Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Spasms, to me, feel somewhat like a Charlie Horse in your sternum area, if that maybe helps you to understand the pain. Some of us just have what is called vigorous achalasia. I was diagnosed with that, but my spasms are not crawl on the floor strong. Years ago I took some bio feedback therapy for migraines and had some success, it was similar to LaMaze breathing. There was a muscle reader, just a little pad she put on certain spots and I learned to relax that set of muscles with a gauge that would move as you smoothed your tenseness. She taught me how to relax certain areas, like pushing out your bottom lip to relax your jaw line. It was fascinating and once you see the gauge move as you relax you can figure out how to relax certain muscles and realize what relaxed feels like. I don't ever hear anything about bio feedback anymore, though. For someone young I would think something like that might have benefits. Same as yoga or other relaxing techniques. As we start to feel a spasm then we tense up and it gets worse, it seems. Sandy > > We finally got Taniea on better pain medication she now takes Tramadol (Ultram) and Amitripyline as of yesterday. But she is having pain that is basically cripiling her. She is crawling on the floor because even with the meds she says she hurts to much to walk . > > The primary care doctor said she thinks Taniea has adhesions scar tissue sticking causing pain. They did x-rays and didn't see anything so as they say we are back to square one. > > She describes the pain as constant twisting but it is not at her sternum. She had the myotomy and fundo (tfal i think 270 degree) in Aug of last yr and it was just below her sternum not sure if thats thoracic or not. the incision is about 2 in long and the area she points to is right in the middle of it. Oh and the pain worsens after eating and she is on Prilosec 2x a day. My question is has any one else experienced this type of pain? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 That is interesting I am going to look it up. Taniea was diagnosed with Vigorious Achalasia actually. Yoga has been something something I have wanted to try personally I have never thought about going that way to help Taniea Excellent suggestions thank you Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Yes, let me know if it helps at all. The panic that comes with a spasm coming is almost as bad as the spasm, especially if you are doing something and can't get away. Eating something like HiHo Crackers or heavy bread, letting it stay there for a few minutes, then washing it down with fluid of choice, if she can do that, can stop my spasms. Some kind of food that stays firm, but that later dissolves in water seems the best for me. It can take up to four slices of bread. Imagine feeding a garbage disposal but not turning it on for a while. If she can't get it down, can she regurgitate it? Talking when I'm in front of a group or in a noisy space when I raise my voice, can trigger them also. There are old studies and I think my doctors told me that having vigorous achalasia doesn't really change the outlook or treatment. From this group, I'm guessing it is spasms, not heartburn, but I could be wrong. Some describe the pain also like it was a spindle of wire with hundreds or wires attached throughout your chest, up to your jaw and the spindle is twisting and turning pulling those wires in and out in all directions. I haven't seen a barium swallow of a normal person, but when I saw mine moving, it was like a dying snake with a shovel at both ends twisting and turning. After seeing that, I was able to visualize what was happening that I couldn't feel. You might get the videos or copies of her tests and show her. You probably should keep them anyway for the future, so she has a history to show doctors. Just knowing what is happening may give her some power over the spasms. I know bio feedback sounds like Californian hippy stuff, but it was very mechanical, the therapist did do some general talk therapy about what might be making me tense, but most of the time I was alone in a room testing how to relax and watching the little meter move. wonder where it went? Possibly acupuncture might help? But I'd be careful of people who might take advantage of the situation. To me, yoga is harmless and fairly inexpensive. Possibly even the Wii fit game might be beneficial. > > That is interesting I am going to look it up. Taniea was diagnosed with Vigorious Achalasia actually. Yoga has been something something I have wanted to try personally I have never thought about going that way to help Taniea Excellent suggestions thank you Sandy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 One, last thing about biofeedback... cost: My insurance covered most of it for a while, but that was the 80's. I went maybe 10 times, and each time learned a new little technique and just learned what " relaxed " felt like. For instance, shoulders: people raise their shoulders as they get tense. If you just drop and square your shoulders and stretch your neck up, like a string is pulling your head straight up and push out your bottom lip, with your jaws unlocked, you will ease a ton of tension in your neck and shoulder blades and jaw line. It would not have to be a whole bunch of appointments, maybe. > > That is interesting I am going to look it up. Taniea was diagnosed with Vigorious Achalasia actually. Yoga has been something something I have wanted to try personally I have never thought about going that way to help Taniea Excellent suggestions thank you Sandy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hello,   I had something going on similar to this after my surgery on June 28th 2010 maybe the should check her for Gastroparesis I found out if is what I had due to damage that was done during surgery and the pain is horrible..And it is wrose after you eat. ________________________________ From: shareedanieal <shareedanieal@...> achalasia Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:27:51 AM Subject: Sever pain unable to walk  We finally got Taniea on better pain medication she now takes Tramadol (Ultram) and Amitripyline as of yesterday. But she is having pain that is basically cripiling her. She is crawling on the floor because even with the meds she says she hurts to much to walk . The primary care doctor said she thinks Taniea has adhesions scar tissue sticking causing pain. They did x-rays and didn't see anything so as they say we are back to square one. She describes the pain as constant twisting but it is not at her sternum. She had the myotomy and fundo (tfal i think 270 degree) in Aug of last yr and it was just below her sternum not sure if thats thoracic or not. the incision is about 2 in long and the area she points to is right in the middle of it. Oh and the pain worsens after eating and she is on Prilosec 2x a day. My question is has any one else experienced this type of pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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