Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Yup.......most often you'll sign a form that gives them a reasonable " carte blanche " to do whatever they feel is necessary. It's how I ended up with a microfracture surgery instead of just a trimming/repair of the meniscus. It was my fault for not being a more informed patient at the time. I suggest you discuss the possibilities of other things, like a lateral release. You CAN opt not to have anything else done... marianne Re: Surgery They can do that without letting you know? > > It wouldn't surprise me if they are also planning a lateral release but may not have told you yet. > > Mike > MT > > Re: Surgery > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed cartiledge, > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection into > my heel at the same time... > > That's all I know for now... > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I knew a woman who went in for some kind of surgery & woke up to find out they decided to remove her ovaries. Ann Re: Surgery > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed cartiledge, > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection into > my heel at the same time... > > That's all I know for now... > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Whenever I have an operation I read that form closely, and cross out anything I don't agree to. I mentioned this once to the nurse who had given me the form and she said " that's fine " . Ann Re: Surgery > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed cartiledge, > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection into > my heel at the same time... > > That's all I know for now... > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Here's another thing: You should always tell your OS that you want HIM to be doing the surgery. This is especially important in teaching hospitals. Otherwise, your knee or whatever may be turned over to a resident. Your OS should be there directing, but how can you know he really is? Ann Re: Surgery > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed cartiledge, > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection into > my heel at the same time... > > That's all I know for now... > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Yeah, but some times you need to trust your surgeon to use his best judgement when he gets in there. It does seem like when they decide to go in, they generally do a LR as part of the proceedure. That just seems to be what I have gleaned from many people's posts. My surgeon seemed kind of candid on the subject. I specifically told him NOT to do a LR unless he was reasonably sure it would help. He did a LR, and I " think " it helped. Mike MT Re: Surgery > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed cartiledge, > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection into > my heel at the same time... > > That's all I know for now... > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 My surgeon also did a lateral release when I went in for a torn meniscus. I can't say it helped and my cartilage damage has gotten a LOT worse in the last year. Don On 9/6/06, Mike Bernhardt <mlbernhardt@...> wrote: > > Yeah, but some times you need to trust your surgeon to use his best > judgement when he gets in there. It does seem like when they decide to go > in, they generally do a LR as part of the proceedure. That just seems to be > what I have gleaned from many people's posts. My surgeon seemed kind of > candid on the subject. I specifically told him NOT to do a LR unless he was > reasonably sure it would help. He did a LR, and I " think " it helped. > > Mike > MT > > Re: Surgery > > > > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed > cartiledge, > > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection > into > > my heel at the same time... > > > > That's all I know for now... > > > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I had had an LR before (knew that was what I was getting), and when I began to have pain again years later, figure the scar had healed shut or something & asked for another one, but all OS's refused, said my kneecap wasn't maltracking. I guess it's just that when I use my quads, it puts pressure on the kneecap & femur & there's a little movement, maybe even in the trochlear groove, but it causes pain if there's too much of it. Ann Re: Surgery > > > I am having a patella shave done, to remove all the frayed cartiledge, > arthoscopic sugery. And they are giving me a cortison injection into > my heel at the same time... > > That's all I know for now... > > Anyone got any advice on this all? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Mike Bernhardt said the following on 9/6/2006 7:46 PM: > > > Yeah, but some times you need to trust your surgeon to use his best > judgement when he gets in there. It does seem like when they decide to > go in, they generally do a LR as part of the proceedure. That just seems > to be what I have gleaned from many people's posts. My surgeon seemed > kind of candid on the subject. I specifically told him NOT to do a LR > unless he was reasonably sure it would help. He did a LR, and I " think " > it helped. My Dr. wanted to do an LR, but I was explicit in stating not to do that. I wanted an exploratory with minor clean up of cartiladge as necessary, and that was it. An LR seemed pretty invasive to me without looking around and cleaning up 1st. He ended up taking out some plica, and he found a " partition " in the retinaculum that had tethered itself and he cleaned all that up. So it was a bit more than we had talked about explicitly, but I said if he found anything that was less than 3-4 months of recovery, to go for it, otherwise I wanted to wait. My point is that before surgery, you definitely need to be very clear about what you want the Dr. to do and/or not do! As an update on me, it's now been one year since surgery. I'm at the point where I can pretty much do everything I want (mountain bike, hike, elliptical) except I can't run much. The impact is still bothersome. I did push it to 30 minutes the other day, and was definitely sore afterwards. And I do get tender sometimes with the other activities, so I'm kind of playing the edge. I actually went to see a Dr. of Osteopathy yesterday that also does prolotherapy. She thinks a few prolo treatments -- basically injecting dextrose/water under the patella -- may help heal the cartiladge under there and allow me to run, but I was somewhat disappointed in that she didn't spend more time with me. I had heard Osteopaths would do a more thorough check than an Orthopedic Surgeon. :-/ I'm going to hold off on prolo for a few more months. