ImmunoPro

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ImmunoPro does not come in packets, it comes in a cannister. If you had such

a problem with Immunocal, I would think you would also have this problem with

ImmunoPro : ( It is not covered by Medicaid.

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To whom it may concern,

I ordered Immunocal months ago, tried it and had immediate allergy stuff -

sinus congestion, stuffy head. I knew I had a dairy allergy but was

desperate to do somehitng about my Glutathione situation. Sinus infections

were part of my immune system problems leading up to CFS so I was afraid to

push through the symptoms from the whey. So I the Immunocal ,but after

reading lately all of the encouraging messages re: whey I want to give it

another try and see if I can't just deal with the side effects.

Would any of you taking the ImmunoPro be willing to sell me just one packet,

so that I can try it without going hrough the hassle of having tp get rid of

a box of the stuff if I can't tolerate it?

Please back channel if interested.

Thanks,

M- from MAine

PS The immunocal was covered by medicaid, is the ImmunoPro?

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> To whom it may concern,

> I ordered Immunocal months ago, tried it and had immediate allergy

stuff -

> sinus congestion, stuffy head. I knew I had a dairy allergy

You definitely should try ImmunoPro. I'm quite sure I read that even

those who were lactose intolerant could handle the 'Pro.

Unfortunately, it only comes in canisters, not packets. So it will

set you back some cash, but if it works...I think the trick would be

to start with a very low dose, say, 1/4 tsp., and see if you react.

Jackie

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> In a message dated 4/9/00 3:22:19 AM Central Daylight Time,

> egroups writes:

>

> << Okay, I know that this has been discussed before, but I don't

remember.

> How are we supposed to take it? On the cannister, it says on an

empty

> stomach with water, but I seem to remember others says that they

put it on

> their cereal. How do other's take it? >>

>

> See Steve, I was afraid that this was going to happen. DO NOT PUT

IMMUNOPRO

> ON YOUR CEREAL. The manufacturer told me that the best way to

take it is

> with fresh whole milk. Some take it in water but I don't

understand this

> because

> the whey came from milk in the first place so it is not like you

are adding

> some

> foreign substance. Put one tsp. of Pro in a watertight container

with about

> 2-3 ounces of milk. Shake vigorously and let it sit for a few

minutes. Then

> drink on

> an empty stomach.

>

> Mike

Mike:

You talked to someone at Wellsprings? Could you post the phone no.?

Jackie

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Since it seems like many of us are going to be taking ImmunoPro, has

anyone thought about buying ten cases or so from and then

redistributing them to the group? MK was talking about $21/jar if a large

number

of cases were purchased. I hear he is looking for more distributors, and

I think it could be a good opportunity for someone to make a little money

while supplying Pro to the list for maybe $30 per jar. I would commit

to buying 6 jars, and if someone could get the order presold, there wouldn't

be any risk of unsold inventory. Any comments?

Mike

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>> Don't you just LOVE the natural laws of commerce?

>>

>> Nelly

>>

I understand the sentiment Nelly posted about ImmunoPro.

I don't know if this info would help but the price - $21 is from the early

days (in Jan) when no one had tried ImmunoPro. MK was going to let Dave

buy it at that price so some of us on the list could get started

(thanks to Mike C for getting us that far) When I got involved (because

Dave didn't want to sell it), MK gave me the price of $24 per canister).

That offer expired when NEEDS became the distributor. : ( Mike C would not

have known that since he was not involved at that point which may be why he

posted the $21 price - a pre-evaluation price.

It saddens me that this is so upsetting to people but I DO understand why

people feel this way. On the other hand, I don't hear anyone complaining

about the high cost of other wheys, Transfer factors or human growth

hormones or organic foods and meats. We cannot target one person, Mike

Keenan just because we have access to his email address or his phone number

or feel we can blast him on a public forum, unless we also target ImmunoCal

and ImuPlus. I invited him to do a townhall but I don't think he will due

to our behavior. Which is a shame as there are many people needing advice

on how and why to do whey who do not have the care of a physician.

Remember, ImmunoCal and Imuplus is more expensive than ImmunoPro and there

is no one to help - why are we targeting ImmunoPro? I am grateful to MK for

what he has done in figuring out how to keep the amino acids/protein/the

globulin intact so we can recover. I was spending $40/month on 4

glutathione injections that may be less effective than ImmunoPro/Cal/Plus.

Why do we expect that it should be free? How much does TF cost? We have

all spent too much money on stuff that doesn't work. $40/month for something

that has shown to take positive HHV-6 tests from positive to negative and

we're complaining? I can't take but 1/8 of a tsp of ImuPlus (seeming to be

less powerful than ImmunoPro) per day so 1 $40 canister is going to last me

several months! It is probably the cheapsest, most effective item aside

from my Vit C and my fish oil.

On a different note:

A lot of profit is being made on MANY supplements/medications/food that we

NEED to get well.

How do we change that? An idea is being birthed here - there is a huge need

for low cost/at cost treatments - supplements/foods/meds - how do we meet

that need?

How do we change this? Let's stop complaining/attacking others and figure

out a solution. I'm in - who else?

Banding together in some form is part of the solution - who wants to

brainstorm with me to come up with a solution? This goes beyond ImmunoPro.

This has been on my heart since Dec when I realized I might be able to keep

my job and not lose custody of my son (at least until I could figure out how

to recover). (I am a single mom with no backup of any sort - financial,

physical or emotional.) Many other people are not as fortunate.

Change benefiting the chronically ill will have to come from the chronically

ill -

Let's figure out what to do and do it! -

Marty Z.

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> Marty

In some ways I agree with your sentiment & I always find you post of great

value. However this is a group for consumers and consumers have every right to

complain about pricing and to investigate

the value of products. Any provider listening in on this list should be happy to

see what people are really thinking. Providers pay thousands if not millions of

dollars on marketing research to

finding out what there customers are thinking. So I don't think people should

watch what they say for fear any particular provider may be looking in.

You are most likely right that, if I understand you right, that Immunopro is a

fairly priced product but even if it is there is nothing wrong with consumers

questioning and investigating the

product. I would love to see someone investigate TF and find out what the cost

of producing this product. I could say the same for various other products,

kutapressen, the hydro B12, others -- I'm

sure every one has there own list.

I am not sure that it is appropriate for any provider to contact individual

participating on this list about things they said about a product -- what do

others think about this. The whole area of

consumers discussing product information on the web is such a new area. It is

difficult to know what is ethical and what is not. For example in discussing

treatment options, these options are

identified with a particular provider and the published literature put forth the

only reasonable way to talk about these issues is to evaluate the validity of

the particular providers claims. This

is not personally slamming an individual, I have a fair number of publication in

a couple of research areas. If some one does not like what I have written they

have every right to say is full

of XXX. Heck I am just glad that they found my stuff interesting enough to read

and talk about. So let's not walk on eggs in discussing the products and

practitioners on this list. If providers are

listening in then they are getting good marketing research for free. Whether of

not it is ethical for providers to be listening in to a consumer news group is

an interesting question. I do not have

a big problem with it but they should not cry if they do not like what they

hear.

Steve

> How do we change this? Let's stop complaining/attacking others and figure

> out a solution. I'm in - who else?

>

> Banding together in some form is part of the solution - who wants to

> brainstorm with me to come up with a solution? This goes beyond ImmunoPro.

> Change benefiting the chronically ill will have to come from the chronically

> ill -

> Let's figure out what to do and do it! -

> Marty Z.

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