Undenatured whey - for

[Guest guest]

, you asked " what's the deal with: neurontin, whey (what's the theory

behind using it, and what is it?), mycoplasma?, hhv6?, blood thining, herxing

(really keen to find out what herxing is :-), nadh, and anything else I'm

missing. "

I can help with the whey info. I'm updating Cheney's Treatment Protocol for our

support group's website and I've added a section on whey.

(www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids). I've pasted it below. Take care. Carol

Undenatured Whey: detox and antimicrobial benefits

I believe that the glutathione deficiency found in virtually all patients is the

key problem, particularly over time. Nothing we tried significantly increasing

its functionality. The consistent low to low normal levels of glutathione in

whole blood, and particularly the abnormal functional markers of glutathione

(elevated lipid peroxides, elevated citrate, depressed alpha ketogluterate)

indicated that neither supplementation, injections, nor other interventions

seemed to be addressing intracellular levels, which is where 90% of the body’s

glutathione is needed. The deficiency was extremely treatment resistant.

There are two major implications of glutathione deficiency: detox failure and

viral/microbial activation. Glutathione plays a major role in the detoxification

pathways of the body, and this deficiency makes these patients very difficult to

manage from a detoxification standpoint. Using a good detox program that has

worked on a lot of other people can actually put some of these patients in the

hospital. The cellular detox failure this deficiency causes can make these

patients canaries to their environment. Therefore the glutathione deficiency

needs to be addressed before any serious attempt is made at detoxification.

Glutathione is also a powerful antiviral and antimicrobial weapon.

Falci, the top HIV researcher at the NIH has shown that HIV growth can be

completely stopped by raising the glutathione in-vitro in the cell culture.

Given the widespread activation of viruses like EBV, CMV, and HHV6, and the

activation of microbes like mycoplasma, chlamydia pneumoniae and candida in

CFIDS, finding a way to raise intracellular levels of glutathione has been a top

priority. If you raise the glutathione levels you can stop the replication of

most any intracellular pathogen. (All of the above are intracellular.)

We have found a way to do this – undenatured whey protein. We conducted a six

month study using the first patented bioactive whey product, (editor’s note:

Immunocal), and discovered that it improved glutathione functionality

significantly. Patients who had tested positive for mycoplasma and chlamydia

pneumoniae before treatment were negative afterwards. It also wiped out HHV6,

though only when 2 paks a day were taken, not just one. The traditional

treatment for mycoplasma and chlamydia pneumoniae is 18 months of triple

antibiotics, which can wipe out a patient’s gut flora and leave them a gut

ecology cripple for the rest of their lives. This is a much nicer treatment

approach.

(Editor’s note: Dr. Cheney found ImuPlus to be as effective as Immunocal. In

December of 1999 a new undenatured whey called ImmunoPro appeared on the market

after two years in development. It is two to six times more powerful than the

former products. The latter two products are available from NEEDS,

1-800-634-1380. A 300 gm canister of ImmunoPro is $39.95. Six canisters are $36

each, 12 are $32 each. ImuPlus is $82.50 for sixty packets, 600 gms total.

Dosage: 1 packet (10 gms) twice a day of Immunocal and ImuPlus on an empty

stomach. Some may need to start with lower doses and advance slowly. Others need

4 to 6 packets a day to see improvement. With ImmunoPro start with 1 teaspoon

twice daily and slowly advance to 20 to 40 grams. A 10 gram scoop is provided.)

[Guest guest]

Can anyone tell me what might happen to someone with Candida Related Complex

who tries one of these whey proteins?

- Theresa

I

can help with the whey info. I'm updating Cheney's Treatment Protocol for

our support group's website and I've added a section on whey.

(www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids). I've pasted it below. Take care. Carol

Undenatured Whey: detox and antimicrobial benefits

I believe that the glutathione deficiency found in virtually all patients is

the key problem, particularly over time. Nothing we tried significantly

increasing its functionality. The consistent low to low normal levels of

glutathione in whole blood,

[Guest guest]

According to Dr. Cheney, pwcs who have candidiasis have it due to immune

system dysfunction. If he is correct about this, whey proteins should help

with candidiasis. See the a transcript of the talk Dr. Cheney gave on this

within seaquake.com website. You will have to find the Cheney link at the

site. It's a commercial site, run by Dave who I think is a member

of this list (or at least he was) but you can just ignore the commercial

elements if you want.

[Guest guest]

Laurie is usually at 4-6 packets of whey (Imuplus per day) and the candida overgrowth happened despite with antibiotics. Olive Leaf Extract corrected the overgrowth in a few days.

Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (Netmeeting too)

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From: Inthepresent@... According to Dr. Cheney, pwcs who have candidiasis have it due to immune system dysfunction. If he is correct about this, whey proteins should help with candidiasis