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Can anyone tell me more about the actual surgery... preparation, while under anestetic, recovery process... etc? It's easier for me to prepare for this sugery hearing other peoples experiences.... Let me know peoples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 My experience w/osteopaths has not been good. I don't even know why they're included in the Yellow Pages under Physicians & Surgeons, MD. Ann Re: Re: Surgery Mike Bernhardt said the following on 9/6/2006 7:46 PM: > > > Yeah, but some times you need to trust your surgeon to use his best > judgement when he gets in there. It does seem like when they decide to > go in, they generally do a LR as part of the proceedure. That just seems > to be what I have gleaned from many people's posts. My surgeon seemed > kind of candid on the subject. I specifically told him NOT to do a LR > unless he was reasonably sure it would help. He did a LR, and I " think " > it helped. My Dr. wanted to do an LR, but I was explicit in stating not to do that. I wanted an exploratory with minor clean up of cartiladge as necessary, and that was it. An LR seemed pretty invasive to me without looking around and cleaning up 1st. He ended up taking out some plica, and he found a " partition " in the retinaculum that had tethered itself and he cleaned all that up. So it was a bit more than we had talked about explicitly, but I said if he found anything that was less than 3-4 months of recovery, to go for it, otherwise I wanted to wait. My point is that before surgery, you definitely need to be very clear about what you want the Dr. to do and/or not do! As an update on me, it's now been one year since surgery. I'm at the point where I can pretty much do everything I want (mountain bike, hike, elliptical) except I can't run much. The impact is still bothersome. I did push it to 30 minutes the other day, and was definitely sore afterwards. And I do get tender sometimes with the other activities, so I'm kind of playing the edge. I actually went to see a Dr. of Osteopathy yesterday that also does prolotherapy. She thinks a few prolo treatments -- basically injecting dextrose/water under the patella -- may help heal the cartiladge under there and allow me to run, but I was somewhat disappointed in that she didn't spend more time with me. I had heard Osteopaths would do a more thorough check than an Orthopedic Surgeon. :-/ I'm going to hold off on prolo for a few more months. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Do you mean scraping (debriding)? I didn't have any negative consequences from it, but no positive ones either. Ann Re: Surgery Can anyone tell me more about the actual surgery... preparation, while under anestetic, recovery process... etc? It's easier for me to prepare for this sugery hearing other peoples experiences.... Let me know peoples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 My experience w/ osteopaths has been very good... thorough exam, good results, etc. I guess, as with all docs, there are good ones and bad ones. Just a question of weeding through the bad ones until you uncover a good one. - Doug > > My experience w/osteopaths has not been good. I don't even know why they're included in the Yellow Pages under Physicians & Surgeons, MD. > > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Can anyone tell me about the whole surgery process they went through? I haven't had surgery on anything but my tonsils in my whole life and I don't really know what to expect... or anything about the recovery process and how long it will take for me to get better... like tell me your experiences please, I would appreciate the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hi , Different doctors have different protocols with regard to surgery and surgery aftercare. It's best to check with him/her to see what his procedures are. For me, I went in a couple of days early, they took blood (to screen for health and AIDs, etc) and I signed all the permission forms at that time. At this time my doctor also gave me the pain pill script so I could have it filled BEFORE surgery and not have to have anyone do that for me later. Then the day of the surgery I went in in the morning, the hospital staff took me to pre-op where they continually asked a gazillion questions proving both who I was, what I was having done, and whether or not I was in pain, etc etc .. In pre-op they hooked me up to a blood pressure/heart rate machine and started an IV. The doc stopped by for his pep talk and to " sign " my correct knee so that no mistake would be made as to what knee was being operated on. Then the anasthesiologist came in and discussed his procedure. I had chosen a spinal because I wanted to be aware of what was going on. He then gave me a relaxant and off I went to the operating room. There I got the spinal injection, and within minutes the surgery started. Didn't take long, I was awake and conversed with the doc the whole time. Saw the interior of my knee, which I thought was fascinating. It also showed me just how