Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Kim there are two GI's here Dr. Donavan who is who was treating her prior to diagnosis he said " he could do nothing more for her because it's a surgical matter " then there is Dr. Altaf who is trying to find another treatment option.  ________________________________ From: Kim <kimmydawn42@...> " achalasia " <achalasia > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:07 PM Subject: Re: (Carolyn) Taniea's proposed treatment plan  As I've said before on the boards, I know next to nothing about american health care and dealing with insurance companies, but doesn't it seem like there IS simply no one available in your state who is qualified on paper to treat her properly, given her extensive history of NOT having gotten better?  I don't know how far you've looked into going to a QUALIFIED doctor to deal with Taniea's issues, but she needs a SPECIALIST, not just some doctor who is shooting darts at a board and hoping something finally sticks.  I know that Carolyn gave you some names and direction previously, and I really hope that you can find her someone that truly can help her... she's too young to have to deal with all this kim in canada ________________________________ From: Shamira <shareedanieal@...> " achalasia " <achalasia > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:46 PM Subject: Re: (Carolyn) Taniea's proposed treatment plan  Ok sorry about that. As I stated in the previous email we are Native American and Indian Health Services pay for the medical cost outside of the insurance. They will not approve her to go out of state with out them seeing that there is simply no one available in Oklahoma who is qualified on paper to treat her properly. This is what limits us. I am not sure of the extent of Dr. Pelligrini's involvement in Taniea's treatment and no he didn't perform the original surgery. Dr. Ranne did but he has recently moved to Texas. Yes, they are wanting to do the stretch and Botox together. Shamira From: Carolyn <wooleeacre@...> achalasia Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Taniea's proposed treatment plan  I am wondering.. Do they want to do both a stretch and botox, together?  Did Pelligrini do the original surgery?  How many stretches has she had? Has she been scoped and has that video been sent to Pelligrini? Is this a research study?What does " Native " mean? I don't think a child can be in a research study with out the parents permission but unless it was truly shown to have a significant outcome.. I would hesitate as botox and stretching has been around a long time and are questionable.  I would send the scope video out to Pelligrini and speak with him.. What does being limited by the word Native mean?? There are a lot of options for you..if you need to travel and don't have insurance. There are options for you for working with your insurance if that is the limitation. Botox has not been recommended for children from what I have read and heard. This little girl has to be treated tenderly, as her " parts " are young and more fragile, growth wise. She also has a long life to wish for ahead so we honor that by doing what ever it takes to get the best for our children. Lastly, we can all offer help and suggestions, but ultimately, it will be up to you what is done.  I would find the strongest, smartest, friend or relative you know to advocate with and for you, to act as an agent and listener for you.. to advocate for what you need and demand it. To your comment..  "  Although (especially since) you all are not doctors " , I have to say that the combined knowledge, experience and research here equals more than any doctor any where.. The only difference is .... we have not done the procedure ourselves and we obviously are on the other end of the scalpel.  please let us know what is happening.. Carolynmom of Cameron myo'd and fundo'd in 05  From: shareedanieal <shareedanieal@...> Subject: Taniea's proposed treatment plan achalasia Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 9:15 AM  Hello, I recently received a call from Dr. Altaf Taniea's GI and he said that his treatment plan at the moment is that she have another dilation with Botox. After which if she shows little to no improvement he would like to try it again and then another motility and myotomy. He says that there has been research concerning Botox and that it has been shown to help significantly. Now I have been reading previous post and I know that for some there was relief but for some there is concern about it. She already shows signs of being a keloid former and it seems to run in my family. So here are my concerns and questions. Have any you heard of such research particularly directed towards children? Although (especially since) you all are not doctors I do value your opinions do you think that this a viable plan? Other than voicing my concerns to the GI is there any other way I can ensure that she is getting the best care possible? The GI is consulting with Dr. Pelligrini and others and he is open to any suggestions that I offer. But travel is not an option for us as we are Native and we are limited to where they are willing to send her. Thank you in advance Shamira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Is Dr Altaf experienced with kids achalasia?  I just think that when he mentions things that many of us wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole, and kinda stumbles around with a course of treatment, that he just doesn't have the experience that she needs right now, after all that she has been through.  