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I'd be you likely have aspiration pneumonia, or just regular pneumonia. Go to a

doctor ASAP.

good luck,

let us know!

sandy

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> Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something stuckin my

throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand the left

side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough along with

chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I stand

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Debbie wrote:

> ... I had fever the first few days of this cough along with chills, no fever

now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I stand

It may be that you had one infection that produced the fever and your

body was able to deal with it. The lungs are a part of the body where

opportunity is more likely to lead to infection than in some other

parts. Aspiration is of course one of those opportunities. Sometimes one

infection can be the opportunity that leads to another infection. You

could have ended up with more than one infection after the aspiration.

Your body may need some help with what remains even if it dealt

successfully with one infection.

notan

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Sounds like pneumonia to me. Achalasia has given me pneumonia twice in the last

6 years and I have a constant battle with coughing every night, even if I don't

eat past 5pm, so I can understand what you are going through. But ya, you might

need some antibiotics.

Jen

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From: debbie <dromangirl@...>

achalasia

Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 9:48:42 PM

Subject: AspirationPneumonia

Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something stuckin my

throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand the left

side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough along with

chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I stand

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So my doc calls me today to cancel my appt for tomorrow , i explain the

situation to her and she hears me coughing over the phone and says she hears

wheezing and it might be bronchitis or some acid reflux in my lungs, she goes on

to tell me she doesnt accept my new coverage and gives me a name for another

doctor who does, then she tells me I should him to make an appt. stat. so now I

have to wait until tomorrow morning to make an appt. to see this other doctor

who knows nothing about me or my achalasia but I'm going to be very patient

about it:) and not freak out

> >

> > Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something stuckin

my throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand the left

side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough along with

chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I stand

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That actually sounds logical :) thanks for the input, hoping to find out soon, i

cant take this coughing anymore feels like im going to pop a vein in my head

LOL

> > ... I had fever the first few days of this cough along with chills, no fever

now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I stand

>

> It may be that you had one infection that produced the fever and your

> body was able to deal with it. The lungs are a part of the body where

> opportunity is more likely to lead to infection than in some other

> parts. Aspiration is of course one of those opportunities. Sometimes one

> infection can be the opportunity that leads to another infection. You

> could have ended up with more than one infection after the aspiration.

> Your body may need some help with what remains even if it dealt

> successfully with one infection.

>

> notan

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Im reading a lot about achalasia and pneumonia and this is all new to me, and

I've had achalasia forever , only once did i have pneumonia and that was after

my second myotomy and that was about9 years ago. no fever but antibiotics will

be nice, I think you're right that's what I need:) thanks for replying. I'll

keep everyone updated

>

> Sounds like pneumonia to me. Achalasia has given me pneumonia twice in the

last

> 6 years and I have a constant battle with coughing every night, even if I

don't

> eat past 5pm, so I can understand what you are going through. But ya, you

might

> need some antibiotics.

>

> Jen

>

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> From: debbie <dromangirl@...>

> achalasia

> Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 9:48:42 PM

> Subject: AspirationPneumonia

>

>

> Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something stuckin my

> throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand the left

> side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough along with

> chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I

stand

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That really sucks Debbie, keep us posted as that's gotta be very frustrating.

Jen

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From: debbie <dromangirl@...>

achalasia

Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:57:02 PM

Subject: Re: AspirationPneumonia

So my doc calls me today to cancel my appt for tomorrow , i explain the

situation to her and she hears me coughing over the phone and says she hears

wheezing and it might be bronchitis or some acid reflux in my lungs, she goes on

to tell me she doesnt accept my new coverage and gives me a name for another

doctor who does, then she tells me I should him to make an appt. stat. so now I

have to wait until tomorrow morning to make an appt. to see this other doctor

who knows nothing about me or my achalasia but I'm going to be very patient

about it:) and not freak out

> >

> > Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something stuckin

>my throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand the left

>side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough along with

>chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I

stand

> >

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Hi Debbi

Once in awhile if I eat something that doesnt go down or if I get hicpups,I use

a COLD COKE, the CO2 opens the LES (medical report) and the Coke pushes it down.

Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

Hope this will help.

Ray

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> > > Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something

stuckin my throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand

the left side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough

along with chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially

when I stand

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CO2 doesn't work for either and for me it mostly makes it worse.

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Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:05:41 AM

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Ray wrote:

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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I was going to say the same, but I thought maybe I was a rare one... all coke

does for me is cause horrible pain, and more often than not, regurgitation :(

kim in canada

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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Bubbles do me in. I swallow too much air/gas and the food cant get beyond

it. No where to go but up! I also have a huge amount of foam that wont

break up, so food and drink sit on top of it. Also suspect a sigmoid E. Air/gas

gets trapped. Good news is absolutely NO GERD since Hellers Myotomy and

Dors Fundiplication in April 2009! At Cedars Sinai in LA. I eat less.