deteriorated my knee really is, and as much as that was a bummer, I was glad I saw it for myself, if you know what I mean. Afterwards they wheeled me to post-op where I stayed for two hours getting feeling back into my lower body. THey continued to monitor the machine and offered pain meds as needed and after I saw the doc again, I walked out of the hospital (well, hobbled). Never did use crutches, although we had them just in case. Once home, since I didn't have a general anasthesia, I felt pretty darn good, although I did maintain a pain med schedule for a few days. The knee fills " BIG " , and swelling is a side effect of arthroscopic surgery. The bandage was big too, but after a couple of days that came off. Hope this helps......... nne (I had a clean up and lateral release done) Re: Surgery Can anyone tell me about the whole surgery process they went through? I haven't had surgery on anything but my tonsils in my whole life and I don't really know what to expect... or anything about the recovery process and how long it will take for me to get better... like tell me your experiences please, I would appreciate the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 One suggestion, for your " permanent " IV, don't let them put the needle in the crook of your elbow. They did that to me when I was in the hosp. for one night after I fell off a ladder, and it hurt when I bent my arm when I was trying to go to sleep. It was the only thing I begged them to change, and I had to practically call the Pope to get it done. Nurses will only do what's been Rx'd in your chart, so discuss every concern you have before the operation w/your doctor and ask him/her to put your agreement in the chart. Another thing was the admitting doc put a nitro patch on me in case I had a blood clot in my leg (I had had a partial meniscectomy about 10 days before). My BP when the patch went on was 117/74. An hour later it was 80/50 & I said I was worried it was going too low (you know those TV shows, where the BP goes to 70/50 and the EMTs are shouting " BP's falling! She's fibrillating!! Give her some epi!! Get out the paddles!! " But she nonchalantly ignored me. My BP wasn't monitored continuously, just check every 4 hrs by the nurse (although my heart was monitored by radio waves to the nurses' station). At 4 am, the nurse took my BP & it was 50/30. I'm not exaggerating. I ask her if I was alive and she ripped the nitro patch off, still nonchalant. If you think something's wrong, make a scene. The nurses will (usually) only do what they've been told to do. Ann Re: Surgery Can anyone tell me about the whole surgery process they went through? I haven't had surgery on anything but my tonsils in my whole life and I don't really know what to expect... or anything about the recovery process and how long it will take for me to get better... like tell me your experiences please, I would appreciate the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 You must be talking about an assortment of arthroscopic surgeries. Most have a relatively short recovery time. I had four of those type, and after each one I was doing limited walking the same day, but many are not as fortunate and may need crutches for a period of time. I would guess a large percentage of members of this group have had arthroscopic surgery. Mike MT surgery Hi I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... Thank You, Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@...> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Mike, this is Deanna. I'm the person who had direct trauma to my knee 1 year ago know and have had Chondromalacia since. I've basically been told to strengthen my inner thighs, don't do exercise that bends my knee to much. I've had 2 cortison injections which I know I shouldn't continue since it's only a short term fix. I am McConnell taping my knee when I exercise but my knee is killing me and you can feel it rubbing together. My question is this. Is is worth going back to the Orthopedics for anything since he doesn't seem to help me. Should I pursue surgery. I have a job that doesn't let me take long periods of time of so I'm not sure I should.. Mike Bernhardt <mlbernhardt@...> wrote: You must be talking about an assortment of arthroscopic surgeries. Most have a relatively short recovery time. I had four of those type, and after each one I was doing limited walking the same day, but many are not as fortunate and may need crutches for a period of time. I would guess a large percentage of members of this group have had arthroscopic surgery. Mike MT surgery Hi I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... Thank You, Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote: Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@...> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hi Deanna, I had blunt trauma to the knees in march of 2003, my knees were slammed into the dashboard of my Dakota in an accident. I also developed CP due to the trauma. I have had 5 doctors and they pretty much tell me the same thing, my favorite is " if going up and down stairs hurts you, don't do it " . I had a lateral release and had my kneecap cleaned up and I can say the knee that had the surgery is quieter, I tried taping and for some people it works, for me it did not. I have been walking on my teadmill, 1.5 miles a day, very slowly and last night had a terrible night with the pain. I have pain in both knees, one knee is always worse than the other because I tend to baby the one that hurts more causing soreness to the other. Now we have this advill tylenol scare all over the news about liver and stomach damage, I pop these like Pez. Keep trying to doctors, get another opion, many people on here have had several opinions before finding a doctor willing to try anything. You may also want to look into Synvic/Supartz injections before surgery. These did not help me but they have helped other people on this message board. " D. A. " <redphys@...