Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested (stool, saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina or had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they suggest testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with such tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, tests cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas in order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. or personal experiences from anyone. Thanks Judy B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 > Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested (stool, > saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina or > had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? > The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in > Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they suggest > testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of > it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with such > tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, tests > cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas in > order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. or > personal experiences from anyone. > Thanks > Judy B. Judy, The short answer is yes, they do have tests that can be useful. The question is do they have people in Israel who know what to do with the information furnished by the tests? One person on this board (I think) got good results from an amino acid screening test. That one is pretty simple, find out what you are deficient in, then take supplements. If you have GI problems, they pioneered the Complete Digestive Stool Analysis, which give a lot of detail about what in your digestive system is working and what isn't. This is a case where you need some local expertise to tell you what to do. They also have a number of other tests which may be helpful, the big exception being their parasite lab. They made their name as a specialty parisitic test lab, but the original owners sold out to new people and the parisitology dept. is no longer that good. If it was me, I'd find out what doctors, nutritionists or whoever they are working with and interview them closely. If I found somebody who sounds like they know what they are talking about, it might be worth investing the money. Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Hi, This lab found my intestinal parasitical infection when Mayo wrote me off as crazy! I was wasting by time alert doc sent specimins to this lab. Fortunately insurance covered at that time - with all the cutbacks now, I don't know. Since lab in in Israel will your insurance cover this? Have net friend in Israel who lived here in US for a while and couldn't wait to get home to decent health insurance! take care, Christie At 10:44 PM 6/5/00 +0200, you wrote: >Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested (stool, >saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina or >had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? >The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in >Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they suggest >testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of >it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with such >tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, tests >cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas in >order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. or >personal experiences from anyone. >Thanks >Judy B. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Tired of writing checks? >Send money through email! >Sign up for PayPal today. >1/5027/4/_/531724/_/960234452/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2000 Report Share Posted June 6, 2000 thanks christie, I dont think my Israeli insurance will cover the tests and I will have to pay privately. Glad to hear the lab is legit. and I will turn to them for the tests. Let's hope for the best. After they discovered the parasites, how did they treat you? Did it help your recovery? How do you stand now with CFS? Take care Judy Re: great Smokies Labs > Hi, > > This lab found my intestinal parasitical infection when Mayo wrote me off as > crazy! I was wasting by time alert doc sent specimins to this lab. > Fortunately insurance covered at that time - with all the cutbacks now, I > don't know. Since lab in in Israel will your insurance cover this? Have > net friend in Israel who lived here in US for a while and couldn't wait to > get home to decent health insurance! > > take care, > Christie > > > > > > > At 10:44 PM 6/5/00 +0200, you wrote: > >Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested (stool, > >saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina or > >had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? > >The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in > >Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they suggest > >testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of > >it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with such > >tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, tests > >cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas in > >order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. or > >personal experiences from anyone. > >Thanks > >Judy B. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Tired of writing checks? > >Send money through email! > >Sign up for PayPal today. > >1/5027/4/_/531724/_/960234452/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. > Remember the good 'ol days > 1/4053/4/_/531724/_/960252993/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2000 Report Share Posted June 6, 2000 thanks luke and especially about the parasites which is the one things which I think will be important. They dont have the blood tests here yet and will only start doing them in a month or so, as for the amino acid tests. All the rests are sent to the USA by overnight plane/mail. Thanks, Judy Re: great Smokies Labs > > > Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested > (stool, > > saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North > Carolina or > > had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for > diagnosis? > > The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center > here in > > Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they > suggest > > testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were > thinking of > > it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or > with such > > tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are > exorbitant, tests > > cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping > overseas in > > order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any > info. or > > personal experiences from anyone. > > Thanks > > Judy B. > > Judy, > > The short answer is yes, they do have tests that can be useful. The > question is do they have people in Israel who know what to do with > the information furnished by the tests? One person on this board (I > think) got good results from an amino acid screening test. That one > is pretty simple, find out what you are deficient in, then take > supplements. > > If you have GI problems, they pioneered the Complete Digestive Stool > Analysis, which give a lot of detail