Discouraged

May 17, 2003

Yep I did take pictures, and when I finally reach my goal I will post

them - but they are just too humiliating right now. Thanks for the

encouragement, I will finish this 12 weeks - I just hope i'm doing it

right.

- In , Crystal

<tinkerbell@c...> wrote:

> Not that I have a whole lot of experience with BFL

> but with weight loss I have. DId you take pictures?!

> How are your measurements from day 1?

>

> Have someone unbiased help you out with an opinion.

> Post your pictures here, sometimes we won't see progress

> where others will because they aren't being as critical as

> we are to ourselves.

>

> That being said, I always give myself, " Well I'll go one more

> week and if I don't see results, I quit. " LOL, I never quit

> and I always end up seeing the results.

>

> I hope this helps! Stay outta the fridge!

> Tink

>

> whirllwindd wrote:

>

> > Hi all - I'm writing to whine and complain because if I don't i'm

> > going to go eat the entire contents of my refrigerator (ROFL). I

am

> > almost done with my 4th week, and I don't see any results. I lost

> > some water weight gain in the first week, but I have not seen the

> > scale budge since, and I just took my measurements and I think my

fat

> > got bigger from last week (lol). Ok i may be exagerating a

little, my

> > pants are slightly fitting a little tiny bit better. I thought I

> > might be eating too much so I started watching my calories and i'm

> > eating between 1200 - and 1300 calories a day. I have missed

about 5

> > work outs since I started, but have been really giving it all i've

> > got. I managed to pass up chocolate eclaires today woo hoo for

me. I

> > guess I'm discouraged because I have never had this much problem

> > losing weight before. A year ago i did the BLF for 6 weeks and

lost

> > 10 pounds. I know I'm building muscles and all that, but i'm still

> > discouraged. I thought that i would see something after 4 weeks.

> > Anyone else feeling the same way right now? Anyone else been there

> > and have broken through? I could really use the encouragement.

> > Thanks all.

> >

May 17, 2003

I am at the end of week 11 and I feel your pain. My encouragement to

you is stick with it. If you don't keep doing it, you certainly

won't see any improvements BUT if you you just keep at it you will

see results. Immediately...no but over time in the most healthy way

possible with long term results, yes.

I have had 2 really bad weeks out of my 11 (TTHOM); just wanted to

sit on the sofa and eat, but not quit. I have lost only 3 lbs scale

weight but I know more inches and added at least 7 lbs of muscle. I

can see it in pictures that have been taken of me. I look firmer, but

I don't see that in the mirror.

For me, this is much more about me taking control over my body and

how I care for it. It is a lifetime project, not just a 12 week

stint and the scale does not dictate what I know to be right. You

could do any number of crazy things to see the number change, but

will it last and could you live with? You can do this if you choose

to (it is totally Mission Possible!) Do you choose to, one meal, one

rep at a time? I hope so.

Leashia

May 17, 2003

> Yep I did take pictures, and when I finally reach my goal I will

post

> them - but they are just too humiliating right now. Thanks for the

> encouragement, I will finish this 12 weeks - I just hope i'm doing

it

> right.

>

***********If not, you learn now, then do it again next time with

improvements in place. Right?

debra

February 17, 2005

----- Original Message -----

From: <jillk2136@...>

> again after eating 1800 everyday I have stayed the same. I feel like my

metabolism is really screwed up and I am going to have to take it down to

1500 or lower to see results.

Please stay at 1800 for 2 more weeks before you drop your calories. Try to

be patient. After 2 weeks if you still don't lose then drop your calories

to 1700 and see what happens. I'm a firm believer that most diets fail

because people drop their calories too low.

Your ex sounds like a total loser. Working 2 jobs must be very hard. How

old are your kids?

Ann

February 17, 2005

Jill,

1500 sounds way too low. And if you don't get ENOUGH calories your

body will think you are starving and retain everything, clutching onto

it like a greedy miser. Then you won't loose weight.

