Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

[Guest guest]

>Tuesday August 29 10:21 AM ET

>Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

>

>By Pippa Wysong

>

>TORONTO (Reuters Health) - People who need vitamin B12 replacement may

>not need to get a shot in the arm after all.

>Instead, they can use a form of the vitamin that dissolves under the

>tongue.

>

>In a study presented at the 28th World Congress of the International

>Society of Hematology, researchers revealed that a

>sub-lingual form of the vitamin is just as effective as an

>intramuscular shot.

>

>The vitamin is available in the form of small nuggets, which need to

>be placed under the tongue to dissolve.

>

>Dr. Pinhas Stark, from the Institute of Hematology and the Department

>of Gastroenterology at the Rabin Medical Center in

>Petah Tiqva, Israel, reported that blood levels of 18 patients

>deficient in vitamin B12 increased to normal levels after only a few

>days of treatment.

>

>Of the patients, five had pernicious anemia, two had Crohn's disease,

>and seven were vegetarian. All started off with blood

>levels of vitamin B12 (also called cobalamin) close to half of what it

>should have been. Four of the patients had been long-term

>blood donors, but were not anemic.

>

>The study was done because B12 injections are a problem with some

>patients, leading them to stop treatment. ``Injections can

>be painful, problematic in patients with bleeding tendency, or in

>patients who are extremely thin. It can be difficult to provide for

>patients who are elderly or disabled, and costly when given by health

>professionals,'' Stark said.

>

>The patients were asked to take two of the sub-lingual nuggets daily

>for 7 to 10 days, half an hour before breakfast, but after

>drinking a glass of water. Each nugget contains 1,000 micrograms of

>vitamin B12, and are available over-the-counter.

>

>All the patients eventually attained normal blood levels of the

>vitamin. Most either doubled or quadrupled their initial deficient

>levels, and no side effects were reported.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting that! I'm going to try some sublingual B12 and see

if it helps anything (I was NOT willing to start in on a series of shots

;@)

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[Guest guest]

Al,

Please let me know if you find a source for hydroxycobalamin B-12 in

sublingual form as I'm taking it primarily for it's toxin-neutralizing

properties which the other forms of B-12 lack. You may have posted

something on this a while back. I can't remember. Steve B.

Fw: " Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection "

>

> To all those who asked about the B12 study, here it is.

> Al

>

> > >

> > >Tuesday August 29 10:21 AM ET

> > >Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

> > >

> > >By Pippa Wysong

> > >

> > >TORONTO (Reuters Health) - People who need vitamin B12 replacement may

> > >not need to get a shot in the arm after all.

> > >Instead, they can use a form of the vitamin that dissolves under the

> > >tongue.

> > >

> > >In a study presented at the 28th World Congress of the International

> > >Society of Hematology, researchers revealed that a

> > >sub-lingual form of the vitamin is just as effective as an

> > >intramuscular shot.

> > >

> > >The vitamin is available in the form of small nuggets, which need to

> > >be placed under the tongue to dissolve.

> > >

> > >Dr. Pinhas Stark, from the Institute of Hematology and the Department

> > >of Gastroenterology at the Rabin Medical Center in

> > >Petah Tiqva, Israel, reported that blood levels of 18 patients

> > >deficient in vitamin B12 increased to normal levels after only a few

> > >days of treatment.

> > >

> > >Of the patients, five had pernicious anemia, two had Crohn's disease,

> > >and seven were vegetarian. All started off with blood

> > >levels of vitamin B12 (also called cobalamin) close to half of what it

> > >should have been. Four of the patients had been long-term

> > >blood donors, but were not anemic.

> > >

> > >The study was done because B12 injections are a problem with some

> > >patients, leading them to stop treatment. ``Injections can

> > >be painful, problematic in patients with bleeding tendency, or in

> > >patients who are extremely thin. It can be difficult to provide for

> > >patients who are elderly or disabled, and costly when given by health

> > >professionals,'' Stark said.

> > >

> > >The patients were asked to take two of the sub-lingual nuggets daily

> > >for 7 to 10 days, half an hour before breakfast, but after

> > >drinking a glass of water. Each nugget contains 1,000 micrograms of

> > >vitamin B12, and are available over-the-counter.

> > >

> > >All the patients eventually attained normal blood levels of the

> > >vitamin. Most either doubled or quadrupled their initial deficient

> > >levels, and no side effects were reported.

> > >

> >

> >

> > >

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

To all those who asked about the B12 study, here it is.

