Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure if this list is for pre HM or after. All my favorite foods are on the no no list!!! Just wondering if anyone at all can eat: chicken (I used to eat chicken nearly every night) pizza (the food I am craving to try the most) pasta (love my lasagna and mac and cheese) tomato anything oranges/juice (and pineapple) milkshakes cold stuff (frozen daquiri/ice cream/smoothies) Am I only dreaming of ever having any of these things again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hi I think it differs for everyone what they can and can't eat. for example there are some on here who swear by carbonated drinks but for me they are a real no no - I am much better with something warm like peppermint tea! I would say try a little and see how it is for you. You will probably find there is also inconsistency with some days being better or worse than others. So have courage, take it slowley and see how it goes. Good luck, love Kay UK > > I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure if this list is for pre HM or after. > > All my favorite foods are on the no no list!!! > > Just wondering if anyone at all can eat: > > chicken (I used to eat chicken nearly every night) > pizza (the food I am craving to try the most) > pasta (love my lasagna and mac and cheese) > tomato anything > oranges/juice (and pineapple) > milkshakes > cold stuff (frozen daquiri/ice cream/smoothies) > > Am I only dreaming of ever having any of these things again! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hi , I'm so sorry you're still struggling! I'm sure things will get better. Experiment slowly and find the things that work for you - surely you'll find some of your favorites will make their way " down " ! Kim ________________________________ From: lindsaykite <lindsaykite@...> achalasia Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:46 AM Subject: Foods not to eat? Â I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure if this list is for pre HM or after. All my favorite foods are on the no no list!!! Just wondering if anyone at all can eat: chicken (I used to eat chicken nearly every night) pizza (the food I am craving to try the most) pasta (love my lasagna and mac and cheese) tomato anything oranges/juice (and pineapple) milkshakes cold stuff (frozen daquiri/ice cream/smoothies) Am I only dreaming of ever having any of these things again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 wrote: > > I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure > if this list is for pre HM or after. > I look at the list as a list of possible problem foods for those that are having problems, either before or after. Some people after treatment, surgery or otherwise, can still have or eventually develop problems again. Surgery is not a cure, just a treatment to make things " better " . How much better you will be can not be perfectly predicted but statistics for groups of people are pretty good. If you do have problems which food will be a problem are also hard to predict. You could have have trouble with some on the list and not others. We are all different in what give us trouble and how much. notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 This is what I'm struggling with - I have good and bad days (pre HM) - thankfully for the last few weeks mostly good. The bad stretches are horrible though. But...if post HM results are questionable, is it really worth going through the surgery and all that entails? Â Granted, during the bad times I would say absolutely, but overall, I have to wonder? Any comments are appreciated - I'm trying to decide on surgery for early next year. Thanks! Kim ________________________________ From: notan ostrich <notan_ostrich@...> achalasia Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Foods not to eat? Â wrote: > > I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure > if this list is for pre HM or after. > I look at the list as a list of possible problem foods for those that are having problems, either before or after. Some people after treatment, surgery or otherwise, can still have or eventually develop problems again. Surgery is not a cure, just a treatment to make things " better " . How much better you will be can not be perfectly predicted but statistics for groups of people are pretty good. If you do have problems which food will be a problem are also hard to predict. You could have have trouble with some on the list and not others. We are all different in what give us trouble and how much. notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Try eating just the toppings off the pizza. I have always done that and I ate some the other nite was no prob chew chew chew. Eat slow. Drink lot Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I can eat everything on that list! We are all different and trial and error is the only way to tell. in Santa Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hi I wouldnt get too worried as we are all different and as you will read many foods effect us all differently. In my case I can eat all the foods mentioned and have no problems at all, in fact I cant think of any foods that do give me problems. I had my HM with fundo wrap 4 years ago and prior to that lost 3 stones but put it all back on again now. Andy England On 13 Dec 2011 10:46, " lindsaykite " <lindsaykite@...