If you are doing a lot of standing, your body may be retaining water.

Do you see a lot of swelling when you get home? Does your skin feel

tight? Try flushing your body with a lot of fluids the next week and

see if anything comes off.

jillk2136@... wrote:

Hi all,

I am discouraged this week as I just don't seem able to

loose. Last week after eating 1800 calories everyday I actually gained

a pound! This week again after eating 1800 everyday I have stayed the

same. I feel like my metabolism is really screwed up and I am going to

have to take it down to 1500 or lower to see results.

Admittedly I have not exercised but this is due to my work

schedule. I have been leaving the house at 7:00 each morning and not

getting home until 10:30 or so each night, standing on my feet all day.

My only break has been driving from my first job to my second job. My

night job is serving in a busy restaurant so if anyone is familiar with

that you know you are running all night long. I have to work every

opportunity I get because my ex is one of these who does'nt think he

needs to support his children. 50 years old and he would rather lie up

in his mothers house than get a job so he does'nt have to pay me. But I

digress...

Anyway, I am very discouraged and not sure what to do next.

I guess I need to cut calories even further. I hope everyone is having

a great week! Jill

Don't compromise yourself. You are all you've got. - Betty Ford

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February 17, 2005

---Hi Jill:

Ditto to what Ann said.I wouldn't jump to reducing calories too

much just yet.

<<<<<<<<<,, I have stayed the same. I feel like my

> metabolism is really screwed up and I am going to have to take it

down to 1500

<<<<<<<<<<<<

>My only break has been

> driving from my first job to my second job. My night job is

serving in a busy

> restaurant so if anyone is familiar with that you know you are

running all

> night long.

>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Jill , isn't running all night long exercise??

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I have to work every opportunity I get because my ex is one of

these

> who does'nt think he needs to support his children. 50 years old

and he would

> rather lie up in his mothers house than get a job so he does'nt

have to pay

> me. But I digress..

Not really digressing, my friend!! You are under enormous stress.

May I suggest 20 minutes a day of meditating: sitting somewhere,

anywhere, close your eyes and concentrate on your breathing. Maybe

this is not your thing, but I find it to be quite helpful

..

<<<<<,

It's understandable that you are discouraged. Keep writing.

Faye

February 17, 2005

Keep your head up. It will happen. Are you drinking your water? Maybe the exercise will make a difference. What calorie program are you on?

NHMom to Abby Liz 10/25/94 Anne 7/1/99

March 9, 2005

Faye Im with ya on the discouragement. I feel like giving up today! As far

as the muffins...i couldnt even make my own cause I know I will sit there

and eat all of them. I love muffins!!! Thank goodness Im not a pizza

eater..so I dont have to worry about that much!

Good job with the exercise! for some reason I cant get started with that. I

am always soooo tired and no energy...I dont know whats wrong with me!

discouraged

>

> I have been getting a little discouraged today: Ann leaving

> the group for a while, all of our struggles. I know, for me , I just

> cannot lose 150 pounds alone without support!! so, I'm trying very

> hard to keep connected to this group! I feel care and concern for all

> of you, and feel that concern coming right back : )

> Thanks to Sue and ? for the info about home made muffins and modified

> pizza! I know there must be an alternative to the Gigantic store

> bought muffins, so thanks for the info.

> As for pizza, when I let myself have pizza, I will have the real

> thing. But I frequently melt low fat cheese on ww matzo or bread. ; I

> just put pizza in its own category!

>

> All I can report to the group today is that I exercised today: 30

> minutes of a Sansone video and 5 minutes of yoga stretches.

> I'm really proud of myself for exercising today; it felt harder than

> usual; I felt sore everywhere, but I trudged through. When I

> exercise, I always feel better about DOING SOMETHING positive.

>

> Last evening was a fiasco!! just plain overate, big time!! I wrote

> down everything I ate but did not do calorie count,. I have a pretty

> good idea!!!

