Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Deanna, First of all, I had a lateral release and it did nothing for me. It did cause me a long rehab. That is not to say that all lateral releases are wrong. It is not a simple procedure in that the rehab is a bit long results are questionable. I agree. Get a couple of descisions. Don On 12/21/06, D. A. <redphys@...> wrote: > > Ann would you recommend the viscosupplementation or the lateral release? > Or neither since you've had both. > > Deanna > Ann <ruby2zdy@... <ruby2zdy%40earthlink.net>> wrote: > I had the shots about a month ago (the last one). I'd say it's helped > some. What helps the most is working up slowly doing exercises that > strengthen all the muscles you use to control your legs and knees (and > ankles), including the ones for balance. One exercise I love (although I > wouldn't want to be seen doing it) is to walk by lifting my legs (one at a > time, of course) straight up to about 90 degrees from the floor. This is > really good for the quads and balance -- and abs, while we're at it. I also > find that I can do ham strengthening by lying on the floor & putting my feet > (heels) on my bed & lifting my body. If I use the ham machines at the gym, > it really hurts my kneecaps, but for some reason, doing it lying down > doesn't. > > I always stretch after exercising, lying on the floor and using a > Theraband with a loop tied in the end, putting the loop around my foot so I > can raise my leg straight & pull it back toward my head, then change the > angle so the leg is pulled to the side of my head, and increasing the angle > outward a little more, holding for 20 sec. at each position. Do both legs, > then stretch out the hip joint muscles by putting ankle on opposite knee & > pulling toward your chest. Add pushing the knee away while pulling toward > the chest for more muscle stretching. And quad stretching, the usual way, > standing up. I've discovered tight scar tissue where the vastus lateralis > meets the kneecap, I think a result of my lateral release in 1995 (for some > barbaric reason, some surgeons cut the VL when they do a LR). I think this > is what pulls my kneecap out of alignment, and if I turn my torso to face > the direction opposite that leg while doing a quad stretch I can really feel > that scar pull. I hope > I'm stretching it. > > When cooking or otherwise standing around waiting for something, I do side > leg lifts. > > I can't emphasize too strongly working up slowly from a level you'd be > embarrassed to tell your friends about, adding time and resistance > s-l-o-w-l-y to allow your 'knee muscles' to develop & to get back in the > habit of supporting your movements. > > Ann > > Re: surgery > > Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com>> wrote: Tess, > > I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing > on > the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks > to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was > back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a > week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines > the recovery period. > > Don > > On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@... <tessperry%40>> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > > > Thank You, > > Tess > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I had a lateral release and two months later I was on stage dancing an jumping again. It you follow your PT exercise and go to a sports med, then you will be fine. Amber Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote: Deanna, First of all, I had a lateral release and it did nothing for me. It did cause me a long rehab. That is not to say that all lateral releases are wrong. It is not a simple procedure in that the rehab is a bit long results are questionable. I agree. Get a couple of descisions. Don On 12/21/06, D. A. <redphys@...> wrote: > > Ann would you recommend the viscosupplementation or the lateral release? > Or neither since you've had both. > > Deanna > Ann <ruby2zdy@... <ruby2zdy%40earthlink.net>> wrote: > I had the shots about a month ago (the last one). I'd say it's helped > some. What helps the most is working up slowly doing exercises that > strengthen all the muscles you use to control your legs and knees (and > ankles), including the ones for balance. One exercise I love (although I > wouldn't want to be seen doing it) is to walk by lifting my legs (one at a > time, of course) straight up to about 90 degrees from the floor. This is > really good for the quads and balance -- and abs, while we're at it. I also > find that I can do ham strengthening by lying on the floor & putting my feet > (heels) on my bed & lifting my body. If I use the ham machines at the gym, > it really hurts my kneecaps, but for some reason, doing it lying down > doesn't. > > I always stretch after exercising, lying on the floor and using a > Theraband with a loop tied in the end, putting the loop around my foot so I > can raise my leg straight & pull it back toward my head, then change the > angle so the leg is pulled to the side of my head, and increasing the angle > outward a little more, holding for 20 sec. at each position. Do both legs, > then stretch out the hip joint muscles by putting ankle on opposite knee & > pulling toward your chest. Add pushing the knee away while pulling toward > the chest for more muscle stretching. And quad stretching, the usual way, > standing up. I've discovered tight scar tissue where the vastus lateralis > meets the kneecap, I think a result of my lateral release in 1995 (for some > barbaric reason, some surgeons cut the VL when they do a LR). I think this > is what pulls my kneecap out of alignment, and if I turn