Al

> >

> >Tuesday August 29 10:21 AM ET

> >Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

> >

> >By Pippa Wysong

> >

> >TORONTO (Reuters Health) - People who need vitamin B12 replacement may

> >not need to get a shot in the arm after all.

> >Instead, they can use a form of the vitamin that dissolves under the

> >tongue.

> >

> >In a study presented at the 28th World Congress of the International

> >Society of Hematology, researchers revealed that a

> >sub-lingual form of the vitamin is just as effective as an

> >intramuscular shot.

> >

> >The vitamin is available in the form of small nuggets, which need to

> >be placed under the tongue to dissolve.

> >

> >Dr. Pinhas Stark, from the Institute of Hematology and the Department

> >of Gastroenterology at the Rabin Medical Center in

> >Petah Tiqva, Israel, reported that blood levels of 18 patients

> >deficient in vitamin B12 increased to normal levels after only a few

> >days of treatment.

> >

> >Of the patients, five had pernicious anemia, two had Crohn's disease,

> >and seven were vegetarian. All started off with blood

> >levels of vitamin B12 (also called cobalamin) close to half of what it

> >should have been. Four of the patients had been long-term

> >blood donors, but were not anemic.

> >

> >The study was done because B12 injections are a problem with some

> >patients, leading them to stop treatment. ``Injections can

> >be painful, problematic in patients with bleeding tendency, or in

> >patients who are extremely thin. It can be difficult to provide for

> >patients who are elderly or disabled, and costly when given by health

> >professionals,'' Stark said.

> >

> >The patients were asked to take two of the sub-lingual nuggets daily

> >for 7 to 10 days, half an hour before breakfast, but after

> >drinking a glass of water. Each nugget contains 1,000 micrograms of

> >vitamin B12, and are available over-the-counter.

> >

> >All the patients eventually attained normal blood levels of the

> >vitamin. Most either doubled or quadrupled their initial deficient

> >levels, and no side effects were reported.

> >

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/24/2000 7:08:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

bullocks@... writes:

<< Al,

Please let me know if you find a source for hydroxycobalamin B-12 in

sublingual form >>

Not Al, here, but you can get it at www.smartbasics.com. It is called

Nutrisorb B12. It's a liquid hydroxy made by InterPlexus, and has 50 mcg.

(830% RDA) per drop. Not too expensive, and has only hydroxy and water in

it. No affiliation w/ interplexus or smartbasics.

[Guest guest]

Inthepresent,

Thanks for the info. on the sublingual hydroxy. Steve B.

Re: " Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection "

>

> In a message dated 9/24/2000 7:08:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> bullocks@... writes:

>

> << Al,

>

> Please let me know if you find a source for hydroxycobalamin B-12 in

> sublingual form >>

> Not Al, here, but you can get it at www.smartbasics.com. It is

called

> Nutrisorb B12. It's a liquid hydroxy made by InterPlexus, and has 50 mcg.

> (830% RDA) per drop. Not too expensive, and has only hydroxy and water in

> it. No affiliation w/ interplexus or smartbasics.

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

Subject: Fw: " Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection "

> > > >Tuesday August 29 10:21 AM ET

> > >Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

> > >

> > >By Pippa Wysong

> > >

> > >TORONTO (Reuters Health) - People who need vitamin B12 replacement may

> > >not need to get a shot in the arm after all.

> > >Instead, they can use a form of the vitamin that dissolves under the

> > >tongue.

> > >

> > >In a study presented at the 28th World Congress of the International

> > >Society of Hematology, researchers revealed that a

> > >sub-lingual form of the vitamin is just as effective as an

> > >intramuscular shot.

> > >

> > >The vitamin is available in the form of small nuggets, which need to

> > >be placed under the tongue to dissolve.

> > >

> > >Dr. Pinhas Stark, from the Institute of Hematology and the Department

> > >of Gastroenterology at the Rabin Medical Center in

> > >Petah Tiqva, Israel, reported that blood levels of 18 patients

> > >deficient in vitamin B12 increased to normal levels after only a few

> > >days of treatment.

> > >

> > >Of the patients, five had pernicious anemia, two had Crohn's disease,

> > >and seven were vegetarian. All started off with blood

> > >levels of vitamin B12 (also called cobalamin) close to half of what it

> > >should have been. Four of the patients had been long-term

> > >blood donors, but were not anemic.

> > >

> > >The study was done because B12 injections are a problem with some

> > >patients, leading them to stop treatment. ``Injections can

> > >be painful, problematic in patients with bleeding tendency, or in

> > >patients who are extremely thin. It can be difficult to provide for

> > >patients who are elderly or disabled, and costly when given by health

> > >professionals,'' Stark said.