about what in your digestive > system is working and what isn't. This is a case where you need some > local expertise to tell you what to do. > > They also have a number of other tests which may be helpful, the big > exception being their parasite lab. They made their name as a > specialty parisitic test lab, but the original owners sold out to new > people and the parisitology dept. is no longer that good. > > If it was me, I'd find out what doctors, nutritionists or whoever > they are working with and interview them closely. If I found > somebody who sounds like they know what they are talking about, it > might be worth investing the money. > > Luke > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. > Remember the good 'ol days > 1/4053/4/_/531724/_/960252234/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2000 Report Share Posted June 6, 2000 Hi, Although I had had other strange things happen to me as retinal infarct, elevated ANA and EB titers, I felt fine until this infection, which I got through infected scope in hospital proceedure. It took 7 monthes for doctor to believe me and the flagyl and keftabs did work. However, within few monthes I started to ache in morning, then needed more sleep and one day I crashed - just could not stay awake! And although I did as much as I knew to stay healthy, I haven't and I think this infection was the downfall point that pushed me into chronic illness. I have been dxed with lupus, lyme disease, and have involvement of major organs. Lastest in suspected mitochrondrical disorder. So I would have to say I have CFS PLUS!, and wish there were more answers than questions. And answers are necessary as so many are ill and don't really know why. I am waiting to be scheduled for a muscle biospy which may provide answers I hope! Is CFIDS a dx used in Israel? If so, are there doctors who treat these unusual conditions? Take care, Christie At 10:13 AM 6/6/00 +0200, you wrote: >thanks christie, >I dont think my Israeli insurance will cover the tests and I will have to >pay privately. Glad to hear the lab is legit. and I will turn to them for >the tests. Let's hope for the best. After they discovered the parasites, how >did they treat you? Did it help your recovery? How do you stand now with >CFS? >Take care >Judy > Re: great Smokies Labs > > >> Hi, >> >> This lab found my intestinal parasitical infection when Mayo wrote me off >as >> crazy! I was wasting by time alert doc sent specimins to this lab. >> Fortunately insurance covered at that time - with all the cutbacks now, I >> don't know. Since lab in in Israel will your insurance cover this? Have >> net friend in Israel who lived here in US for a while and couldn't wait to >> get home to decent health insurance! >> >> take care, >> Christie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 10:44 PM 6/5/00 +0200, you wrote: >> >Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested >(stool, >> >saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina >or >> >had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? >> >The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in >> >Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they >suggest >> >testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of >> >it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with >such >> >tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, >tests >> >cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas >in >> >order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. >or >> >personal experiences from anyone. >> >Thanks >> >Judy B. >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >Tired of writing checks? >> >Send money through email! >> >Sign up for PayPal today. >> >1/5027/4/_/531724/_/960234452/ >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with >each >> other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment >> discussed here, please consult your doctor. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. >> Remember the good 'ol days >> 1/4053/4/_/531724/_/960252993/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each >other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment >discussed here, please consult your doctor. >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Old school buds here: >1/4057/4/_/531724/_/960275782/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Judy I have used them a number of time with two different physicians and have always been pleased. My understanding is that they are one of the best functional labs out there. Phil judy wrote: > Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested (stool, > saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina or > had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? > The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in > Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they suggest > testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of > it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with such > tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, tests > cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas in > order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. or > personal experiences from anyone. > Thanks > Judy B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tired of writing checks? > Send money through email! > Sign up for PayPal today. > 1/5027/4/_/531724/_/960234452/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2000 Report Share Posted June 11, 2000 thanks Phil, I intend to use their metabolic tests and possibly one or two others. Hope that my doctors will know what to do with the results! Judy Re: great Smokies Labs > Judy > > I have used them a number of time with two different physicians and have always been pleased. My understanding is that they are one of the best functional labs out there. > > Phil > > judy wrote: > > > Hi everybody, another question for everyone. Has anyone been tested (stool, > > saliva, urine, hair analysis) by the Great Smokies Lab in North Carolina or > > had total biological analysis of any of the above anywhere for diagnosis? > > The reason I am asking is that they have just opened up a center here in > > Jerusalem connected with that lab, representatives of it, and they suggest > > testing for CFS like symptoms. Lots of us here in Israel were thinking of > > it, I was trying to find out if anyone has experience with them or with such > > tests and if they are worth anything. The prices here are exorbitant, tests > > cost between 90 to 900(!) dollars including overnight shipping overseas in > > order to text in the USA. In any event, I would be grateful for any info. or > > personal experiences from anyone. > > Thanks > > Judy B. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Tired of writing checks? > > Send money through email! > > Sign up for PayPal today. > > 1/5027/4/_/531724/_/960234452/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never lose a file again. Protect yourself from accidental deletes, > overwrites, and viruses with @Backup. > Try @Backup it's easy, it's safe, and it's FREE! > Click here to receive 300 MyPoints just for trying @Backup. > 1/4936/4/_/531724/_/960755152/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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