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Todd,

I would not dare to try and give advise whether you should go forward with this

surgery or not. I hesitated to even comment on this post because your daughter

is only 17 and I don't think it is anyone's place to try and persuade you .

This is a very personal and life changing decision you need to make and it

should be something for your family and doctor to decide. As a parent you have a

very difficult decision to make. I would wonder however why it is so important

to go ahead with the surgery in only a weeks time? Again this is a decision

between yourself and your doctor but 1 week to decide does not leave much room

to think through the decision and weight all of the potential options and

complications. Is the short time frame a scheduling thing for your surgeon and

have they indicated a medical reason they think it should be done so soon?

I can tell you that I had an esophagectomy last year and this is a very serious

surgery. This is not like having a myotomy. You need to understand the potential

complications of this surgery and your doctor should be able to explain them to

you clearly and in detail. I have recovered pretty well over the last eight

months but it was very difficult for those first few months. Very difficult.

Being that your daughter is so young and a serious athlete you really need to

speak to your surgeon bluntly about potential complications this surgery could

have on her athletic future.

There are two major methods of esophagectomy. TTE and THE. This site gives a

good describing of both methods: This link is more about the THE method.

http://surgery.med.umich.edu/thoracic/clinical/what_we_do/esophagectomy_faq.shtm\

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You really need to understand what type of method your surgeon is proposing. I

had the TTE method where the incisions were on the abdomen and the right side.

I am 35 now and admittedly not in the shape I was in my early twenties. While I

am healthy and feeling good the incision area under my right arm has affected my

strength on that side. That doesn't mean it is the same for everyone. This is

just my situation.

The other method the " THE " method usually involves an incision by the neck and

the abdomen but that method can have potential complications as well. This

method usually has less of the types of complications I have had with my right

side strength because the incision is in a different place.

If you do go forward it would be wise to vet your surgeon and the hospital you

will be having it done at. Make sure you understand how many of these surgeries

they are doing a year. This makes a difference in the potential of

complication. It is not just the doctor that is important it is the knowledge

and training of the staff at the hospital that provide the critical care after

the surgery. I am not sure who your surgeon is or what hospital you would have

this at but members of this board have been to many of the best in the country

so if you feel comfortable with posting the name of your surgeon\hospital you

may get some feedback that can help.

-Jeff

>

>

> Our 17 year old daughter had the usual symptoms of achalasia for about 2.5

years before she was diagnosed with achalasia in Dec. 09. Her first treatment

was a dilation then in March of 2010 she had a myotomy. From our research and

expectations from her doctors we assumed the myotomy would last 5 - 15 years.

For the first 2-3 months after the myotomy she was doing fine she could swallow

again and had gained 12 lbs. Then the typical symptoms started to return, she

has had 3 more dilations which resulted in a small tear in the esophagus. Her

condition has regressed and she went to her surgeon 3 days ago to discuss a

second myotomy, her surgeon is now convinced that the only option that will help

her situation is an esophagectomy! We knew eventually this may need to be done

but not so soon. She is a very positive kid and has handled all the pain,

treatments, tests and surgery like a trooper. Sometimes I wonder where she gets

her strength. In the past 1.5 years since her diagnosis we have been focused on

her diet and learning about the dilations and myotomy. We have not done much

research on the ectomy as we thought we would not have to face that until much

later. Her surgeon can perform the ectomy one week from now and its hard to get

our heads wrapped around it since we dont feel we know all the options. She is a

very active athletic teenager with a dream of playing university level female

hockey, a dream that is within reach for her as she has the skill plus a passion

unmatched by others. Does living with the ectomy normally inhibit intense

physical activity like sports? We know this is a big surgery with a difficult

recovery period, but it looks like there are very limited options. Any advice or

support is greatly appreciated.

>

> Todd

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Dear Todd,

I'm so sorry to hear that your daughter is going through this at such a young

age.  It would help to know who the surgeon was that did the myotomy?  If it

was

not done right, that could be why this has happened?  Having an ectomy is

serious, make sure that you get to the best of the best surgeon and/or second

opinion, maybe they can save her esophagus for awhile longer.  I have lived

with

this disease for over 23 years, I know it's a rough road.  Please give us more

info and we can all put our heads together and help you sort this out.  We are

not doctors, so we can only offer our own advice, but many here are very

knowledgeable. 