> Today is a new day. I'm recording, so far,

> a late night of

> teaching tonight, I'm intending to not binge!!!

> Take care everyone.

>

> Faye

>

> The unseen force that created the universe is a most invaluable thing.

> Its progress lies in simple everyday happenings.

> Any method or technique that is too complex will only give rise to

> complications.

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>

March 9, 2005

Faye,

I respect you for keeping up with the exercise. Mine fell off

completely.

Since you have been recording your intake, maybe you can analyse

your diet nutritionally like Cherilyn did. Perhaps a mineral is

lacking, and that is contributing to the binges.

Since I have been eating 6 servings veggies and 4 fruits a day, I

have zero cravings. When my food is out of control, I rarely eat

any produce.

KimB

>

> All I can report to the group today is that I exercised today: 30

> minutes of a Sansone video and 5 minutes of yoga stretches.

> I'm really proud of myself for exercising today; it felt harder

than

> usual; I felt sore everywhere, but I trudged through. When I

> exercise, I always feel better about DOING SOMETHING positive.

>

> Last evening was a fiasco!! just plain overate, big time!! I wrote

> down everything I ate but did not do calorie count,. I have a

pretty

> good idea!!!

> Today is a new day. I'm recording, so far,

> a late night of

> teaching tonight, I'm intending to not binge!!!

> Take care everyone.

>

> Faye

March 9, 2005

Faye remember rome was not built in a day. Try and remember 10% at a time is best no matter what program.

May 28, 2010

I'm so sorry you are feeling discouraged dear. There is no doubt in my mind or heart that this is one of the most discouraging processes anyone can go through. Discouraged

I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores. I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible. Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

May 28, 2010

For the environment I have found activated mms1 very effective, leave the rooms

while treating. Also bathing in the mms1 helped me big time.

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set a 10 drop mix of activated MMS on a saucer in the middle of a closed room

and let the ClO2 gas arise out of the liquid naturally. Do not add any water in

this case. Do not exceed the 10 drop suggestion. It's more effective and safer

to do several repeated room cleansings every hour than to release too much ClO2

at one time into a closed room. The odor does not linger and will not harm

cushions, curtains, or lampshades. After 2 hours, the odor will have sacrificed

itself and any room odors will be gone. If the normal small from shoes and

clothes in a closet are still present, then a second ClO2 saucer or cup should

be repeated.

ClO2 gas is a powerful deodorizer and germicidal agent. Drifting through the

air, it will eventually kill all germs in the air and in furniture fabrics.

After about two hours, the ClO2 gas disappears. It deteriorates into two

molecules of water vapor. Activated MMS can restore lawn chairs thought to be

ruined by skunk spray. Scrub the MMS mixture into car carpets, smelly shoes, and

under arms. Will the whole house start to smell like a motel swimming pool? No.

Not possible.

When using MMS as a room deodorizer or fungus eliminator, close the room doors

and remove all pets and birds from the room for one or two hours.

>

> I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores.

I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible.

Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks

that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look

at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there

anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me

on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first

month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I

feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

>

May 28, 2010

JoI know this can be unnerving and overwhelming. It can make you feel as if you are being defeated! But I take what you are saying as a positive thing!! You are starting to defeat them. I think that everyone you pull junk out of your skin you are gaining ground!! I am using the newhope with sulphur and am almost symptom free. I think one of the turning points for me was last summer getting on the anu water. At that time I had terrible lesions on my legs that would not heal. Inside the lesions were this weird clear to opaque worm like thing and it definitely wasn't microscopic. When views from a magnifying glass would make bulging movements as if it ere trying to break out of the encasement. After a few Months on the anu water the lesions began to heal. Was that coincidental? Was I just getting past this part of the process?? I don't know. I question everything in

