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In a message dated 1/14/2004 7:31:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> I am worried because some days I'm literally hungry all day - like I want

> to eat every 3 hours or so... and I usually do... nothing big - still proteins

> - but grazing -

Hi Kim,

I just wanted you to know I have many days like this and I just try to keep

it to protein and I seem to do okay. As for protein shakes, I like Designer

Whey protein in the blender with milk, ice and a banana (I add a packet of

Splenda). Some protein drinks are really disgusting to me, but I find this a

treat

-- I use chocolate and find it tastes like a milkshake for me!

I hope this helps...it takes me a long time to drink the shake.

Hugs and blessings,

Ann

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> > I fell into some morass of uncontrolled eating, weight gain, and

> > feelings of shame.

>

> Nothing to be ashamed about! You're human, and humans are

programmed to seek out food, to eat, both for health and pleasure. It

goes *against* human nature to purposely restrict foods, to chose

only foods that *don't* taste good. See if your library can get The

Pleasure Trap by Doug Lisle, PhD. I'm halfway through it myself and

it does help a lot.

>

>

Occasionally, walking back to the car with my " booty " an errant

thought would hit me, 'I'm just doing survival stuff here. Eating is

one consistent joy I have. When I let myself eat whatever I want, I

am indulging my desire to feel completely happy. I keep depression

at bay for a brief time.'

So I did have to give myself a break. It seems that at least I do

reach a point where I have " had enough " . This time it involved a

half gallon of ice cream. had gone out at night just for me

and just to buy this one thing.

It took me three days to finish it off. On the second day, I thought

to myself, " really loves me. I owe it to him to at least

try. "

On the third day, as I finished the last bite, I knew I was ready.

That night I had a nightmare and screamed to wake myself up. In the

dream I was trying on lingeree and a security guard came in to dust

the stalls. He opened the door to mine and leered at me while he

dusted away.

What is interesting is that I was at goal weight in the dream. I

have not been able to dream myself thin EVER. I guess my subconcious

is ready for , too.

Kim

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> KIM!!!!

>

> I'm glad to see you back! I'd been thinking about you! Keep up

the

> great work of staying on plan!

>

> a

> who is finding it hard to get all the way on the wagon...

Thanks, a!

Last night I was watching the tube with and I felt like eating

exchanges I didn't have left. I just remembered how for two + months

I couldn't string two plan days together and drank some more water.

I noticed that in grocery stores I have problems so I intentionally

look away from my binge foods and sort of hold my breath when I pass

through the bakery section. I know I don't want to eat that stuff,

and I feel better if I don't start up obsessive mental tugs-of-war in

my head.

Kim

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welcome back Kim - missed you. Life happens but the important thing is that you found your way back to plan <GBG>

In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip.- L. Reardon

Re: Kim

I haven't been doing anything online, groups or email, until today.I fell into some morass of uncontrolled eating, weight gain, and feelings of shame. I was constantly obsessing about food and planning binges but I started feeling too ashamed to buy any junk food at the stores. About three days ago, I was blessed with a reprieve and was able to start the foodmover again. This is my fourth day today. I know this one thing is true: it is easier to stay on than to get back on.I'm not going to try to read back for what I missed, just jump in right here.Kim> New Years 2004, Email Stationery by CloudeightHi Kim,> > I haven't seen you post lately and was wondering how you were doing. Just wanted to touch bases - I miss your posts.> > > - who's picked herself up, dusted herself (and her foodmover) off and am ready to start again!> > Destiny is no matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved.> - Jennings To unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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In a message dated 1/24/2004 8:46:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> " Positive thoughts bring positive results "

>

I'm not positive (smile) but I think that is from the late Dr. Norman

Peale.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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In a message dated 1/24/2004 8:46:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> " Positive thoughts bring positive results "

>

I'm not positive (smile) but I think that is from the late Dr. Norman

Peale.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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In a message dated 1/24/2004 8:46:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> " Positive thoughts bring positive results "

>

I'm not positive (smile) but I think that is from the late Dr. Norman

Peale.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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In a message dated 1/24/2004 4:15:33 PM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> " The harder you work, the luckier you get " Just sharing

Now ain't that just the truth!

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> I was 238 pounds at the time of surgery and at 12 weeks out had

lost only 40 pounds. I did everything I could to drop more, faster,

but my body had it's own timetable! Now, I have lost almost 100

pounds, have gone from a size 26 to a size 8 and I feel great, all

in a little over a year. I too was one of those who just KNEW that

this surgery would fail me, or that I would fail IT!! Keep doing

what you are doing, stop stressing and let things happen in God's

time! You are doing great woman!!!

>

> Cindee

>

>

>

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cindee- what about food- did you allow yourself carbs?? Dr Z said im

losing at a good pace, but I know i eat alot of carbs.

vicki

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> I was 238 pounds at the time of surgery and at 12 weeks out had

lost only 40 pounds. I did everything I could to drop more, faster,

but my body had it's own timetable! Now, I have lost almost 100

pounds, have gone from a size 26 to a size 8 and I feel great, all

in a little over a year. I too was one of those who just KNEW that

this surgery would fail me, or that I would fail IT!! Keep doing

what you are doing, stop stressing and let things happen in God's

time! You are doing great woman!!!

>

> Cindee

>

>

>

********************************

cindee- what about food- did you allow yourself carbs?? Dr Z said im

losing at a good pace, but I know i eat alot of carbs.

vicki

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> I had a handful of cheetos yesterday - no problem (this is good

news and bad news)

hmmm I guess I could force myself to try something else - I have been

afraid of fried foods -> Kim

A handful? A handfull!?! How on earth did you eat just a handfull?

