Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 Phil, Steve asked " do the baths provide any benefit --if so what? " Can I add to that - why do them - anyone? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 Prof. Nicolson mycoplasma treatment cites them: " Other Therapies for Chronic Infections One therapy that appears to be useful is oxidative therapy. This can be done at home with peroxide baths(2-4X 16 oz. bottles of 3% hydrogen peroxide in 20 inch bath (or Jacuzzi) with 2 cups of Epsom salt. " from http://www.cfs.inform.dk/Behandling/Nicolson.radio.txt and http://www.immunesupport.com/articles/cfs-fms/cf001.htm etc. The mechanism is that the rickettsia and mycoplasma require low oxygen levels to survive, you raise the oxygen level and they die off (or go dormant <= :-( ) .... hence, Hale's Breathing, Whey (blood pH change) etc. are alternative theraphies... see http://www.folkarts.com/idef/cheney_o2.htm and links from that page for more information... As a PS.... both of us do much better the next day after spending 30 minutes in our hot tub (with ozonator, not chlorine) in the evening... same logic probably applies.... Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC 2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/ 4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/ Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (Netmeeting too) ----- Original Message ----- From: Thorstensen Phil, Steve asked " do the baths provide any benefit --if so what? " Can I add to that - why do them - anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 >Phil, Steve asked " do the baths provide any benefit --if so what? " >Can I add to that - why do them - anyone? Detoxing can occur which relieves the liver and the body from the effects of detoxing through the bloodstream. There are many other types of detoxing baths - here are a couple from memory from Konlees site and a book I have about Chronic Fatigue/Fibromyalgia by Alternative Medicine. I will try to get specifics if requested from this book. Let me know Baking soda/salt: Start with 1/2 cup of each in a hot bath. Stay in until water is cool then take a shower. Chlorine Bleach Can't remember the amt. I think this is all I can remember. I do remember if there is a red ring around the tub, it is mercury. A little fogged, Marty Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 >Phil, Steve asked " do the baths provide any benefit --if so what? " [Patti: ] My favorite is a ginger bath. This one can stop a cold dead in its tracks. Good for when you feel really yucky too. This can be very powerful so be careful and start with small amounts before working up to larger amounts. I personally use one whole cup of dried ginger powder to a tub of hot water. Beginners should probably start with 1/4 cup or less to see if they can handle it. I stay in as long as I can stand it - water cools down but I get warmer and warmer. I immediately wrap up in a large terry robe and hop into bed (impossible to do ANYTHING but sleep) afterwards. You will still feel very warm and rag-doll relaxed even after an hour. If you put too much in the water can be very uncomfortable. Opens up pores so toxins can leave. I've heard that fresh ginger is more powerful, but this has not been my experience. Warning: This is for females only! I forgot about this caveat once and the person asked if I was trying to kill him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 Awe, I thought you were just trying to create an appreciation in males of what a yeast infection felt like... [Patti: ] My favorite is a ginger bath. Warning: This is for females only! I forgot about this caveat once and the person asked if I was trying to kill him. :-) Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 >[Patti: ] My favorite is a ginger bath. This one can stop a cold dead in >its tracks. Good for when you feel really yucky too. This can be very >powerful so be careful and start with small amounts before working up to >larger amounts. I personally use one whole cup of dried ginger powder to a >tub of hot water. (SNIP). You will still feel very warm and rag-doll relaxed even after >an hour. If you put too much in the water can be very uncomfortable. Opens >up pores so toxins can leave. HI, These hot baths are used in lyme pts for same reasons - probably same with peroxide, etc. > >Warning: This is for females only! I forgot about this caveat once and the >person asked if I was trying to kill him. I think I can understand this! LOL! Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2000 Report Share Posted February 9, 2000 Weg, M.D., in Ridgewood, NJ, uses the baths (tel. #: 201-447-5558) and told Dr. Nicolson about it (he likes the treatment). The use of a certain brand of tanning lotion is supposed to promote the skin's utilization of the hydrogen peroxide, but you don't have to use it. His office might give you his protocol. He also uses IV. Thorstensen wrote: > From: " Thorstensen " <jane_doe_press@...> > > Phil, Steve asked " do the baths provide any benefit --if so what? " > Can I add to that - why do them - anyone? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2000 Report Share Posted February 10, 2000 do you really feel better after these baths -- do you feel better right away of do you feel better the next day. steve > :::THE REASON FOR THE NO VITAMINS BEFORE IS THAT THE RECOMMENDED > VITAMINS ARE VERY ANTI-OXIDANT, WHILE THE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE IS VERY > OXIDATIVE. YOU ACTUALLY NEED BOTH, SO I RECOMMEND THAT IT BE DONE IN CYCLES, > FIRST ANTI-OXIDANT VITAMINS 3 HOURS AFTER ANTIBIOTICS, THEN JUST BEFORE > BEDTIME THE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE BATHS. THIS WAY, THE TWO REGIMENS WON'T > COUNTERACT EACH OTHER. > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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