my torso to face > the direction opposite that leg while doing a quad stretch I can really feel > that scar pull. I hope > I'm stretching it. > > When cooking or otherwise standing around waiting for something, I do side > leg lifts. > > I can't emphasize too strongly working up slowly from a level you'd be > embarrassed to tell your friends about, adding time and resistance > s-l-o-w-l-y to allow your 'knee muscles' to develop & to get back in the > habit of supporting your movements. > > Ann > > Re: surgery > > Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com>> wrote: Tess, > > I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing > on > the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks > to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was > back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a > week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines > the recovery period. > > Don > > On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@... <tessperry%40>> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > > > Thank You, > > Tess > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 That does bring up a good point. I did not have any formal PT after my lateral release. About 4 months later, I did goto formal PT, but it still was not fine. Any surgery has risks. Do not take a lateral release lightly. You might also check out the kneeguru site. Don On 12/21/06, amber levalley <al_19_1999@...> wrote: > > I had a lateral release and two months later I was on stage dancing an > jumping again. It you follow your PT exercise and go to a sports med, then > you will be fine. > > Amber > > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Deanna, > > First of all, I had a lateral release and it did nothing for me. It did > cause me a long rehab. That is not to say that all lateral releases are > wrong. It is not a simple procedure in that the rehab is a bit long > results > are questionable. > > I agree. Get a couple of descisions. > > Don > > On 12/21/06, D. A. <redphys@... <redphys%40>> wrote: > > > > Ann would you recommend the viscosupplementation or the lateral release? > > Or neither since you've had both. > > > > Deanna > > Ann <ruby2zdy@... <ruby2zdy%40earthlink.net><ruby2zdy%40earthli > nk.net>> wrote: > > I had the shots about a month ago (the last one). I'd say it's helped > > some. What helps the most is working up slowly doing exercises that > > strengthen all the muscles you use to control your legs and knees (and > > ankles), including the ones for balance. One exercise I love (although I > > wouldn't want to be seen doing it) is to walk by lifting my legs (one at > a > > time, of course) straight up to about 90 degrees from the floor. This is > > really good for the quads and balance -- and abs, while we're at it. I > also > > find that I can do ham strengthening by lying on the floor & putting my > feet > > (heels) on my bed & lifting my body. If I use the ham machines at the > gym, > > it really hurts my kneecaps, but for some reason, doing it lying down > > doesn't. > > > > I always stretch after exercising, lying on the floor and using a > > Theraband with a loop tied in the end, putting the loop around my foot > so I > > can raise my leg straight & pull it back toward my head, then change the > > angle so the leg is pulled to the side of my head, and increasing the > angle > > outward a little more, holding for 20 sec. at each position. Do both > legs, > > then stretch out the hip joint muscles by putting ankle on opposite knee > & > > pulling toward your chest. Add pushing the knee away while pulling > toward > > the chest for more muscle stretching. And quad stretching, the usual > way, > > standing up. I've discovered tight scar tissue where the vastus > lateralis > > meets the kneecap, I think a result of my lateral release in 1995 (for > some > > barbaric reason, some surgeons cut the VL when they do a LR). I think > this > > is what pulls my kneecap out of alignment, and if I turn my torso to > face > > the direction opposite that leg while doing a quad stretch I can really > feel > > that scar pull. I hope > > I'm stretching it. > > > > When cooking or otherwise standing around waiting for something, I do > side > > leg lifts. > > > > I can't emphasize too strongly working up slowly from a level you'd be > > embarrassed to tell your friends about, adding time and resistance > > s-l-o-w-l-y to allow your 'knee muscles' to develop & to get back in the > > habit of supporting your movements. > > > > Ann > > > > Re: surgery > > > > Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? > > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com> <panteradon% > 40gmail.com>> wrote: Tess, > > > > I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are > doing > > on > > the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several > weeks > > to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was > > back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a > > week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that > determines > > the recovery period. > > > > Don > > > > On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@... <tessperry%40><tessperry%40>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > > > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > > > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > > > > > Thank You, > > > Tess > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 It took me a year to recover from my lateral release, but it totally stopped the pain for 5 years. Then I got that adhesion. Ann Re: surgery > > Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com>> wrote: Tess, > > I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing > on > the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks > to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was > back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a > week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines > the recovery period. > > Don > > On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@... <tessperry%40>> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > > > Thank You, > > Tess > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I missed over a week of work from my lateral release and had to leave work early 3 days a week for 8 week for pt and all I got out of it was a quieter knee. I think you should try all other means before deciding any type of surgery. Best of luck, Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote: That does bring up a good point. I did not have any formal PT after my lateral release. About 4 months later, I did goto formal PT, but it still was not fine. Any surgery has risks. Do not take a lateral release lightly. You might also check out the kneeguru site. Don On 12/21/06, amber levalley <al_19_1999@...> wrote: > > I had a lateral release and two months later I was on stage dancing an > jumping again. It you follow your PT exercise and go to a sports med, then > you will be fine. > > Amber > > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Deanna, > > First of all, I had a lateral release and it did nothing for me. It did > cause me a long rehab. That is not to say that all lateral releases are > wrong. It is not a simple procedure in that the rehab is a bit long > results > are questionable. > > I agree. Get a couple of descisions. > > Don > > On 12/21/06, D. A. <redphys@... <redphys%40>> wrote: > > > > Ann would you recommend the viscosupplementation or the lateral release? > > Or neither since you've had both. > > > > Deanna > > Ann <ruby2zdy@... <ruby2zdy%40earthlink.net><ruby2zdy%40earthli > nk.net>> wrote: > > I had the shots about a month ago (the last one). I'd say it's helped > > some. What helps the most is working up slowly doing exercises that > > strengthen all the muscles you use to control your legs and knees (and > > ankles), including the ones for balance. One exercise I love (although I > > wouldn't want to be seen doing it) is to walk by lifting my legs (one at > a > > time, of course) straight up to about 90 degrees from the floor. This is > > really good for the quads and balance -- and abs, while we're at it. I > also > > find that I can do ham strengthening by lying on the floor & putting my > feet > > (heels) on my bed & lifting my body. If I use the ham machines at the > gym, > > it really hurts my kneecaps, but for some reason, doing it lying down > > doesn't. > > > > I always stretch after exercising, lying on the floor and using a > > Theraband with a loop tied in the end, putting the loop around my foot > so I > > can raise my leg straight & pull it back toward my head, then change the > > angle so the leg is pulled to the side of my head, and increasing the > angle > > outward a little more, holding for 20 sec. at each position. Do both > legs, > > then stretch out the hip joint muscles by putting ankle on opposite knee > & > > pulling toward your chest. Add pushing the knee away while pulling > toward > > the chest for more muscle stretching. And quad stretching, the usual > way, > > standing up. I've discovered tight scar tissue where the vastus > lateralis > > meets the kneecap, I think a result of my lateral release in 1995 (for > some > > barbaric reason, some surgeons cut the VL when they do a LR). I think > this > > is what pulls my kneecap out of alignment, and if I turn my torso to > face > > the direction opposite that leg while doing a quad stretch I can really > feel > > that scar pull. I hope > > I'm stretching it. > > > > When cooking or otherwise standing around waiting for something, I do > side > > leg lifts. > > > > I can't emphasize too strongly working up slowly from a level you'd be > > embarrassed to tell your friends about, adding time and resistance > > s-l-o-w-l-y to allow your 'knee muscles' to develop & to get back in the > > habit of supporting your movements. > > > > Ann > > > > Re: surgery > > > > Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? > > Don Franck <panteradon@... <panteradon%40gmail.com> <panteradon% > 40gmail.com>> wrote: Tess, > > > > I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are > doing > > on > > the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several > weeks > > to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was > > back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a > > week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that > determines > > the recovery period. > > > > Don > > > > On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@... <tessperry%40><tessperry%40>> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > > > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > > > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > > > > > Thank You, > > > Tess > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've had PT for six weeks and my knees were feeling better. Then I went to Florida and I thought the warm weather would help but it didn't my knees is hurting worst then ever. I really don't want to try the injections cause I've had the injections in my back before and only helped my back for about eight weeks. So what am I supposed to do? I can't take PT for the rest of my life cause I have a very hard job and I can't afford to take off work. Please give me some advice thanks Tess > > > > > > Hi > > > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > > > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > > > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > > > > > Thank