Oh, yea, you are just a few weeks out...that answers my question...lol

Fried foods shouldnt give you gas just the runs...it is what you fry

or what is attached to what you fry that will give you gas.

good luck.

Sharon in Onyx

walking down hall, shaking her head, wondering how anyone could eat

just a handfull of cheetos...or maybe thinking of trying that,..mmm?

what do I have to do tomorrow?

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In a message dated 1/30/2004 9:59:43 PM Central Standard Time,

mjs93311@... writes:

Marta

shaking her head at one who doesn't appreciate her hubby enough, now

if I had one...

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You'd use and abuse him?

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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> One thing is for certain, it will be a cold day in HELL before it

happens again... I am embarrasing myself with this gas... how is

that possible :o) ... The poor dog won't even sit by me and he loves

me the most

Kim,

I think the reason my eating habits have changed so drastically is

my hatred of gas. I hate the feel, I hate the stink.

Marta

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> One thing is for certain, it will be a cold day in HELL before it

happens again... I am embarrasing myself with this gas... how is

that possible :o) ... The poor dog won't even sit by me and he loves

me the most

Kim,

I think the reason my eating habits have changed so drastically is

my hatred of gas. I hate the feel, I hate the stink.

Marta

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> Ditto - and I typically have had hardly any problems with it... I

mean I get some - usually in the evenings - but its not like this -

This is almost surreal ... I keep thinking - this has got to be the

end of it - but no, another round - been going on for about 3 hours

now.... TMI huh? I can see how this might start you losing again...

spending a lot of time in the restroom... sorry to whine - I brought

it on myself.

>

> Kim

It is NOT the gas or the breading on something that gets you losing

again, it is the fat that makes things move. You can get fat in

without the breading. It is the gluten or white flour that you are

having a gas reaction to. Does this help?

Sharon in Onyx

who knows not to eat bread but every now and then cant resist

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In a message dated 2/2/2004 7:43:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> Thanks Ann, and I'm thinking about you and praying for your speedy recovery

> - are you excited?

>

> Kim

Dear, sweet Kim, thank you for your prayers -- I need them so much. I AM

excited and just starting to feel a little anxious about not having my family

with me. I know I am going to be fine, though. I can't wait to deliver these

Alien Babies (twins) and have a flat tummy! LOL

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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In a message dated 2/2/2004 7:43:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

> Thanks Ann, and I'm thinking about you and praying for your speedy recovery

> - are you excited?

>

> Kim

Dear, sweet Kim, thank you for your prayers -- I need them so much. I AM

excited and just starting to feel a little anxious about not having my family

with me. I know I am going to be fine, though. I can't wait to deliver these

Alien Babies (twins) and have a flat tummy! LOL

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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Also, we travel extensively during the Summer with my daughter's

softball team so funds have to be limited - especially air fare....

This Summer we are scheduled to go to - Colorado, Las Vegas,

Florida, Georgia (this one is tentative) ... They play in the big

exposure tournaments - to be seen by college coaches in the hopes of

getting a scholarship... in addition to many tournaments also all

over Texas - blah blah - you don't care but I'm bored so I tell the

smallest details of my life...:o)

>

> Have a good day.

>

> xxoo

>

> Kim

~~~~~~~~~~~

Sounds like you are kinda proud of that daughter,doesnt it feel great

to know you are going to be able to do all these things and not feel

so pooped out??? Keep up the good work about staying off the scales,

or we will send Eddie back there to hide those scales,and he hides

them really good.Hu Bonnie??? LOL

Have a great day

God bless,

Pat

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In a message dated 2/3/2004 11:52:41 AM Central Standard Time,

p_welborn13@... writes:

Georgia (this one is tentative

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Where in Ga?

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 2/3/2004 11:52:41 AM Central Standard Time,

p_welborn13@... writes:

Georgia (this one is tentative

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Where in Ga?

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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> Thanks Mama J - after I pushed the " Send " button - I was like - I

cannot believe I just did that... oh well - I don't have any guilt

about it all...

I think this is more common than most people know. I experienced

something similar, also.

Marta

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> Laurie,

>

> First what the heck is FWIW????

I think Jim answered this already...for what it's worth.

You know, reading your last post made me think of yet another time I

felt violate. In high school, my homeroom teacher use to hit on me

very subtely. I had never dated and was very very naive so I was

never sure. Then one day (I went to a private Catholic school)

during the " sign of peace " in a school-side church service, he pulled

me towards him and kissed me right on the lips!!! I was shocked and

had no idea what to do. Then for my 18th birthday he showed up at my

house with a single white rose. My mom thought " oh what a nice

teacher " . I hated him! Not only was he my homeroom teacher, but my

THEOLOGY teacher.

No wonder I'm such a screwed up mess when it comes to dating. Men

have been real monsters to me.

Where are all the good, healthy, Christian men that treat women like

Christ treated the church? All I need is one! Isn't there ONE out

there??? lol

Hugs,

Laurie

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I had a similar experience and started gaining when I was 10 yrs old. I was

up to 200 lbs by the 6th grade.

-:¦:-Jeanne -:¦:-

Of Eureka

**Grand Opening**

Apr, 09 with

" Da Big K-huna "

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> <42 pounds (2 more since yesterday - woo hoo)

kim

wooohooooo you're on a roll now! keep doing whatever you're doing :-)

laurie

still refusting to use capitals and still doing lo carb--day 2

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> Laurie,

>

> I know that I SHOULD know this... but when is your DS scheduled for?

Kim,

Right now, it's still scheduled for August 11. But that could change

due to finances and my work schedule. My boss thinks September would

be better. Then I will miss the pool party! :-(

laurie

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