> > >

> > >The patients were asked to take two of the sub-lingual nuggets daily

> > >for 7 to 10 days, half an hour before breakfast, but after

> > >drinking a glass of water. Each nugget contains 1,000 micrograms of

> > >vitamin B12, and are available over-the-counter.

> > >

> > >All the patients eventually attained normal blood levels of the

> > >vitamin. Most either doubled or quadrupled their initial deficient

> > >levels, and no side effects were reported.

> > >

>

>

[Guest guest]

The unfortunate thing about the B12 under the tongue is that it always has

sorbitol in it or another type of substance like that and that stuff makes me

and many other people sick. Is anyone using an oral B12 under the tongue

without this stuff in it?

[Guest guest]

Re-posted for the interest of others.

Al

> >Tuesday August 29 10:21 AM ET

> >Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

> >

> >By Pippa Wysong

> >

> >TORONTO (Reuters Health) - People who need vitamin B12 replacement may

> >not need to get a shot in the arm after all.

> >Instead, they can use a form of the vitamin that dissolves under the

> >tongue.

> >

> >In a study presented at the 28th World Congress of the International

> >Society of Hematology, researchers revealed that a

> >sub-lingual form of the vitamin is just as effective as an

> >intramuscular shot.

> >

> >The vitamin is available in the form of small nuggets, which need to

> >be placed under the tongue to dissolve.

> >

> >Dr. Pinhas Stark, from the Institute of Hematology and the Department

> >of Gastroenterology at the Rabin Medical Center in

> >Petah Tiqva, Israel, reported that blood levels of 18 patients

> >deficient in vitamin B12 increased to normal levels after only a few

> >days of treatment.

> >

> >Of the patients, five had pernicious anemia, two had Crohn's disease,

> >and seven were vegetarian. All started off with blood

> >levels of vitamin B12 (also called cobalamin) close to half of what it

> >should have been. Four of the patients had been long-term

> >blood donors, but were not anemic.

> >

> >The study was done because B12 injections are a problem with some

> >patients, leading them to stop treatment. ``Injections can

> >be painful, problematic in patients with bleeding tendency, or in

> >patients who are extremely thin. It can be difficult to provide for

> >patients who are elderly or disabled, and costly when given by health

> >professionals,'' Stark said.

> >

> >The patients were asked to take two of the sub-lingual nuggets daily

> >for 7 to 10 days, half an hour before breakfast, but after

> >drinking a glass of water. Each nugget contains 1,000 micrograms of

> >vitamin B12, and are available over-the-counter.

> >

> >All the patients eventually attained normal blood levels of the

> >vitamin. Most either doubled or quadrupled their initial deficient

> >levels, and no side effects were reported.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

how much b12 is safe and is it ok to try it if your

not sure if you are lacking b12 or are most of us

lacking b12 with cfs?

--- Al Melillo <melillo3@...> wrote:

> Re-posted for the interest of others.

> Al

>

> > >Tuesday August 29 10:21 AM ET

> > >Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection

> > >

> > >By Pippa Wysong

> > >

> > >TORONTO (Reuters Health) - People who need

> vitamin B12 replacement may

> > >not need to get a shot in the arm after all.

> > >Instead, they can use a form of the vitamin that

> dissolves under the

> > >tongue.

> > >

> > >In a study presented at the 28th World Congress

> of the International

> > >Society of Hematology, researchers revealed that

> a

> > >sub-lingual form of the vitamin is just as

> effective as an

> > >intramuscular shot.

> > >

> > >The vitamin is available in the form of small

> nuggets, which need to

> > >be placed under the tongue to dissolve.

> > >

> > >Dr. Pinhas Stark, from the Institute of

> Hematology and the Department

> > >of Gastroenterology at the Rabin Medical Center

> in

> > >Petah Tiqva, Israel, reported that blood levels

> of 18 patients

> > >deficient in vitamin B12 increased to normal

> levels after only a few

> > >days of treatment.

> > >

> > >Of the patients, five had pernicious anemia, two

> had Crohn's disease,

> > >and seven were vegetarian. All started off with

> blood

> > >levels of vitamin B12 (also called cobalamin)

> close to half of what it

> > >should have been. Four of the patients had been

> long-term

> > >blood donors, but were not anemic.

> > >

> > >The study was done because B12 injections are a

> problem with some

> > >patients, leading them to stop treatment.

> ``Injections can

> > >be painful, problematic in patients with bleeding

> tendency, or in

> > >patients who are extremely thin. It can be

> difficult to provide for

> > >patients who are elderly or disabled, and costly

> when given by health

> > >professionals,'' Stark said.

