Re: Excessive stomach gas/burping - can anyone help?

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy, I'm so pleased for you, it must be great. I wish I had had

your surgeon! I had my myotomy last year and it hasn't been

successful. My surgeon told me he did this type of operation once

every 2 years, but I was told he was an excellent surgeon so had

faith. I'm assuming he didn't open the muscle nearly enough as I'm

still filling up extremely quickly on very little food and I don't

have reflux, even though I'm not on anti-reflux med. and he didn't

do a wrap because he thought that would aggravate the early satiety.

Not very romantic, I know, but since the op. (over 12 months ago)

I've had a gassy stomach and excessive burping daily, sometimes

every few seconds, for hours, which hasn't responded to anything.

Have other members had this and are there any suggestions to ease

it? It's quite uncomfortable every day.

Jane, Leicestershire, England

> > >

> > > Hi All

> > >

> > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give

> > encourgaemnent

> > > to anyone needing it.

> > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last

check up

> > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op. We

are

> > both

> > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he did

advise

> > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.

> > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely anything

and

> > the

> > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if there was

> > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if

theres

> > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems or if

there

> > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same answers -

so

> > > heres hoping folks.

> > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he cut

where

> > > and how long etc...

> > >

> > > I will not vanish though and will pop up when I see I can help

like

> > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for

support on

> > > any level.

> > >

> > > Andy

> > >

> > > Yorkshire, England

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi JaneSorry to hear about your problems. My surgeon - Ackroyd - also has his own private clinic that specialises in gastric problems mainly obesity related but its all in the same area and I had complete confidence in him.

Only thing I have noticed is that when you have a fizzy drink, like I am doing now, the gases come back straight away instead of building up to a larger burp but I just hold my hand in front of my mouth and let it out quietly and politely.

Andy2008/6/12 jane.cooper34 <jane.cooper34@...>:

Hi Andy, I'm so pleased for you, it must be great. I wish I had had

your surgeon! I had my myotomy last year and it hasn't been

successful. My surgeon told me he did this type of operation once

every 2 years, but I was told he was an excellent surgeon so had

faith. I'm assuming he didn't open the muscle nearly enough as I'm

still filling up extremely quickly on very little food and I don't

have reflux, even though I'm not on anti-reflux med. and he didn't

do a wrap because he thought that would aggravate the early satiety.

Not very romantic, I know, but since the op. (over 12 months ago)

I've had a gassy stomach and excessive burping daily, sometimes

every few seconds, for hours, which hasn't responded to anything.

Have other members had this and are there any suggestions to ease

it? It's quite uncomfortable every day.

Jane, Leicestershire, England

> > >

> > > Hi All

> > >

> > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give

> > encourgaemnent

> > > to anyone needing it.

> > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last

check up

> > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op. We

are

> > both

> > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he did

advise

> > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.

> > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely anything

and

> > the

> > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if there was

> > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if

theres

> > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems or if

there

> > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same answers -

so

> > > heres hoping folks.

> > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he cut

where

> > > and how long etc...

> > >

> > > I will not vanish though and will pop up when I see I can help

like

> > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for

support on

> > > any level.

> > >

> > > Andy

> > >

> > > Yorkshire, England

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy. Wish mine could be managed so delicately and easily! I

never have fizzy drinks. I've just had some chocolate and the sound-

effects are delightful! Just about anything and everyhing I

eat/drink produces it, all day. Did you have a wrap? I wish I'd

known about your surgeon first.

Jane

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All

> > > > >

> > > > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give

> > > > encourgaemnent

> > > > > to anyone needing it.

> > > > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last

> > check up

> > > > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op.

We

> > are

> > > > both

> > > > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he

did

> > advise

> > > > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.

> > > > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely

anything

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if

there was

> > > > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if

> > theres

> > > > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems

or if

> > there

> > > > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same

answers -

> > so

> > > > > heres hoping folks.

> > > > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he

cut

> > where

> > > > > and how long etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > I will not vanish though and will pop up when I see I can

help

> > like

> > > > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for

> > support on

> > > > > any level.

> > > > >

> > > > > Andy

> > > > >

> > > > > Yorkshire, England

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes he did mention a dor wrap I think they call it to help protect the front were the cuts are made in the muscles.Andy2008/6/12 jane.cooper34 <jane.cooper34@...>:

Hi Andy. Wish mine could be managed so delicately and easily! I

never have fizzy drinks. I've just had some chocolate and the sound-

effects are delightful! Just about anything and everyhing I

eat/drink produces it, all day. Did you have a wrap? I wish I'd

known about your surgeon first.

Jane

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All

> > > > >

> > > > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give

> > > > encourgaemnent

> > > > > to anyone needing it.

> > > > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last

> > check up

> > > > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op.

We

> > are

> > > > both

> > > > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he

did

> > advise

> > > > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.

> > > > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely

anything

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if

there was

> > > > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if

> > theres

> > > > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems

or if

> > there

> > > > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same

answers -

> > so

> > > > > heres hoping folks.

> > > > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he

cut

> > where

> > > > > and how long etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > I will not vanish though and will pop up when I see I can

help

> > like

> > > > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for

> > support on

> > > > > any level.

> > > > >

> > > > > Andy

> > > > >

> > > > > Yorkshire, England

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane

What do you eat? Do you eat anything rich or fried? Could be either of these upseting your stomach as I have the same problem and ended up having an endoscopy last month. They found severe inflamation and told me that I would have to perhaps watch what I eat.

Re: Excessive stomach gas/burping - can anyone help?

Hi Andy, I'm so pleased for you, it must be great. I wish I had had your surgeon! I had my myotomy last year and it hasn't been successful. My surgeon told me he did this type of operation once every 2 years, but I was told he was an excellent surgeon so had faith. I'm assuming he didn't open the muscle nearly enough as I'm still filling up extremely quickly on very little food and I don't have reflux, even though I'm not on anti-reflux med. and he didn't do a wrap because he thought that would aggravate the early satiety.Not very romantic, I know, but since the op. (over 12 months ago) I've had a gassy stomach and excessive burping daily, sometimes every few seconds, for hours, which hasn't responded to anything. Have other members had this and are there any suggestions to ease it? It's quite uncomfortable every day.Jane, Leicestershire, England> > >> > > Hi All> > >> > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give> > encourgaemnent> > > to anyone needing it.> > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last check up> > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op. We are> > both> > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he did advise> > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.> > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely anything and> > the> > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if there

was> > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if theres> > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems or if there> > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same answers - so> > > heres hoping folks.> > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he cut where> > > and how long etc...> > >> > > I will not vanish though and will pop up when I see I can help like> > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for support on> > > any level.> > >> > > Andy> > >> > > Yorkshire, England> > >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi , thanks for your email.

I've kept a food/symptom diary several times in the last 13 months,

but can't see any pattern. I eat anything (just very little at a

time because I fill up so quickly), but the food/drink that seem to

aggravate the excessive burping one day don't seem to the next, so

it's been difficult to know what to do. I gave up bread for several

days, left off caffeinated coffee, etc., no difference. I have

decaf. drinks, mostly. I have a sweet tooth, which I do indulge,

and I noticed last night it was worse after eating choc., but

another day it's not necessarily a problem with that. The only way

I can alleviate it is by lying back, until I eat/drink again, then

it invariably returns.

I'm just assuming that, although the surgeon didn't cut enough

muscle to alleviate the early satiety, he's obviously cut it in such

a way that it is causing the gassy problem, as I didn't have it pre-

op.

My barium swallow in December just mentioned delayed relaxation at

the gastro-oesoph. junction, nothing about the cause of the gas.

What foods aggravate your problem, ?

Jane

> > > >

> > > > Hi All

> > > >

> > > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give

> > > encourgaemnent

> > > > to anyone needing it.

> > > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last

> check up

> > > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op.

We

> are

> > > both

> > > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he

did

> advise

> > > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.

> > > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely

anything

> and

> > > the

> > > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if there

was

> > > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if

> theres

> > > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems or

if

> there

> > > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same

answers -

> so

> > > > heres hoping folks.

> > > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he

cut

> where

> > > > and how long etc...

> > > >

> > > > I will not vanish though and will pop up when I see I can

help

> like

> > > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for

> support on

> > > > any level.

> > > >

> > > > Andy

> > > >

> > > > Yorkshire, England

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Jane wrote:

> I've had a gassy stomach and excessive burping daily, sometimes

> every few seconds, for hours, which hasn't responded to anything.

There are three main causes of gas, swallowing air, carbonation, and the

food and microbes that ferment them in the gut. Swallowing air can be a

big one and people do it without noticing that they do. You should know

if it is carbonation. The microbes and food often can be confirmed by

changing food. Other than by changing food is hard to change the

microbes but eating live cultures may help. If the esophagus or stomach

is emptying slowly food there will have more time to produce gas there.

notan

[Guest guest]

Jane wrote:

> ...the food/drink that seem to

> aggravate the excessive burping one day don't seem to the next, so

> it's been difficult to know what to do. ...

Are you eliminating food in groups. If it is carbohydrates then not

eating bread while still eating rice or potatoes may not prove much.

Another way to approach this is to eat just one food group at a time and

see if you can learn anything there. If so you may be able to find a

group in the group that is the problem. Also consider that if food is

being retained somewhere the problem may still be with food from earlier.

notan

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane

Like you some foods react differently. What I eat one day that can cause gas is ok the next. Barmy is what my doc says. But seriously rich food or mainly fried food tends to set the gas off a lot more so I tend to leave these alone unless I warn others what I am about to eat will give me gas and to beware but a little of what you fancy wont do you any harm but if it gives you excesive gas who cares. Good luck.