> wrote: > ** > > > I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure if > this list is for pre HM or after. > > All my favorite foods are on the no no list!!! > > Just wondering if anyone at all can eat: > > chicken (I used to eat chicken nearly every night) > pizza (the food I am craving to try the most) > pasta (love my lasagna and mac and cheese) > tomato anything > oranges/juice (and pineapple) > milkshakes > cold stuff (frozen daquiri/ice cream/smoothies) > > Am I only dreaming of ever having any of these things again! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hi Kim! About questionable, lol! " Normal esophageal motility and LES function cannot be restored. Therefore, treatment is directed at decreasing the LES pressure or disrupting the muscle fibers of the LES to allow passage of ingested material. Although several therapies of varying efficacy are available, laparoscopic surgical myotomy provides the most durable long-term results with success rates between 90% and 95% for dysphagia in large studies. The use of minimally invasive techniques over the last decade has reduced the morbidity of esophageal myotomy, making it the treatment of choice for most patients. " http://www.nature.com/gimo/contents/pt1/full/gimo53.html Now, having just filled out a PRE-op questionnaire yesterday, I realize that the medical community actually has VERY little idea what it's like to *live* with this condition, but even recognizing that, I'd have to say them's still damn good odds. . . . Here's an example of what happens to an esophagus which *wasn't* operated on (e.g. -- other treatments. . . . ACK) http://www.nature.com/gimo/contents/pt1/fig_tab/gimo53_F1.html It's NOT going to get better on it's own, and my experience is that after each " good " plateau, it gets much worse. Until you're in ER, wondering if you'll starve to death before they actually admit you. . . . Still, it seems to be a hard decision. I think the more research one does, the easier it gets, all else being equal. HugZ! > > > > I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure > > if this list is for pre HM or after. > > > > I look at the list as a list of possible problem foods for those that > are having problems, either before or after. Some people after > treatment, surgery or otherwise, can still have or eventually develop > problems again. Surgery is not a cure, just a treatment to make things > " better " . How much better you will be can not be perfectly predicted but > statistics for groups of people are pretty good. If you do have problems > which food will be a problem are also hard to predict. You could have > have trouble with some on the list and not others. We are all different > in what give us trouble and how much. > > notan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Thanks - that helps put it in perspective. Â Guess I'll plan for next year.... :-| Kim ________________________________ From: puddleriver13 <puddleriver13@...> achalasia Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Foods not to eat? Â Hi Kim! About questionable, lol! " Normal esophageal motility and LES function cannot be restored. Therefore, treatment is directed at decreasing the LES pressure or disrupting the muscle fibers of the LES to allow passage of ingested material. Although several therapies of varying efficacy are available, laparoscopic surgical myotomy provides the most durable long-term results with success rates between 90% and 95% for dysphagia in large studies. The use of minimally invasive techniques over the last decade has reduced the morbidity of esophageal myotomy, making it the treatment of choice for most patients. " http://www.nature.com/gimo/contents/pt1/full/gimo53.html Now, having just filled out a PRE-op questionnaire yesterday, I realize that the medical community actually has VERY little idea what it's like to *live* with this condition, but even recognizing that, I'd have to say them's still damn good odds. . . . Here's an example of what happens to an esophagus which *wasn't* operated on (e.g. -- other treatments. . . . ACK) http://www.nature.com/gimo/contents/pt1/fig_tab/gimo53_F1.html It's NOT going to get better on it's own, and my experience is that after each " good " plateau, it gets much worse. Until you're in ER, wondering if you'll starve to death before they actually admit you. . . . Still, it seems to be a hard decision. I think the more research one does, the easier it gets, all else being equal. HugZ! > > > > I was just looking at the database list of foods here and am not sure > > if this list is for pre HM or after. > > > > I look at the list as a list of possible problem foods for those that > are having problems, either before or after. Some people after > treatment, surgery or otherwise, can still have or eventually develop > problems again. Surgery is not a cure, just a treatment to make things > " better " . How much better you will be can not be perfectly predicted but > statistics for groups of people are pretty good. If you do have problems > which food will be a problem are also hard to predict. You could have > have trouble with some on the list and not others. We are all different > in what give us trouble and how much. > > notan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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