Re: Hyman(StonyBrook,N.Y.) & abx treatment

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moores@... writes:

>>Here is a web site on the GWI study

>>if you are interested.

> http://gulfwarvets.com/treat.htm

>> I am getting more information on his testing procedure and I will post it

when I >>can. I am a bit of a skeptic (as usual) but if I tested positive I

would go my his >>procedure rather that Nicholson.

>> Nicholson is not an MD with clinical experience whereas Hyman is.

writes:::::::#4 If you meet criteria with Dr. Hyman, you will be

sent to the State University of New York, Health Sciences Center at Stoney

Brook, NY for further examination (at no cost to you). This exam takes two

days plus travel time to and from New York.

If further determined >>>>Snip<<<<<

Hello Steve...... I love this site very informative with Nicolson and

papers that he & Hyman wrote. I didn't pull them up. But if you do a search

with Hyman & Nicolson......

Hyman will send you up to LongIsland where I was dxd once again with CFS by

DrL.Krupp, (MS/CFS/PostLyme/ she is now into GWI but still with on CFS.

Is the gov't using Hymans protocol or is he using theirs which was modeled

after Nicolson but not with any of his other reccomendations.......

Or did Hyman & Nicolson pool their knowledge in reccomendations?

Once again I sure hope these millions of $s and our Vets will recieve help.

You asked if anyone was serious about abx's why wouldn't they use Hyman?

I don't think it is open to CFS civilians.......

Thanks

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Steve wrote:::::> > http://gulfwarvets.com/treat.htm

Huge page but as far as I can tell Hyman would like You to vist StonyBrook

twice, begining and later. This is the place where I had the pych testing

back fire and what a horrible way to treat ill patients.

Krupp was not part of that mess, she is very bright and knows just asking

several questions and simple phsical exam.

Do you know what Drs are to see these patients after the long haul from the

Big easy ? Did you find the Hyman protocol or was it the gov't one with

Donta & Nicolson one?

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I do not think the study is open to civilians but a person could still be

treated my hyman if he was willing to take them. I guess you would just need to

go to New Orleans to get treated. Since you

would not be in the study you would not need to go to stony brook. I think the

main thing that Hyman has to offer is his use of IV abxs. I am not sure if any

other Drs in the US would use this

procedure.

Steve

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>>> Nicholson is not an MD with clinical experience whereas Hyman is.<<<

this is true but so many have been cured or are in recovery with Nicolsons

considerations with abx's,lab tests, enviormental triggers, alternitive help

& supplements. As for me I wouldn't have gotten this far if it weren't for

testing and his considerations for my Dr. to evaluate.

Krupp was OK in dxing, she was the one that gave me 6 weeks of doxy or i

wouldn't have known how I would react,

I stared at that bottle for two days before I even took one pill. then over

the yrs. all added up to mycos ,now even Nicolson is into a virus in cfs.

By the 14th year, I was down for the count, continous relapsing, Krupp did

the Envelope theory & Cheneys Boundaries.

Lydia, What bacteria was seen in your blood by Hyman. what is Stonybrook

seeing you recover from.

Thank you,

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In a message dated 04/01/2000 10:25:37 PM Central Daylight Time,

SusyDog@... writes:

<< Lydia, What bacteria was seen in your blood by Hyman. what is Stonybrook

seeing you recover from.

Thank you,

>>

,

The bacteria were in the urine and this method of discovery was founded by

Dr. Hymen himself. According to records I had large numbers of tiny

encapsulated cocci (TEC) as well as large numbers of exploded cocci. There

were rare gram-positive cocci and diplococci. My discharge diagnosis after 3

weeks of IV Doxy at 2 grams a day (continuance drip) is as follows:2/23/98

1. DESERT STORM SYNDROME

2. INDOLENT BACTEREMIA WITH INDOLENT BACTERIURIA

3. SYSTEMIC COCCAL DISEASE

4. RECURRENT FEVER

5. CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, ARTHRALGIA, MYALGIA, MUSCLE CRAMPS,

NON-EXUDATIVE PHARYNGITIS, PERIODIC BRONCHIAL ASTHMA, HEMOPTYSIS, MEMORY

LOSS.

I was sent home to continue the Doxy at 1.5 grams a day taken in the form of

10 150 mg caps with dinner meal. Sent stomach into a tizzy and have been on

Prilosec ever since and I have just started to really relapse in the last few

months and he, DR. Hyman, has asked me to come back for a repeat of the same

treatment for my current manifestations.

I have also been diagnosed with Lupus since the treatment.

It has been 2 years and the first year I was almost symptom free. I still do

not understand all of this alphabet soup and sometimes in hard to tell which

is bothering me or just overlapping. GWS/CFS/FMS/Lupus/Asthma.

Hope this helps a little.

Lydia

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Re: Hyman(StonyBrook,N.Y.) & abx treatment

>>>> Nicholson is not an MD with clinical experience whereas Hyman is.<<<

>this is true but so many have been cured or are in recovery with Nicolsons

>considerations

Uhh, can you name Anybody that has HAS BEEN CURED or are

you reading Nicholson's advertisement copy.

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I only wish there was such a cure.

I am more than happy to return to DR. Hyman and feel privilagesd that he

asked me to return for a repeat treatment. I have had great results from the

last and if I have to go every 14-18 months so be it!

Lydia