Favorite food is ice cream. It slides right down.

in Santa Barbara

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kimmydawn42@... writes:

I was going to say the same, but I thought maybe I was a rare one... all

coke does for me is cause horrible pain, and more often than not,

regurgitation :(

kim in canada

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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Kim

Let me know if you find any solution. All I can do is drink a little liquid

and go to the sink and roll my belly up like a Middle Eastern dancer to

bring it up....otherwise... no room for food. I would love a better

solution....anyone have a hint?

in Santa Barbara

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kimmydawn42@... writes:

I have the exact same thing ... the foam is out of control and

everything just sits right on top until the only place to go is out. I'm stuck

with barely anything " eatable " until this baby comes out and I can get in

for extensive testing with my surgeon... I'm currently spending most days

struggling to even get water in and down.

kim in canada

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(mailto:julieok@...) >

Subject: Re: Re: AspirationPneumonia

_achalasia _ (mailto:achalasia )

Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 4:54 PM

Bubbles do me in. I swallow too much air/gas and the food cant get beyond

it. No where to go but up! I also have a huge amount of foam that wont

break up, so food and drink sit on top of it. Also suspect a sigmoid E.

Air/gas

gets trapped. Good news is absolutely NO GERD since Hellers Myotomy and

Dors Fundiplication in April 2009! At Cedars Sinai in LA. I eat less.

Favorite food is ice cream. It slides right down.

in Santa Barbara

In a message dated 2/22/2011 7:14:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

_kimmydawn42@..._ (mailto:kimmydawn42@...) writes:

I was going to say the same, but I thought maybe I was a rare one... all

coke does for me is cause horrible pain, and more often than not,

regurgitation :(

kim in canada

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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Kim wrote:

> I was going to say the same, but I thought maybe I was a rare one... all coke

does for me is cause horrible pain, and more often than not, regurgitation :(

> kim in canada

I should probably clarify that my statement about it not working for me

was for acid in the esophagus. If I take a PPI I don't have any acid

problems. If I don't take a PPI I sometime I do have an acid problem and

coke does not help. Any carbonated drink, not just coke, did help with

getting food down before I had the myotomy. But it does not work for

everyone that way.

You are not alone. It causes problems in some cases. We have UESs that

like the LESs can function differently in some of us than in others of

us. Depending on how your UES functions, or doesn't, fizz could make you

choke. Also some people have longer and bigger esophagi so there is more

room for fizz to do its thing or be dissipated and do nothing. In some

people carbonation may stimulate peristalsis but in others it may just

stimulate a dysfunctional spasms of the muscles, which could still help

some but just cause it to come up for others. And then there is the LES

which has different pressures in different cases. Things that reduce LES

pressure in some will not in others. There are things that should reduce

LES pressure but in achalasia actually increase LES pressure. So if you

read that something has been found to decrease LES pressure, even if it

is true for most people, it may not be true for you, and may even

increase LES pressure. If a carbonated drink, such as coke, can't get

through the LES all that fizz has to go somewhere and it is going to

want to distend the esophagus, causing pain, and come back up. But it

did help me get things down before the myotomy. It just doesn't help me

with acid.

notan

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Debbie Yes, go to MD for Advair and meds right away. I've had

it several times. It'll knock u down hard if not attended to.

D Mac

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> > Ihave been coughing for 9days now, it feels like there is something stuckin

my throat more than the usual achalasia stickiness I've experiencedand the left

side of my back hurts. I had fever the first few days of this cough along with

chills, no fever now,no chillsbut the cough has worsened especially when I stand

> >

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I have the exact same thing ... the foam is out of control and everything

just sits right on top until the only place to go is out.  I'm stuck with

barely anything " eatable " until this baby comes out and I can get in for

extensive testing with my surgeon... I'm currently spending most days struggling

to even get water in and down.  

kim in canada

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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identical to me :)  I submit myself to the group for diagnosis and treatment as

well :D

kim in canada

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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Hi notan

For the new people on this site, PPI's have a problem with hip

fractures. If you have been on then 5-7 years and over 50, DONT fall, you may

break a hip.

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/postmarketdrugsafetyinformationforpatientsan\

dproviders/ucm213206.htm

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/abstract/179/4/319?ijkey=93a26ff511c90a4b30da64fc\

696b20eb81b45ce9 & keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

I have a lady friend who had myotomy at 80, and is doing well.I tried to get her

to join this site.

How ever she just fell and broke a hip, now in a rest home. I am not sure if she

was on PPI's, but she had Achalasia a long time.

COKE seems to help me with the GERD, but I have never let the doctors play with

my E. Many other on this sit use diet COKE to get the food down.

Ray 80 old as dirt! from Kalifornia OC MV

> > Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

>

> This trick does not work for me.

