 months (and he's

non-verbal now).

I'm sorry for asking this here, but I haven't been able to find any

of my books about this. Anyone with any thoughts?

worried mom,

Kaye

[Guest guest]

I will be disagreeable here LOL [story of my life huh?]

I think the developmental milestones/benchmarks are generally

bullsh*t. [Altho I will say that I believe the ones I read indicated

pointing and pre-verbal behavior at 15 months, with the first words at

18-20 months.]

My oldest son did not say his first word until age 2-1/2. He is age 7

now and reading at what is generally considered the 3rd grade level.

Not only does he have language, I cannot get him to shut up LOL. TWO

of my children were not even walking at 15 months [they waited until

16 months], the other two walked at 14 months.

So I believe all children are different. And I HATE when parents are

made to worry about their kids when they don't meet the " experts "

definition of milestones.

However, because your older child is autistic [or whatever dx on

spectrum], then you are right to be watching him. Does he have any

other indicators of delays, for example does he have behaviors or lack

of play or something like that?

But if you are concerned, and you believe your older son is autistic

because of a metals/vaccine connection, then you should consider not

vaccinating your child any more, or wait until he is much older. Here

is my vaccine information, if you are interested.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/parentin.htm#vaccines

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I would agree with your assessment of " experts " (so, you really

aren't disagreeable in my opinion, LOL). My son was very happy in a

regular private pre-school until I followed the advice of an " expert "

who said he belonged somewhere else. Soon after, we removed our son

from his wonderful pre-school and put him in our district's Early

Childhood program. It was a regretful decision because for him, it

was not a good fit. I am the first to recommend looking into Early

Childhood programs and have a little training in this area myself,

however, I am also one to realize that each child is an individual

and should be treated as such. I hate to think of all the time I

wasted fretting over my son not being right at all the bazillion

milestones they print up in those baby manuals.

It has been reported that Einstein talked very little until the age

of three or four and he obviously did just fine without

any " intervention " . Sowell wrote an excellent book on late

talkers I read when trying to solve the mystery of my son's delayed

language development. It is called " Late Talking Children " . Here is

a link provided by the author where he discusses the book:

http://www.tsowell.com/splateta.html.

My only concern for the original poster, and I think by your post you

are in agreement, is that her older son's delay or lack of language

can be attributed to autism and she reported the second child had

language, then lost it, which we know can be one of the

characteristics of autism. I emphasize CAN BE. This may be

meaningless, but if there is a problem, the sooner addressed, the

better. He could be suffering from ear infections and may not be

hearing well, thus not speaking. He could be uninterested in talking

or finds he gets what he needs without having to go to the effort of

talking. He could just be thinking about the theory of relativity!

> I will be disagreeable here LOL [story of my life huh?]

>

> I think the developmental milestones/benchmarks are generally

> bullsh*t. [Altho I will say that I believe the ones I read

indicated

> pointing and pre-verbal behavior at 15 months, with the first words

at

> 18-20 months.]

>

> My oldest son did not say his first word until age 2-1/2. He is

age 7

> now and reading at what is generally considered the 3rd grade

level.

> Not only does he have language, I cannot get him to shut up LOL.

TWO

> of my children were not even walking at 15 months [they waited

until

> 16 months], the other two walked at 14 months.

>

> So I believe all children are different. And I HATE when parents

are

> made to worry about their kids when they don't meet the " experts "

> definition of milestones.

>

> However, because your older child is autistic [or whatever dx on

> spectrum], then you are right to be watching him. Does he have any

> other indicators of delays, for example does he have behaviors or

lack

> of play or something like that?

>

> But if you are concerned, and you believe your older son is

autistic

> because of a metals/vaccine connection, then you should consider

not

> vaccinating your child any more, or wait until he is much older.

Here

> is my vaccine information, if you are interested.

>

> http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/parentin.htm#vaccines

[Guest guest]

Wow, count me in on the worry club, here. My almost 17mo girl is babbling

a lot but has very few " words " I see consistently. Sometimes 'mama',

sometimes 'nana' (banana), sometimes 'dad', and she says 'got' when she's

got something she's really pleased about. Let's hope for A LOT of language

development soon!

Terri

mom to Zane, 8yo hfa

At 11:41 PM 7/21/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Our Ped told us that a child should have about 50 words at age 18

>months. That's a median benchmark, which is a fancy way of saying that

>half of the kids at that age will have more language and half will have

>less. He advised us to start making note at that point, and track

>development beyond then. When our Taryn still had no language at 30

>months was when he started pushing the panic button.

>

>You are right to be concerned, given your history already. Give it 2-3

>more months and see if anything begins to develop.

>

>Tim

> [ ] COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC

>

>

> I'm starting to get a little worried about Toby. Can someone tell me

> about what age a typical baby will say their first words? How many

> words should a 15 month old say? I'm feeling a little bad about not

> remembering this. I was an EXPERT when Logan was this age, but my

> memory has gone bye-bye and most of my energy goes into autism. I

> THINK I remember Logan having 3 or 4 words at 11-12 months (and he's

> non-verbal now).

>

> I'm sorry for asking this here, but I haven't been able to find any

> of my books about this. Anyone with any thoughts?

>

> worried mom,

> Kaye

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to hear you are ok .