Re: Excessive stomach gas/burping - can anyone help?

Hi , thanks for your email. I've kept a food/symptom diary several times in the last 13 months, but can't see any pattern. I eat anything (just very little at a time because I fill up so quickly), but the food/drink that seem to aggravate the excessive burping one day don't seem to the next, so it's been difficult to know what to do. I gave up bread for several days, left off caffeinated coffee, etc., no difference. I have decaf. drinks, mostly. I have a sweet tooth, which I do indulge, and I noticed last night it was worse after eating choc., but another day it's not necessarily a problem with that. The only way I can alleviate it is by lying back, until I eat/drink again, then it invariably returns.I'm just assuming that, although the surgeon didn't cut enough muscle to alleviate the early satiety, he's obviously cut it in such a way that it is causing the gassy problem, as I

didn't have it pre-op. My barium swallow in December just mentioned delayed relaxation at the gastro-oesoph. junction, nothing about the cause of the gas.What foods aggravate your problem, ?Jane> > > >> > > > Hi All> > > >> > > > Just a little update for anyone interested and to give> > > encourgaemnent> > > > to anyone needing it.> > > > I had my myotomy back in January and yesterday had my last > check up> > > > and was formally discharged by the surgeon who did the op. We > are> > >

both> > > > extremely pleased with the outcome so far and although he did > advise> > > > me it could come back its a 10 - 20% chance.> > > > I have had no issues whatsoever in eating absolutely anything > and> > > the> > > > surgeons advise was to lead a normal life. I asked if there was> > > > anything I should be wary of and he said no, also asked if > theres> > > > anything i should do to try and stop any future problems or if > there> > > > is anything that will make it worse and got the same answers - > so> > > > heres hoping folks.> > > > I even asked about the actual op and he explained what he cut > where> > > > and how long etc...> > > >> > > > I will not vanish though and will

pop up when I see I can help > like> > > > you all helped me - it really is a great place to be for > support on> > > > any level.> > > >> > > > Andy> > > >> > > > Yorkshire, England> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

Many thanks for your messages, Notan and . This is the 2nd

time I've written this, but I don't think it's arrived, so ignore if

I've duplicated.

No, I haven't eliminated food in groups and think I do need to adopt

a more structured approach. The key thing to me is that I never had

this problem pre-op. so I'm assuming it's all down to how the

surgeon cut the muscle, and am anticipating having to put up with

this ad infinitum, therefore. He apparently told my consultant G.E.

that air regurgitation was to be expected, given the nature of the

op. - he didn't tell me that though, pre-op. I didn't have a wrap

because of early satiety, I suppose that would've helped the gas

situation. If I can i.d. foods which aggravate it, however, that

would be helpful, as the sheer volume is uncomfortable daily. I've

a f/up appt. with my cons. G.E. on Wed. so will ask for referral to

a dietitian.

I've done my research on the net and am careful with air intake (as

far as you can be) when swallowing and have had the bacterial yogs.,

etc., but I can't find a pattern and the only thing that reduces it

temporarily is leaning/lying back for a while.

Jane

> > ...the food/drink that seem to

> > aggravate the excessive burping one day don't seem to the next,

so

> > it's been difficult to know what to do. ...

>

> Are you eliminating food in groups. If it is carbohydrates then

not

> eating bread while still eating rice or potatoes may not prove

much.

> Another way to approach this is to eat just one food group at a

time and

> see if you can learn anything there. If so you may be able to find

a

> group in the group that is the problem. Also consider that if food

is

> being retained somewhere the problem may still be with food from

earlier.

>

> notan

>

[Guest guest]

Jane wrote:

> ...I never had

> this problem pre-op. so I'm assuming it's all down to how the

> surgeon cut the muscle, and am anticipating having to put up with

> this ad infinitum, therefore. He apparently told my consultant G.E.

> that air regurgitation was to be expected, given the nature of the

> op.

He may have said that, but there are a lot of people in this group that

have had the myotomy and are not complaining about air regurgitation.

You would expect regurgitation to be more of a problem before the

myotomy when the blockage at the LES would make it hard to get air into

the stomach where it could pass out the other end.

I told my surgeon on a fallow-up visit that I had a gurgle in my gut I

was not used to. This was explained as being because I was not used to

so much air in my food making it to my stomach where it was now passing

into the rest of the gut. I have a wrap so it may be harder for my air

to produce a burp.

The myotomy is not creating the gas. The gas has to come from somewhere

or be produced by something. It may be letting more come up rather than

pass the other way. I would guess that lying down is causing it to pass

the other way.

It is possible that when you had your surgery that antibiotics may have

changed the mix of microbes in your gut.

notan