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> notan

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Any gasy drink makes things worse for me as well. Have to let the gas go flat

before i can drink anything like that.

from the UK

From: Crouch <jencrouch@...>

achalasia

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: AspirationPneumonia

 

CO2 doesn't work for either and for me it mostly makes it worse.

________________________________

From: notan ostrich <notan_ostrich@...>

achalasia

Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:05:41 AM

Subject: Re: Re: AspirationPneumonia

Ray wrote:

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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Hear, hear Notan i totally agree with you in regards the effects of carbonation

drinks. I now have Cricopharyngeal Achalasia in my little bit of gullet that i

have left after the ectomy and any carbonation just makes the tightness much

worse and goes down the wrong way that is one reason that i am booked to have a

dilatation on March 21st after my chest infection clears (this is due to stomach

acid and saliva going down the wrong way into my left lung).

from the UK

From: notan ostrich <notan_ostrich@...>

achalasia

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:26 PM

Subject: Re: Re: AspirationPneumonia

 

Kim wrote:

> I was going to say the same, but I thought maybe I was a rare one... all coke

does for me is cause horrible pain, and more often than not, regurgitation :(

> kim in canada

I should probably clarify that my statement about it not working for me

was for acid in the esophagus. If I take a PPI I don't have any acid

problems. If I don't take a PPI I sometime I do have an acid problem and

coke does not help. Any carbonated drink, not just coke, did help with

getting food down before I had the myotomy. But it does not work for

everyone that way.

You are not alone. It causes problems in some cases. We have UESs that

like the LESs can function differently in some of us than in others of

us. Depending on how your UES functions, or doesn't, fizz could make you

choke. Also some people have longer and bigger esophagi so there is more

room for fizz to do its thing or be dissipated and do nothing. In some

people carbonation may stimulate peristalsis but in others it may just

stimulate a dysfunctional spasms of the muscles, which could still help

some but just cause it to come up for others. And then there is the LES

which has different pressures in different cases. Things that reduce LES

pressure in some will not in others. There are things that should reduce

LES pressure but in achalasia actually increase LES pressure. So if you

read that something has been found to decrease LES pressure, even if it

is true for most people, it may not be true for you, and may even

increase LES pressure. If a carbonated drink, such as coke, can't get

through the LES all that fizz has to go somewhere and it is going to

want to distend the esophagus, causing pain, and come back up. But it

did help me get things down before the myotomy. It just doesn't help me

with acid.

notan

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Ray wrote:

> For the new people on this site, PPI's have a problem with hip

> fractures. If you have been on then 5-7 years and over 50, DONT fall, you may

break a hip.

Actually it has not been proven that PPI use causes an increased risk of

fractures. Even the FDA advisory that you provide a link to makes it

clear that they are just being cautious in case PPI use does increase

the risk, but that the evidence is not as good as they would like, even

contradictory, but because of the amount of it they wanted to put out an

advisory caution. What the studies in question seem to have found is

correlation not necessarily cause. They call for better studies to rule

out other causes. The other link you provided is a good example of

correlation. It significantly points to correlation, but it does not

control variables to prove causation. Your point though, that older

people and those on long-term PPI use should use some caution, is valid.

I found the FDA advisory a good excuse to get a bone density study done.

It was fortunate for me because that lead to finding other things that

were causing me a bone density problem that I would not have known about

if I simply just quit the PPI. In my case I still take the PPI and don't

feel it is a problem for me, in spite of the density issue.

notan

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http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/postmarketdrugsafetyinformationforpatientsan\

dproviders/ucm213206.htm

>

>

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/abstract/179/4/319?ijkey=93a26ff511c90a4b30da64fc\

696b20eb81b45ce9 & keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

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Ray wrote:

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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The trick does not work for me either. If anything it makes the acid worse as i

cannot swallow anything with fizz in it. I must let the fizzy drink go flat

before i can drink it if i want the taste that is.

from the UK

From: " LunaIam2@... " <LunaIam2@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 4:03 PM

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In a message dated 2/22/2011 8:06:12 A.M. Central Standard Time,

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Ray wrote:

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

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My daughter's assigned dietitian told her that stay from any carbonated drinks

and also  avoid using straws.

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From: Hulmes <christine.hulmes@...>

" achalasia " <achalasia >

Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 11:15:58 AM

Subject: Re: Re: AspirationPneumonia

 

The trick does not work for me either. If anything it makes the acid worse as i

cannot swallow anything with fizz in it. I must let the fizzy drink go flat

before i can drink it if i want the taste that is.

from the UK

From: " LunaIam2@... " <LunaIam2@...>

achalasia

Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 4:03 PM

Subject: Re: Re: AspirationPneumonia

 

In a message dated 2/22/2011 8:06:12 A.M. Central Standard Time,

notan_ostrich@... writes:

Ray wrote:

> Also the Coke helps with acid in the throat, much better than PPI's.

This trick does not work for me.

notan

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