this disease. But deep down I believe it was the anu. I have had less and less symptoms and the things from my skin and I still can feel an itch and scratch down a few layers of skin and there is either a tiny sand creature or sometimes it has a softer feel bit both are very intact and hard to break apart. My point is you may be getting better ss the things are getting smaller. Mine are now smaller and fewer. I am on my second round of anu and get occasional bites but they are not fierce and some crawling. But hey, people live with waaay more than that so I can definitely take it. One day there will be a complete cure for this but in the meantime I'm gonna live my life and I feel so blessed that I'm not suffering as much as others are, and very much empathize with those that are. But I think there is definite light at the end of the tunnel and I so hope that you are close to seeing that light!! God bless! To a speedy recovery!Sent

from my iPhoneOn May 28, 2010, at 6:33 PM, "jo_btc" <jo_btc@...> wrote:

I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores. I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible. Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

May 28, 2010

Yes I feel bad for those who are newer to this. It is a shock and discouragement indeed. I still often feel isolated with my problem. Nobody that I am/was in physical contact with knows what I have/had except my ex-wife and a counsellor who thinks I am imagining things. It is lonely sometimes, but we are all here to chat with.

J

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 7:40:23 PMSubject: Re: Discouraged

I'm so sorry you are feeling discouraged dear. There is no doubt in my mind or heart that this is one of the most discouraging processes anyone can go through. Discouraged

I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores. I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible. Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

May 28, 2010

Thanks for the positive outlook in your post Rush. How much anu water did you

drink each day and how often? Did you change your diet? IR sauna's? 3-pt plan?

Anything else significant you can think of in your treatment? WHat do you do in

your environment?

Thanks,

z3

>

> I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores.

I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible.

Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks

that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look at

them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there

anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me

on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first

month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I

feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

>

May 29, 2010

Hey FritoI have about 2 oz of the Anu water twice a day. Ther version I'm taking now is I think they call it either concentrated or extra strength (sorry I'm upstairs with a ruptured disk and don't want to walk downstairs to look at bottle). I did use an fir sauna but at the time of healing and since then I no longer have access to one. I didn't change my diet, but don't eat or drink alot of sugar. I was doing alot of things to my environment like mms 2 in saucers but was having some extreme panic attacks and I don't know if that was causing them or if my OCD about all of this was the cause. I was making myself crazy, taking several long baths washing clothes bagging everything, I guess cat chasing it's tail basically described me. I started the anu water without any real expectation at all because at that point all my high expectations had left me so disapponted. I had just finished a few weeks

on the mms 1, so maybe that had something to do with the start of my healing. And again I'm not sure what it was. But along with those things I just had to stop the complete focus I had on this. I finally said ok I feel some crawling, have a few bumps. Big deal, some people are out there living with so much worse. Someone will figure all of this out one day and they will let me know about it. But in the meantime I'm going out and live my life. I think I had heard a post from you Frito and you were free of this and mentioned that you were out enjoying life and that had stuck in my mind as well I don't mean to make light of this and granted my attiitude changed when those awful lesions started to heal but I kind of quit caring about this so much. Stopped all the baths, now I just normally shower once a day. I always wear clean clothes but only wash sheets once maybe twice a week. I notice when I do become anxious or stressed my symptoms

increase. I couldn't do alot of the things that people on this site are doing to their homes because I am trying to sell mine, I have beautiful hardwoods etc and it would make it very difficult to sell with all that crap sprayed everywhere. I feel very blessed and fortunate that my symptoms now are so minimal and my heart goes out to those that are suffering so much. I think it was Wayne Dyer that said what you focus on is what you attract. I don't think any of us brought this into our lives but it showed up. I think though for myself once it was here I focused way too much on it and once I quit it didn't have such a hold on me. So that and the Anu lol. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2010, at 12:14 AM, "Zoe" <zoe_z3@...> wrote:

Thanks for the positive outlook in your post Rush. How much anu water did you drink each day and how often? Did you change your diet? IR sauna's? 3-pt plan? Anything else significant you can think of in your treatment? WHat do you do in your environment?