> wrote: Mike, this is Deanna. I'm the person who had direct trauma to my knee 1 year ago know and have had Chondromalacia since. I've basically been told to strengthen my inner thighs, don't do exercise that bends my knee to much. I've had 2 cortison injections which I know I shouldn't continue since it's only a short term fix. I am McConnell taping my knee when I exercise but my knee is killing me and you can feel it rubbing together. My question is this. Is is worth going back to the Orthopedics for anything since he doesn't seem to help me. Should I pursue surgery. I have a job that doesn't let me take long periods of time of so I'm not sure I should.. Mike Bernhardt <mlbernhardt@...> wrote: You must be talking about an assortment of arthroscopic surgeries. Most have a relatively short recovery time. I had four of those type, and after each one I was doing limited walking the same day, but many are not as fortunate and may need crutches for a period of time. I would guess a large percentage of members of this group have had arthroscopic surgery. Mike MT surgery Hi I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... Thank You, Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 >My question is this. Is is worth going back to the Orthopedics for anything since he doesn't seem to help me. Should I pursue surgery. I have a job that doesn't let me take long periods of time of so I'm not sure I should.. Wow, lay one on me . That's the million dollar question I am also dealing with. I am currently wearing Jobst socks to deal with pain and swelling and seeing a good PT. I also am not sure I could justify a long recovery time away from work, especially if the surgery does not work. I guess I see my current options as being if my knees get much worse to go to a chronic pain clinic or possibly a total or partial knee replacement as a last resort. I am currently not on any NSAIDS as it seems like just nothing works anymore. I just started on high blood medication as the pain, my age and genetic background have driven my blood pressure to unacceptable levels. Mike MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 At the risk of being labeled an idiot, I'd like to put forth something that gives me a little bit of relief. There's no guarentee it'll work for you, but personally I'm of the opinion that sometimes things work in weird ways. Awhile ago I read in my DH's AARP magazine about people suffering from arthritis doing this. Put one tablespoon of Certo liquid pectin into 6 oz of grape juice, stir really well and drink. Once a day. Oh lord, it sounds so stupid, but I went ahead and tried it. I gave it 10 days, and while it hasn't cured anything, nor am I totally pain free, it has " dampened " the pain some. Could it be that I'm just going through an " easier " phase with my knee? Yup.... could be a number of things....however, I live in cold country and previous years I've been so stiff this time of year that I felt almost immobile. This year I've spent hours shopping and on my feet....while still hurting a bit afterwards, it's nothing like it was. I've often scoffed at seemingly simple ideas, but when you have a condition like ours, where permanent relief is not easily in sight, it becomes easier to try some simple things and if they do give a modicum of relief, I'll take it. HAHA I tried the gin soaked raisin bit too.......no relief, but dang it, I sure liked those " drunk raisins! " ...... nne Re: surgery Hi Deanna, I had blunt trauma to the knees in march of 2003, my knees were slammed into the dashboard of my Dakota in an accident. I also developed CP due to the trauma. I have had 5 doctors and they pretty much tell me the same thing, my favorite is " if going up and down stairs hurts you, don't do it " . I had a lateral release and had my kneecap cleaned up and I can say the knee that had the surgery is quieter, I tried taping and for some people it works, for me it did not. I have been walking on my teadmill, 1.5 miles a day, very slowly and last night had a terrible night with the pain. I have pain in both knees, one knee is always worse than the other because I tend to baby the one that hurts more causing soreness to the other. Now we have this advill tylenol scare all over the news about liver and stomach damage, I pop these like Pez. Keep trying to doctors, get another opion, many people on here have had several opinions before finding a doctor willing to try anything. You may also want to look into Synvic/Supartz injections before surgery. These did not help me but they have helped other people on this message board. " D. A. " <redphys@...> wrote: Mike, this is Deanna. I'm the person who had direct trauma to my knee 1 year ago know and have had Chondromalacia since. I've basically been told to strengthen my inner thighs, don't do exercise that bends my knee to much. I've had 2 cortison injections which I know I shouldn't continue since it's only a short term fix. I am McConnell taping my knee when I exercise but my knee is killing me and you can feel it rubbing together. My question is this. Is is worth going back to the Orthopedics for anything since he doesn't seem to help me. Should I pursue surgery. I have a job that doesn't let me take long periods of time of so I'm not sure I should.. Mike Bernhardt <mlbernhardt@...