You, > > > Tess > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I had PT for about 2 months. I am also trying to exercise at home to strength my upper muscles. However I can't do these exercises periodically since it hurts my knees. there are two things I do, putting a towel under my knee while I was sitting on the floor and strech thight my leg. the other thing is lying on the floor and raising my leg as high as possible while streching it. But hese two exercises really hurts my knees sºnce they feel pressure. These are given by the PTst by the way. I am not sure if I continiue doing them. Besides, I think I'm going to try the exercises you explained below. Irem Re: surgery Has anyone had viscosupplementatio n and how were the results? Don Franck <panteradongmail (DOT) com> wrote: Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry (DOT) com> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement. ... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.. .. > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Different things work for different people. I wish you luck. After years of experimentation, I found ways to exercise & improved some. In fact, I was on the verge of getting a whole new knee when I discovered that if I just worked up very slowly to using my knees, I was able to build up the muscles & take the pressure off the kneecap. Good luck. Ann Re: surgery Has anyone had viscosupplementatio n and how were the results? Don Franck <panteradongmail (DOT) com> wrote: Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry (DOT) com> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement. ... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.. .. > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi, I am shocked to hear that you would walk on a treadmill!!! That is THE most painful thing for me. But walking on regular ground there is absolutely no pain. In fact it helps the pain by getting the blood circulating. > I have been walking on my teadmill, 1.5 miles a day, very slowly and last night had a terrible night with the pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I bought a nordic trac that has " flex step cushioning " and I have to keep it on an incline of 2. I am unable to walk on it 0 incline and I walked at the park the other day with my husband, only a mile, and I think that is what has caused my setback. As you see I am up and online at 3:25 am praying to the Aleve gods!! Happy Holidays!!!!!!! hedy_dilmanian <heds401@...> wrote: Hi, I am shocked to hear that you would walk on a treadmill!!! That is THE most painful thing for me. But walking on regular ground there is absolutely no pain. In fact it helps the pain by getting the blood circulating. > I have been walking on my teadmill, 1.5 miles a day, very slowly and last night had a terrible night with the pain. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Hi, Perhaps you are wearing bad sneakers? My sneakers have a 2 " platform, it's great. When I wear flat sneakers, my ankles kill me. -Hedy > > > I have been walking on my teadmill, 1.5 miles a day, very slowly and > last night had a terrible night with the pain. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 I actually have tried new balance, saucony, avia, and addidas shoes. I am currently wearing addidas running shoes with coils (I think that is what addidas calls them) and they seem to minimize my knee pain. What brand shoes are you currently wearing? hedy_dilmanian <heds401@...> wrote: Hi, Perhaps you are wearing bad sneakers? My sneakers have a 2 " platform, it's great. When I wear flat sneakers, my ankles kill me. -Hedy > > > I have been walking on my teadmill, 1.5 miles a day, very slowly and > last night had a terrible night with the pain. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 lol... I hear you! What size is the bowl they use? Do you know? I know that our stomache shrinks on its own with the less food we take. Our body adjusts... so the surgery is just forcing it. But the bad thing about the surgery from what I have heard is that if you accidentally overeat you end up getting really sick. Shirleyderfsvic <derfsvic@...> wrote: I have noticed several people mention the surgery. Here is the thing I think about surgery - I know someone who had it, they give them these little bowls and tell them they can only eat what fits into the little bowl so many times a day. Well that is a lifestyle change and if you can only eat what fits into the little bowl, I say give me the little bowls without the pain of the surgery. I know for me volume control is a big issue, because I could just eat and eat and eat and then even when the tummy says enough I can still eat some more. It is just I do notsee surgery as a magic cure, there is still a lot of emotional work to be done, of course I am wayyyy tooooo big of a chicken, I would never volunteer for a surgery ........geez I need to get my colostomy reversed and you won't see me racing to that one ! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I think the bowls are 1.5 cups......they are really small. --- Shirley Cleaver <shiri.mama@...> wrote: > lol... I hear you! What size is the bowl they use? > Do you know? I know that our stomache shrinks on > its own with the less food we take. Our body > adjusts... so the surgery is just forcing it. But > the bad thing about the surgery from what I have > heard is that if you accidentally overeat you end up > getting really sick. > Shirley > > derfsvic <derfsvic@...