Thanks,

z3

>

> I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores. I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible. Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

>

May 29, 2010

Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2010, at 3:29 AM, Rush <rushtessman@...> wrote:Sorry Zoe I meant to address this post to you!

Hey FritoI have about 2 oz of the Anu water twice a day. Ther version I'm taking now is I think they call it either concentrated or extra strength (sorry I'm upstairs with a ruptured disk and don't want to walk downstairs to look at bottle). I did use an fir sauna but at the time of healing and since then I no longer have access to one. I didn't change my diet, but don't eat or drink alot of sugar. I was doing alot of things to my environment like mms 2 in saucers but was having some extreme panic attacks and I don't know if that was causing them or if my OCD about all of this was the cause. I was making myself crazy, taking several long baths washing clothes bagging everything, I guess cat chasing it's tail basically described me. I started the anu water without any real expectation at all because at that point all my high expectations had left me so disapponted. I had just finished a few weeks

on the mms 1, so maybe that had something to do with the start of my healing. And again I'm not sure what it was. But along with those things I just had to stop the complete focus I had on this. I finally said ok I feel some crawling, have a few bumps. Big deal, some people are out there living with so much worse. Someone will figure all of this out one day and they will let me know about it. But in the meantime I'm going out and live my life. I think I had heard a post from you Frito and you were free of this and mentioned that you were out enjoying life and that had stuck in my mind as well I don't mean to make light of this and granted my attiitude changed when those awful lesions started to heal but I kind of quit caring about this so much. Stopped all the baths, now I just normally shower once a day. I always wear clean clothes but only wash sheets once maybe twice a week. I notice when I do become anxious or stressed my symptoms

increase. I couldn't do alot of the things that people on this site are doing to their homes because I am trying to sell mine, I have beautiful hardwoods etc and it would make it very difficult to sell with all that crap sprayed everywhere. I feel very blessed and fortunate that my symptoms now are so minimal and my heart goes out to those that are suffering so much. I think it was Wayne Dyer that said what you focus on is what you attract. I don't think any of us brought this into our lives but it showed up. I think though for myself once it was here I focused way too much on it and once I quit it didn't have such a hold on me. So that and the Anu lol. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2010, at 12:14 AM, "Zoe" <zoe_z3 > wrote:

Thanks for the positive outlook in your post Rush. How much anu water did you drink each day and how often? Did you change your diet? IR sauna's? 3-pt plan? Anything else significant you can think of in your treatment? WHat do you do in your environment?

Thanks,

z3

>

> I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my pores. I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is terrible. Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty big specks that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have to look at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is there anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to put me on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the first month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but I feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

>

May 29, 2010

sorry to hear about your back. A ruptured disk sounds painful. Will it heal

okay on its own or require surgery?

Sending you healing energy,

z3

> >

> > I started using the New Hope soap and it seems there is junk in all my

pores. I am so discouraged. I know that some would come out but this is

terrible. Remember I have been using stuff that was for scabies. I had pretty

big specks that were alive and moving and biting. Now they are so small you have

to look at them through a magnifying glass. Have you guys had this happen. Is

there anything I can do to help change my enviroment and me. Lynn is going to

put me on the 3 point program. She and I ordered all that I will need for the

first month. Are there any of you on this? I am sorry I am full of questions but

I feel you guys know where I am coming from. I thank you for helping me.

> >

>

May 29, 2010

The New Hope II soap with sulphur is great for helping the crawling and pulling

" stuff " out of your skin. I too have alot in my skin. I am being very patient

about letting it come out. I feel day by day and week by week I am getting

better. Keep using the soap, twice a day if your skin is tolerating the sulphur.

You should email Trish from ESP botanicals and ask her if her new shampoo/body

wash with 7/8 percent sulphur is on her website. I couldn't find it on her site

to give you a link. But I have a bottle of it and it is great for your hair, it

is keeping my head clear.

I also have done most of the three point plan from the herbal healer. It is a

great program, if you do it all, and add her Pau D'Arco tincture to it. It has

really helped me to feel much better.