> wrote: You must be talking about an assortment of arthroscopic surgeries. Most have a relatively short recovery time. I had four of those type, and after each one I was doing limited walking the same day, but many are not as fortunate and may need crutches for a period of time. I would guess a large percentage of members of this group have had arthroscopic surgery. Mike MT surgery Hi I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... Thank You, Tess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I had the shots about a month ago (the last one). I'd say it's helped some. What helps the most is working up slowly doing exercises that strengthen all the muscles you use to control your legs and knees (and ankles), including the ones for balance. One exercise I love (although I wouldn't want to be seen doing it) is to walk by lifting my legs (one at a time, of course) straight up to about 90 degrees from the floor. This is really good for the quads and balance -- and abs, while we're at it. I also find that I can do ham strengthening by lying on the floor & putting my feet (heels) on my bed & lifting my body. If I use the ham machines at the gym, it really hurts my kneecaps, but for some reason, doing it lying down doesn't. I always stretch after exercising, lying on the floor and using a Theraband with a loop tied in the end, putting the loop around my foot so I can raise my leg straight & pull it back toward my head, then change the angle so the leg is pulled to the side of my head, and increasing the angle outward a little more, holding for 20 sec. at each position. Do both legs, then stretch out the hip joint muscles by putting ankle on opposite knee & pulling toward your chest. Add pushing the knee away while pulling toward the chest for more muscle stretching. And quad stretching, the usual way, standing up. I've discovered tight scar tissue where the vastus lateralis meets the kneecap, I think a result of my lateral release in 1995 (for some barbaric reason, some surgeons cut the VL when they do a LR). I think this is what pulls my kneecap out of alignment, and if I turn my torso to face the direction opposite that leg while doing a quad stretch I can really feel that scar pull. I hope I'm stretching it. When cooking or otherwise standing around waiting for something, I do side leg lifts. I can't emphasize too strongly working up slowly from a level you'd be embarrassed to tell your friends about, adding time and resistance s-l-o-w-l-y to allow your 'knee muscles' to develop & to get back in the habit of supporting your movements. Ann Re: surgery Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote: Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@...> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Ann would you recommend the viscosupplementation or the lateral release? Or neither since you've had both. Deanna Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote: I had the shots about a month ago (the last one). I'd say it's helped some. What helps the most is working up slowly doing exercises that strengthen all the muscles you use to control your legs and knees (and ankles), including the ones for balance. One exercise I love (although I wouldn't want to be seen doing it) is to walk by lifting my legs (one at a time, of course) straight up to about 90 degrees from the floor. This is really good for the quads and balance -- and abs, while we're at it. I also find that I can do ham strengthening by lying on the floor & putting my feet (heels) on my bed & lifting my body. If I use the ham machines at the gym, it really hurts my kneecaps, but for some reason, doing it lying down doesn't. I always stretch after exercising, lying on the floor and using a Theraband with a loop tied in the end, putting the loop around my foot so I can raise my leg straight & pull it back toward my head, then change the angle so the leg is pulled to the side of my head, and increasing the angle outward a little more, holding for 20 sec. at each position. Do both legs, then stretch out the hip joint muscles by putting ankle on opposite knee & pulling toward your chest. Add pushing the knee away while pulling toward the chest for more muscle stretching. And quad stretching, the usual way, standing up. I've discovered tight scar tissue where the vastus lateralis meets the kneecap, I think a result of my lateral release in 1995 (for some barbaric reason, some surgeons cut the VL when they do a LR). I think this is what pulls my kneecap out of alignment, and if I turn my torso to face the direction opposite that leg while doing a quad stretch I can really feel that scar pull. I hope I'm stretching it. When cooking or otherwise standing around waiting for something, I do side leg lifts. I can't emphasize too strongly working up slowly from a level you'd be embarrassed to tell your friends about, adding time and resistance s-l-o-w-l-y to allow your 'knee muscles' to develop & to get back in the habit of supporting your movements. Ann Re: surgery Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote: Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@...> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Well, only your doctor knows for sure, as they say, about the lat. release. Of course, some docs don't believe in them, some don't do them right, some will do them whether you need it or not. I'd get 3 opinions. I think the visco injections are a good idea in any case. Good luck. Bad knees are bad news. I used to be on a cane. Ann Re: surgery Has anyone had viscosupplementation and how were the results? Don Franck <panteradon@...> wrote: Tess, I have had three of these surgeries and it depends on what they are doing on the knee. My first one was a lateral release and it took me several weeks to recover from this. The second was a simple carticel harvest and I was back walking within a day or two and had full range of motion within a week. So it's not the three holes, but what they do inside that determines the recovery period. Don On 12/20/06, tessperry <tessperry@...> wrote: > > Hi > I wanted to ask an question about the surgery with the three holes not > the knee replacement.... And has any one ever had it done?? And if you > have had it done how long the recovery after the surgery???.... > > Thank You, > Tess > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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