> wrote: > I have noticed several people mention the > surgery. Here is the thing I > think about surgery - I know someone who had it, > they give them these > little bowls and tell them they can only eat what > fits into the little > bowl so many times a day. Well that is a lifestyle > change and if you > can only eat what fits into the little bowl, I say > give me the little > bowls without the pain of the surgery. I know for me > volume control is > a big issue, because I could just eat and eat and > eat and then even > when the tummy says enough I can still eat some > more. > > It is just I do notsee surgery as a magic cure, > there is still a lot of > emotional work to be done, of course I am wayyyy > tooooo big of a > chicken, I would never volunteer for a surgery > ........geez I need to > get my colostomy reversed and you won't see me > racing to that one ! > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: " derfsvic " <derfsvic@...> > I say give me the little bowls without the pain of the surgery. Ok. Why are you fat then? If we could eat only a small amount of food we wouldn't be fat. Surgery is a tool that makes eating small amounts of food possible. Without surgery it was impossible for me to do so. I was anti-surgery for years until 2005 when I realized that I had been trying to lose weight and keep it off for 23 years with no long term success. I'd lose weight and gain it back over and over and over. I was highly motivated and active but I couldn't maintain significant weight loss. I had surgery on March 31, 2006 and I've lost 100 pounds. I started at 285 and I'm down to 185. I'm 5'2 " and I'd like to lose another 40 pounds. I've gone from size 24W pants to size 14 petite (I can wear 12P but they are still a little tight). Tops were 3X and are now XL. 2006 was a very exciting year. Now it's down to the hard work of eating heatlhy and exercising to get some more weight off. WLS is just a tool but a darn good tool for me. You newbies are probably wondering what the heck I'm doing on this list. I've been around for a long time. Just for fun I searched for my newbie intro. I joined back on Tue Sep 3, 2002 5:37 pm. Here's my intro: Hi Losers, I've been lurking for a couple of weeks but I haven't taken the time to post yet. I've been back on track for 3 weeks and I've lost 9 pounds. I'm not on a formal program, just an everything in moderation approach. I'm 38 and I live in Houston with dh and two daughters 5 and 2. I've been overweight on and off for 20 years. Ugh. I really want to take care of this once and for all but I'm easily sidetracked by holidays, vacations, etc. I've joined WW over a dozen times but always quit and regained the weight. I want to join a 100+ group because I think we have different issues than slighty overweight people. We have to wrap our heads around losing weight over a year or more (and then keeping it off forever of course). I don't like being on lists where the women are sniveling about having to lose 10 pounds to fit in their size 3 pants. I've started this journey many, many times. I need to figure out how to make this time different from all the others. I've been walking an hour a day 4 or 5 times a week for the last two weeks. That sounds a bit extreme to start with but I have to take my daughter to kindergarten and it's a 15 min. walk each way. She rides her bike so I have to walk fast. It's great exercise but it's so darn hot in Houston. It's been quite an adjustment going from 2 day a week preschool to full day, every day kindergarten. I can't stay up late and read e-mail anymore. My 2 year old started mothers day out today so I'll have a few hours a week to myself. Today I sanded kitchen cabinet doors with a vengeance. Gotta run fix dinner for the kids and I. Dh is working late which means he can fend for himself. Ann 266/257/150 9 down, 107 to go. Wow. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. I'm now 43 and my kids are 10 and almost 7. The above mentioned kindergartener is now an old, jaded 4th grader and my 2 year old is now in 1st grade. I sooooo admire anyone who can lose 100 pounds and keep it off without surgery. I just couldn't do it. I stay on this list because the old timers are important to me and I still have the same old issues. I had surgery on my stomach but I still have PMS, emotions, stress and taste buds. I mostly lurk because I'm not " one of you " anymore. When I was anti-surgery it would irritate me when someone would post about losing a lot of weight with surgery. That's not the point of this list. I'll stick around though because I kind of like it here. Discussion of weight loss surgery is no longer forbidden here so I'll be happy to answer any questions for anyone considering it. It is a good option for some but it is just a tool, not magic. I'll have to work very hard to reach my goal weight and keep the weight off for the long term. Right now I wish all fat people could have surgery because being fat sucks! Don't take that the wrong way. I just feel very compassionate for fat people. It is a tough life. I've lost 100 pounds and I'm still grossly obese by society's standards. Screw society. Be as happy as you can at any size. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Being fat DOES suck, and I wish that all fat people could lose weight, too. But I kind of wish that weight loss surgery was HARDER to have. I have a cousin who was only in the mid-200's and gained over 40 pounds on the advice of her surgeon - getting up over 300 - so that her insurance would pay for her surgery. That's just wrong. I also read on another forum that you only have to be at a BMI of 35 of higher to have the lap band procedure, which is still a surgery and has many risks, although not as permanently altering as the bypass. A BMI of 35 is only 205 pounds for a woman who is 5' 4 " . Whack me if you want, but I think that is just wrong, too. That is not NEAR heavy enough to warrant surgical intervention for weight loss. A woman 5' 4 " and barely over 200 pounds should get her butt on a diet and start exercisign while she is still just 60 pounds overweight - NOT turn to surgery. Anyway, I rant. I think surgery is a good option for someone who truly is at risk of death from their obesity and just can't lose weight ANY other way, but I think it should be a final option and as such, much harder to get. >Right now I wish all fat people could have > surgery because being fat sucks! Don't take that the wrong way. I just > feel very compassionate for fat people. It is a tough life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I think that surgery is a viable option for some, but I had concerns about it for myself. There were two objections that helped me make my decision. First, I knew a woman who had it years ago. She lost a ton of weight, like I would on any 'diet', but then when she reached her goal, she started to gain wait again. Today, she still can't eat more than a few mouthfuls, yet her weight is almost back where it was. I'm not sure what happened, but my guess would be that the calorie deprivation slowed down her metabolism to the point where she can eat like a bird and still gain weight. What a shame. My second concern arose after seeing Carnie on the Oprah show. She too has gained back about a third of the weight following the 'honeymoon' period and had to 'diet' to lose again. But that was not the thing that struck me the most and changed my mind completely. Carnie said that the desire to eat still remains, she just physically can't eat the things she wants to and it drives her crazy every day. She still salivates in the grocery aisle and watches people eat. I can't even imagine what that would be like, but it's not for me. I need to find out why I overeat and remove the obsession, so that I can truly be free of the power that food has over me. Only then can I look a coconut cream pie in the face and just laugh an evil laugh. That's my goal, and I'm part way there today, but I know that this too shall pass if I don't do some daily mental work as part of my plan. I think that a lot of the doctor's believe in the '21 days to make new habits' theory, which may work for some things, but hasn't worked for me when it comes to eating. I went for 4 years once and then one day I saw the chip wagon at a flea market (you know the one with the homemade french fries). I gave in to 'one small container' and before I knew it, it was all over but the eating. Fours years were down the drain in a mouthful and I gained back all of the weight and 10 more. This time around I'm trying to get the fat out of my brain LOL and let the hips just go along for the ride... Judy __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Good job on your weight loss!!! Even with the surgery helping I think it would still be hard. Tammy H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 In a message dated 1/7/2007 9:05:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, maryannanderic@... writes: I had surgery on March 31, 2006 and I've lost 100 pounds. I started at 285 and I'm down to 185. I'm 5'2" and I'd like to lose another 40 pounds. That is pretty good Ann (no, it's GREAT!) - hey, have you posted any new pix in the folder? Wow. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. Yes ma'am - you have come a long way (not to mention your babies growing up LOL) I had surgery on my stomach but I still have PMS, emotions, stress and taste buds. I mostly lurk because I'm not "one of you" anymore....That's not the point of this list. I'll stick around though because I kind of like it here. Discussion of weight loss surgery is no longer forbidden here so I'll be happy to answer any questions for anyone considering it. It is a good option for some but it is just a tool, not magic. I'll have to work very hard to reach my goal weight and keep the weight off for the long term. Well said. I am glad you stay a part of this group too because of all those reasons. We're all in the same "fight" so may as well pull each other along for support. Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 ----- Original Message ----- From: <ABrite@...> > Well said. I am glad you stay a part of this group too because of all > those > reasons. We're all in the same " fight " so may as well pull each other > along > for support. Thanks! We'll always have the same demons to overcome. What is the draw of Cheetoes? Who invented those nasty things anyways and why are they addictive? I'm back home from Dallas so tonight I'm going to throw some fish on the Foreman grill! I'll nuke some frozen veggies and make a pot of rice for dh and my 6 year old. We'll have a nice, healthy, easy family dinner. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 well i had the myotomy on thursday morning. I am home--got home yesterday, did a barium swallow to confirm i was not leaking... just ate some yummy butternut squash soup for lunch. NO SPIT cups !! WAHOO!! i am drinking and drinking and drinking. i am on soft food for 2 weeks and i do not have a problem with that. i feel good except my tummy looks fat from the co2.. sore but feel great. Got all dressed up with my LSU gear on (game night) am going to ride on golf cart while DH golfs this pm.. wahoo!! now i just have to not let Piggy Sister come back and eat everything that she wants and gain weight!! My surgeon was great, just took 45 minutes and i am a new woman.. thanks my friends for the encouragement and HAPPY Birthday to Mr Ray!!! You GO BOY!!! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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