I would try to contact a top dr and see how they could help with your insurance, if need be. kim in canada ________________________________ From: Shamira <shareedanieal@...> " achalasia " <achalasia > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 6:24 PM Subject: Re: (Kim) Taniea's proposed treatment plan  Kim there are two GI's here Dr. Donavan who is who was treating her prior to diagnosis he said " he could do nothing more for her because it's a surgical matter " then there is Dr. Altaf who is trying to find another treatment option.  ________________________________ From: Kim <kimmydawn42@...> " achalasia " <achalasia > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:07 PM Subject: Re: (Carolyn) Taniea's proposed treatment plan  As I've said before on the boards, I know next to nothing about american health care and dealing with insurance companies, but doesn't it seem like there IS simply no one available in your state who is qualified on paper to treat her properly, given her extensive history of NOT having gotten better?  I don't know how far you've looked into going to a QUALIFIED doctor to deal with Taniea's issues, but she needs a SPECIALIST, not just some doctor who is shooting darts at a board and hoping something finally sticks.  I know that Carolyn gave you some names and direction previously, and I really hope that you can find her someone that truly can help her... she's too young to have to deal with all this kim in canada ________________________________ From: Shamira <shareedanieal@...> " achalasia " <achalasia > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 5:46 PM Subject: Re: (Carolyn) Taniea's proposed treatment plan  Ok sorry about that. As I stated in the previous email we are Native American and Indian Health Services pay for the medical cost outside of the insurance. They will not approve her to go out of state with out them seeing that there is simply no one available in Oklahoma who is qualified on paper to treat her properly. This is what limits us. I am not sure of the extent of Dr. Pelligrini's involvement in Taniea's treatment and no he didn't perform the original surgery. Dr. Ranne did but he has recently moved to Texas. Yes, they are wanting to do the stretch and Botox together. Shamira From: Carolyn <wooleeacre@...> achalasia Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Taniea's proposed treatment plan  I am wondering.. Do they want to do both a stretch and botox, together?  Did Pelligrini do the original surgery?  How many stretches has she had? Has she been scoped and has that video been sent to Pelligrini? Is this a research study?What does " Native " mean? I don't think a child can be in a research study with out the parents permission but unless it was truly shown to have a significant outcome.. I would hesitate as botox and stretching has been around a long time and are questionable.  I would send the scope video out to Pelligrini and speak with him.. What does being limited by the word Native mean?? There are a lot of options for you..if you need to travel and don't have insurance. There are options for you for working with your insurance if that is the limitation. Botox has not been recommended for children from what I have read and heard. This little girl has to be treated tenderly, as her " parts " are young and more fragile, growth wise. She also has a long life to wish for ahead so we honor that by doing what ever it takes to get the best for our children. Lastly, we can all offer help and suggestions, but ultimately, it will be up to you what is done.  I would find the strongest, smartest, friend or relative you know to advocate with and for you, to act as an agent and listener for you.. to advocate for what you need and demand it. To your comment..  "  Although (especially since) you all are not doctors " , I have to say that the combined knowledge, experience and research here equals more than any doctor any where.. The only difference is .... we have not done the procedure ourselves and we obviously are on the other end of the scalpel.  please let us know what is happening.. Carolynmom of Cameron myo'd and fundo'd in 05  From: shareedanieal <shareedanieal@...> Subject: Taniea's proposed treatment plan achalasia Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 9:15 AM  Hello, I recently received a call from Dr. Altaf Taniea's GI and he said that his treatment plan at the moment is that she have another dilation with Botox. After which if she shows little to no improvement he would like to try it again and then another motility and myotomy. He says that there has been research concerning Botox and that it has been shown to help significantly. Now I have been reading previous post and I know that for some there was relief but for some there is concern about it. She already shows signs of being a keloid former and it seems to run in my family. So here are my concerns and questions. Have any you heard of such research particularly directed towards children? Although (especially since) you all are not doctors I do value your opinions do you think that this a viable plan? Other than voicing my concerns to the GI is there any other way I can ensure that she is getting the best care possible? The GI is consulting with Dr. Pelligrini and others and he is open to any suggestions that I offer. But travel is not an option for us as we are Native and we are limited to where they are willing to send her. Thank you in advance Shamira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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