> > >

> > >The patients were asked to take two of the

> sub-lingual nuggets daily

> > >for 7 to 10 days, half an hour before breakfast,

> but after

> > >drinking a glass of water. Each nugget contains

> 1,000 micrograms of

> > >vitamin B12, and are available over-the-counter.

> > >

> > >All the patients eventually attained normal blood

> levels of the

> > >vitamin. Most either doubled or quadrupled their

> initial deficient

> > >levels, and no side effects were reported.

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal

> experiences with each other, not to give medical

> advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

> how much b12 is safe and is it ok to try it if your

> not sure if you are lacking b12 or are most of us

> lacking b12 with cfs?

>

Hi ,

Most CFSers have low B12, I think you just try it and see if you

feel better. I use a sublingual B12-2500 mcg.

Al

[Guest guest]

There is a need for B12 in the classic sense. But people also do very

high dose B12 injections which act to detoxify the brain. It is believed

you can't achieve this by any kind of b12 pills. For this people take

5-10mg a day of hydroxycobalimin. This is thought to reduce brain fog as

well as prevent permanent damage.

Cindi

melillo3@...

06/12/01 09:28 PM

Please respond to

cc:

Subject: Re: Fw: " Vitamin B12 by mouth as

good as injection "

> how much b12 is safe and is it ok to try it if your

> not sure if you are lacking b12 or are most of us

> lacking b12 with cfs?

>

Hi ,

Most CFSers have low B12, I think you just try it and see if you

feel better. I use a sublingual B12-2500 mcg.

Al

[Guest guest]

any suggestions for confusion and bad memory im seeing

a lyme doc soon to see if i have that instead of cfs.

i seem to have long and short term memory and feel

very confsued is this part of cfs to? thanks michelle

--- melillo3@... wrote:

>

> > how much b12 is safe and is it ok to try it if

> your

> > not sure if you are lacking b12 or are most of us

> > lacking b12 with cfs?

> >

>

> Hi ,

> Most CFSers have low B12, I think you just try it

> and see if you

> feel better. I use a sublingual B12-2500 mcg.

> Al

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal

> experiences with each other, not to give medical

> advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

so this hydroxy stuff does the same thing as high

doses of b12 injections? is this at the health store?

--- canderson@... wrote:

> There is a need for B12 in the classic sense. But

> people also do very

> high dose B12 injections which act to detoxify the

> brain. It is believed

> you can't achieve this by any kind of b12 pills.

> For this people take

> 5-10mg a day of hydroxycobalimin. This is thought

> to reduce brain fog as

> well as prevent permanent damage.

>

> Cindi

>

>

>

>

>

> melillo3@...

> 06/12/01 09:28 PM

> Please respond to

>

>

>

> cc:

> Subject: Re: Fw:

> " Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection "

>

>

> > how much b12 is safe and is it ok to try it if

> your

> > not sure if you are lacking b12 or are most of us

> > lacking b12 with cfs?

> >

>

> Hi ,

> Most CFSers have low B12, I think you just try it

> and see if you

> feel better. I use a sublingual B12-2500 mcg.

> Al

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal

> experiences with each other, not to give medical

> advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I think I confused you. My brain doesn't work as good as it used

to.

The hydroxy I spoke of IS the injections.

Cindi

michelle cervera <cuteangel54321@...>

06/13/01 06:00 AM

Please respond to

cc:

Subject: Re: Fw: " Vitamin B12 by mouth as

good as injection "

so this hydroxy stuff does the same thing as high

doses of b12 injections? is this at the health store?

--- canderson@... wrote:

> There is a need for B12 in the classic sense. But

> people also do very

> high dose B12 injections which act to detoxify the

> brain. It is believed

> you can't achieve this by any kind of b12 pills.

> For this people take

> 5-10mg a day of hydroxycobalimin. This is thought

> to reduce brain fog as

> well as prevent permanent damage.

>

> Cindi

>

>

>

>

>

> melillo3@...

> 06/12/01 09:28 PM

> Please respond to

>

>

>

> cc:

> Subject: Re: Fw:

> " Vitamin B12 by mouth as good as injection "

>

>

> > how much b12 is safe and is it ok to try it if

> your

> > not sure if you are lacking b12 or are most of us

> > lacking b12 with cfs?

> >

>

> Hi ,

> Most CFSers have low B12, I think you just try it

> and see if you

> feel better. I use a sublingual B12-2500 mcg.

> Al