Julee So. Calif. 

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From: husky112 <husky112@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 2:15:27 PM

Subject: 17 year old needs esophagectomy

 

Our 17 year old daughter had the usual symptoms of achalasia for about 2.5 years

before she was diagnosed with achalasia in Dec. 09. Her first treatment was a

dilation then in March of 2010 she had a myotomy. From our research and

expectations from her doctors we assumed the myotomy would last 5 - 15 years.

For the first 2-3 months after the myotomy she was doing fine she could swallow

again and had gained 12 lbs. Then the typical symptoms started to return, she

has had 3 more dilations which resulted in a small tear in the esophagus. Her

condition has regressed and she went to her surgeon 3 days ago to discuss a

second myotomy, her surgeon is now convinced that the only option that will help

her situation is an esophagectomy! We knew eventually this may need to be done

but not so soon. She is a very positive kid and has handled all the pain,

treatments, tests and surgery like a trooper. Sometimes I wonder where she gets

her strength. In the past 1.5 years since her diagnosis we have been focused on

her diet and learning about the dilations and myotomy. We have not done much

research on the ectomy as we thought we would not have to face that until much

later. Her surgeon can perform the ectomy one week from now and its hard to get

our heads wrapped around it since we dont feel we know all the options. She is a

very active athletic teenager with a dream of playing university level female

hockey, a dream that is within reach for her as she has the skill plus a passion

unmatched by others. Does living with the ectomy normally inhibit intense

physical activity like sports? We know this is a big surgery with a difficult

recovery period, but it looks like there are very limited options. Any advice or

support is greatly appreciated.

Todd

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Thank you all for your help.

I'll try to clarify a few points. The surgeon that wants to do the ectomy is not

the same one that did the myotomy nor the dilations. The one that performed the

myotomy was a pediatric specialist because at the time she was 16. Before the

surgery we did fairly extensive research for this procedure including

discussions with the Cleveland clinic in Cleveland and also in Toronto. We live

in Alberta, Canada and found that one of the most respected centers with top

rated doctors is the U of A Hospital in Edmonton. The surgeon wanting to do the

procedure is Dr. Lees, he is confident that the myotomy was performed correctly

but the patient's condition is degenerative, which may be the case. I too do

not want to rush into this and that is why I posted the original post, but by

looking at other A patients reports it looks like a reasonable option for the

stage of her disease. Sometimes the attacks in her chest are severe enough that

she just lays on her bedroom floor clutching her chest in pain and sobs and she

is once again loosing weight. A definite concern is waiting too long and risking

a ruptured esophagus and the increased risk of cancer. Again I appreciate

everyones help, concerns and suggestions. The fact that others have gone through

what she is experiencing can be so beneficial, I know she feels different

because she has a disease that is so rare in young people.

Todd

>

> Dear Todd,

>

> I'm so sorry to hear that your daughter is going through this at such a young

> age.  It would help to know who the surgeon was that did the myotomy?  If it

was

> not done right, that could be why this has happened?  Having an ectomy is

> serious, make sure that you get to the best of the best surgeon and/or second

> opinion, maybe they can save her esophagus for awhile longer.  I have lived

with

> this disease for over 23 years, I know it's a rough road.  Please give us

more

> info and we can all put our heads together and help you sort this out.  We

are

> not doctors, so we can only offer our own advice, but many here are very

> knowledgeable. 

>

>

> Julee So. Calif. 

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: husky112 <husky112@...>

> achalasia

> Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 2:15:27 PM

> Subject: 17 year old needs esophagectomy

>

>  

>

> Our 17 year old daughter had the usual symptoms of achalasia for about 2.5

years

> before she was diagnosed with achalasia in Dec. 09. Her first treatment was a

> dilation then in March of 2010 she had a myotomy. From our research and

> expectations from her doctors we assumed the myotomy would last 5 - 15 years.

