Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Shamira wrote: > > ...Taniea's GI and he said that his treatment plan at the moment is > that she have another dilation with Botox. ... > > Have any you heard of such research particularly directed towards > children? > I am going to address the Botox issues separately from the rest of your message. I hesitate to post some of this because even though I think parents, and others, should know this I think the risk is not too large. One of the main uses for Botox in children is not achalasia but cerebral palsy patients being treated for spasticity in their legs. The idea here is to relax spastic muscles in the legs instead of in the esophagus but the way it works is the same. There have been problems reported with this use, even some (I think four) deaths in children. There are also reports of problems in adults. The product labels already contain a warning about risks for patients with neuromuscular problems but the FDA is now investigating similar reported problems in patients without that risk factor. The number of cases being investigated is suppose to be small so the risk may also be very small. It is thought that some of the problems are from overdoses. The products do not contain consistent instructions and one could confuse instructions for one product or treatment with another and overdose. Some other problems seem to come from the site of injection being close to another tissue that should not be treated. In treating cervical dystonia (spasms of neck muscles) there are reports of dysphagia (difficulty swallowing). In fact the labels already contains a warning about the cervical dystonia related dysphagia risk. The nerves that control swallowing for the esophagus are close to the injection sites for the nerves that control the neck muscles. Still in other cases the problems seems to happen at larger distances, a problem called distant spread. The body of a child is smaller so it takes less to overdose. The different tissues are smaller and closer together. Distances are smaller so distant spread could be more of a problem. There are not many studies of Botox for children with achalasia. Here are two: Botulinum toxin for achalasia in children http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106087 Evaluation of the use of botulinum toxin in children with achalasia http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10817280 There isn't much there to know that you probably don't already know. It works but not for long in most cases. There are not many reports of serious complications from Botox for achalasia. There is the issue of scarring but that is not part of this discussion. If I were interested in Botox I would understand these risks and then find the most experienced doctor with achalasia and Botox. I would then trust in the doctor and figure these risks are too small to worry about. If the doctor I could get was not very experienced with achalasia and Botox I would be more concerned. notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Thank you Notan. ________________________________ From: notan ostrich <notan_ostrich@...> achalasia Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: Children and Botox, WAS:Taniea's proposed treatment plan  Shamira wrote: > > ...Taniea's GI and he said that his treatment plan at the moment is > that she have another dilation with Botox. ... > > Have any you heard of such research particularly directed towards > children? > I am going to address the Botox issues separately from the rest of your message. I hesitate to post some of this because even though I think parents, and others, should know this I think the risk is not too large. One of the main uses for Botox in children is not achalasia but cerebral palsy patients being treated for spasticity in their legs. The idea here is to relax spastic muscles in the legs instead of in the esophagus but the way it works is the same. There have been problems reported with this use, even some (I think four) deaths in children. There are also reports of problems in adults. The product labels already contain a warning about risks for patients with neuromuscular problems but the FDA is now investigating similar reported problems in patients without that risk factor. The number of cases being investigated is suppose to be small so the risk may also be very small. It is thought that some of the problems are from overdoses. The products do not contain consistent instructions and one could confuse instructions for one product or treatment with another and overdose. Some other problems seem to come from the site of injection being close to another tissue that should not be treated. In treating cervical dystonia (spasms of neck muscles) there are reports of dysphagia (difficulty swallowing). In fact the labels already contains a warning about the cervical dystonia related dysphagia risk. The nerves that control swallowing for the esophagus are close to the injection sites for the nerves that control the neck muscles. Still in other cases the problems seems to happen at larger distances, a problem called distant spread. The body of a child is smaller so it takes less to overdose. The different tissues are smaller and closer together. Distances are smaller so distant spread could be more of a problem. There are not many studies of Botox for children with achalasia. Here are two: Botulinum toxin for achalasia in children http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106087 Evaluation of the use of botulinum toxin in children with achalasia http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10817280 There isn't much there to know that you probably don't already know. It works but not for long in most cases. There are not many reports of serious complications from Botox for achalasia. There is the issue of scarring but that is not part of this discussion. If I were interested in Botox I would understand these risks and then find the most experienced doctor with achalasia and Botox. I would then trust in the doctor and figure these risks are too small to worry about. If the doctor I could get was not very experienced with achalasia and Botox I would be more concerned. notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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