J

From: <danielwalker94949@...>bird mites Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 4:55:51 PMSubject: Re: completely off topic

Off topic. I can relate. I just got hit by a drunk and my car is totaled. There is a chance he doesn t even have insurance. I had the car for two weeks. I would make sure you get someone who absolutely knows what they are doing. I mistakenly had someone who said they did and blew out my engine. Plus you want to make sure you are safe.On Tue May 11th, 2010 4:42 PM EDT fritolay66 wrote:>Needed to vent. Anybody know how to change brake pads? Thats what I am going to attempt today. I don't like dirt, bugs, cars that don't run forever,.... ...just pouting. Who the hell can afford 160 per hour shop time? with a minimum? What a rip!!!! Especially when the pads are only twenty bucks? Rotor seems fine, no grooves. Sounded so awful, you could here me brake and grinding and coming down the street.>>Sorry guys, got no one else to vent to.>>

Frito>>>

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Easy? Okay, if thats the case then perhaps I will go try. Are you kidding? I think its great to hear you would help even if you aren't here!! I'm laughing when I say this, but I have an interview tomorrow morning, I don't especially want to grime up my nails or heaven forbid, break one......snicker. just jk'ing now, I am kinda intimidated by this. Here I go. the guys at the auto parts store said it should only take about 15 minutes per pad. hahahaha. The last time they told me it should take me about 30 minutes for my fuel line, and I did that in about an hour and twenty minutes.

Thanks for letting me vent my nervousness. Time to hike up my pants and show some guts.

Frito

From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>bird mites Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 6:02:02 PMSubject: Re: completely off topic

Sorry just realized you already checked the rotors. Wish I was there. I would try to help for what little I could do. lol. In Light Lynn>> Needed to vent. Anybody know how to change brake pads? Thats what I am going to attempt today. I don't like dirt, bugs, cars that don't run forever,.... ...just pouting. Who the hell can afford 160 per hour shop time? with a minimum? What a rip!!!! Especially when the pads are only twenty bucks? Rotor seems fine, no grooves. Sounded so awful, you could here me brake and grinding and coming down the street.> > Sorry guys, got no one else to vent to.> >

Frito>

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad you were fine . Hope you had insurance! Re: completely off topic>> >Off topic. I can relate. I just got hit by a drunk and my car is totaled. There is a chance he doesn t even have insurance. I had the car for two weeks. I would make sure you get someone who absolutely knows what they are doing. I mistakenly had someone who said they did and blew out my engine. Plus you want to make sure you are safe.>>On Tue May 11th, 2010 4:42 PM EDT fritolay66 wrote:>>>Needed to vent. Anybody know how to change brake pads? Thats what I am going to attempt today. I don't like dirt, bugs, cars that don't run forever,.... ...just pouting. Who the hell can afford 160 per hour shop time? with a minimum? What a rip!!!! Especially when the pads are only twenty bucks? Rotor seems fine, no grooves. Sounded so awful, you could here me brake and grinding and coming down the street.>>>>Sorry guys, got no one else to vent to.>>>> Frito>>>>>> >>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks you all for letting me go off-topic and venting. This has been the toughest week for me in a long time, one hell of an emotional roller coaster the last two days and it is making me wonder about a herx. I recently added a herbal combo that is quite intense.

ranks right up even with these guys.

I am awed by these guys kindness, or for that matter, their thoughtfulness. The flowers given to me after their fixing my car sent me into a blithering sobbing mess. Normally, flowers just don't make me emotional. Woke up yesterday with my eyes swollen shut and a headache from all the crying. I don't like to cry because I used to break out where my tears have fallen. Seems to be okay so far. Oh and the car, stops real nice!!! Its real nice.

I think I am on a more even keel today. Someone mentioned paying it forward. I promise.

Thursday night I got a phone call. If you are out there, I didn't say what I wanted to say, just so you know.

Okay, off to job hunting on the local scene. Thank you all.

Frito

From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 12:55:49 AMSubject: Re: Completely off topic

FritoThat was bueatiful. It made me cry. I think that is so wonderful you got that help with the surprize at the end.In Light Lynn>> I need to vent again, but I also need to tell someone about the kindness I have received in the last couple of days.> > Okay, my car saga. I ended up attempting to fix those damn brakes three times. Three times was not a charm, as I then had all the right tools and ended up shearing the bolts on the drivers side calipers. At this point I had no choice but to pick the closest shop to me and one that I had seen taking my son home from school. Of course I was bawling, the last straw or the icing on the cake thing, hence bawling. The

bolts sheared rather quickly, and I told them my technique of tapping them loose, yadi ya, and they said to try and get it in to them. I did get there without incident, and we talked about how I had done things. They assured me I had done nothing wrong, and were actually quite thrilled I even tried, and that they in the thrity years of doing this had sheared off many bolts. I told them I was not a professional, and I had only sheared off two bolts in my life, and I asked what I had done wrong. They said the only other thing> that I could have done was to apply high heat, obviously out of my capabilities.> > They asked about my situation, and I told them. They took the car at 4:00 yesterday and gave me a ride home. Called me at 8 this morning saying there was enough of the bolts left that they should be able to get them out rather easily. And said they would call when they were done.

They called at 11 to pick up my car. They did not charge me a dime, and they ended up replacing not only the pads, but the calipers, and rotors and checked the back brakes as well. They said they were happy I came to them, and that they were in a position to help me. And then, the best part of it all, they gave me flowers for Mother's Day. Hence more bawling.> > Kindness is never forgotten.> > Frito>