> For the first 2-3 months after the myotomy she was doing fine she could

swallow

> again and had gained 12 lbs. Then the typical symptoms started to return, she

> has had 3 more dilations which resulted in a small tear in the esophagus. Her

> condition has regressed and she went to her surgeon 3 days ago to discuss a

> second myotomy, her surgeon is now convinced that the only option that will

help

> her situation is an esophagectomy! We knew eventually this may need to be done

> but not so soon. She is a very positive kid and has handled all the pain,

> treatments, tests and surgery like a trooper. Sometimes I wonder where she

gets

> her strength. In the past 1.5 years since her diagnosis we have been focused

on

> her diet and learning about the dilations and myotomy. We have not done much

> research on the ectomy as we thought we would not have to face that until much

> later. Her surgeon can perform the ectomy one week from now and its hard to

get

> our heads wrapped around it since we dont feel we know all the options. She is

a

> very active athletic teenager with a dream of playing university level female

> hockey, a dream that is within reach for her as she has the skill plus a

passion

> unmatched by others. Does living with the ectomy normally inhibit intense

> physical activity like sports? We know this is a big surgery with a difficult

> recovery period, but it looks like there are very limited options. Any advice

or

> support is greatly appreciated.

>

> Todd

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Todd,

As the mother of an 18 year old with Achalasia, my heart goes out to you. On

the topic of her pain, it sounds like she's having esophageal spasms, which can

be unbearable. Does she have anything to help with the pain, like nifedipine?

Just curious. You can look through previous posts to see what other people do

to help with them. Also, if you seek a 2nd opinion, I highly recommend Dr. Rice

at The Cleveland Clinic. Not a peds surgeon, but did my son's myotomy when he

was 14. Vicki

> >

> > Dear Todd,

> >

> > I'm so sorry to hear that your daughter is going through this at such a

young

> > age.  It would help to know who the surgeon was that did the myotomy?  If

it was

> > not done right, that could be why this has happened?  Having an ectomy is

> > serious, make sure that you get to the best of the best surgeon and/or

second

> > opinion, maybe they can save her esophagus for awhile longer.  I have lived

with

> > this disease for over 23 years, I know it's a rough road.  Please give us

more

> > info and we can all put our heads together and help you sort this out.  We

are

> > not doctors, so we can only offer our own advice, but many here are very

> > knowledgeable. 

> >

> >

> > Julee So. Calif. 

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: husky112 <husky112@>

> > achalasia

> > Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 2:15:27 PM

> > Subject: 17 year old needs esophagectomy

> >

> >  

> >

> > Our 17 year old daughter had the usual symptoms of achalasia for about 2.5

years

> > before she was diagnosed with achalasia in Dec. 09. Her first treatment was

a

> > dilation then in March of 2010 she had a myotomy. From our research and

> > expectations from her doctors we assumed the myotomy would last 5 - 15

years.

> > For the first 2-3 months after the myotomy she was doing fine she could

swallow

> > again and had gained 12 lbs. Then the typical symptoms started to return,

she

> > has had 3 more dilations which resulted in a small tear in the esophagus.

Her

> > condition has regressed and she went to her surgeon 3 days ago to discuss a

> > second myotomy, her surgeon is now convinced that the only option that will

help

> > her situation is an esophagectomy! We knew eventually this may need to be

done

> > but not so soon. She is a very positive kid and has handled all the pain,

> > treatments, tests and surgery like a trooper. Sometimes I wonder where she

gets

> > her strength. In the past 1.5 years since her diagnosis we have been focused

on

> > her diet and learning about the dilations and myotomy. We have not done much

> > research on the ectomy as we thought we would not have to face that until

much

> > later. Her surgeon can perform the ectomy one week from now and its hard to

get

> > our heads wrapped around it since we dont feel we know all the options. She

is a

> > very active athletic teenager with a dream of playing university level

female

> > hockey, a dream that is within reach for her as she has the skill plus a

passion

> > unmatched by others. Does living with the ectomy normally inhibit intense

> > physical activity like sports? We know this is a big surgery with a

difficult

> > recovery period, but it looks like there are very limited options. Any

advice or

> > support is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Todd

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Todd,

I also had my heller myotomy with Dr Roaemurgy with the Tampa Geneal

Group in Tampa, FL. I work in a dental practice and had the privilege of meeting

his wife prior to seeing him. I had already done research on him when I met her.

It really was Gods's perfect timing. She was able to get me in with him promptly

and was so confident that he would know what I needed. He and his team do many

surgeries for achalasia and there are times a heller myotomy can be done twice.

Before I had my surgery i had terrible pain lasting all day and into the hours

of the night. It was terrible. I lacked sleep, was tired and just whipped from

all the pain. Post surgery I did experience a lot of spasms again and feared

that although I swallowed better I may be stuck with spasms. Over about 6 weeks

they finally subsided to where they only last a minute or so.....although they

are strong when they happen I have started seeing patterns.....yawning with a

deep breath, eating too fast or following a bite with too much drink eating and

talking or laughing while eating make me more prone to having a whopper of a

spasm. Heating up a rice filled bag in the microwave and laying it across my

chest did wonders for the strong spasms that would last for hours after surgery.

I would sleep with that against my chest and wake up to reheat. I sympathize

with your daughter. Ice cream always helps me....although right after surgery it

actually made it worse. Have u considered possibly having a heller myotomy

procedure done again? Seems like that would be a more conservative route.

> > >

> > > Dear Todd,

> > >

> > > I'm so sorry to hear that your daughter is going through this at such a

young

> >

> > > age.  It would help to know who the surgeon was that did the

myotomy?  If

> >it was

> >

> > > not done right, that could be why this has happened?  Having an ectomy

is

> > > serious, make sure that you get to the best of the best surgeon and/or

second

> >

> > > opinion, maybe they can save her esophagus for awhile longer.  I have

lived

> >with

> >

> > > this disease for over 23 years, I know it's a rough road.  Please give

us

> >more

> >

> > > info and we can all put our heads together and help you sort this out. 

We

> >are

> >

> > > not doctors, so we can only offer our own advice, but many here are very

> > > knowledgeable. 

> > >

> > >

> > > Julee So. Calif. 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: husky112 <husky112@>

> > > achalasia

> > > Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 2:15:27 PM

> > > Subject: 17 year old needs esophagectomy

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Our 17 year old daughter had the usual symptoms of achalasia for about 2.5

> >years

> >

> > > before she was diagnosed with achalasia in Dec. 09. Her first treatment

was a

> >

> > > dilation then in March of 2010 she had a myotomy. From our research and

> > > expectations from her doctors we assumed the myotomy would last 5 - 15

years.

> >

> > > For the first 2-3 months after the myotomy she was doing fine she could

> >swallow

> >

> > > again and had gained 12 lbs. Then the typical symptoms started to return,

she

> >

> > > has had 3 more dilations which resulted in a small tear in the esophagus.

Her

> >

> > > condition has regressed and she went to her surgeon 3 days ago to discuss

a

> > > second myotomy, her surgeon is now convinced that the only option that

will

> >help

> >

> > > her situation is an esophagectomy! We knew eventually this may need to be

> >done

> >

> > > but not so soon. She is a very positive kid and has handled all the pain,

> > > treatments, tests and surgery like a trooper. Sometimes I wonder where she

> >gets

> >

> > > her strength. In the past 1.5 years since her diagnosis we have been

focused

> >on

> >

> > > her diet and learning about the dilations and myotomy. We have not done

much

>

> > > research on the ectomy as we thought we would not have to face that until

> >much

> >

> > > later. Her surgeon can perform the ectomy one week from now and its hard

to

> >get

> >

> > > our heads wrapped around it since we dont feel we know all the options.

She

> >is a

> >

> > > very active athletic teenager with a dream of playing university level

female

> >

> > > hockey, a dream that is within reach for her as she has the skill plus a

> >passion

> >

> > > unmatched by others. Does living with the ectomy normally inhibit intense

> > > physical activity like sports? We know this is a big surgery with a

difficult

> >

> > > recovery period, but it looks like there are very limited options. Any

advice

> >or

> >

> > > support is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Todd

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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