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It usually starts to work in a couple hours for me. Glucosamine can take

several days to a week or more. Because of new side effects from Vioxx

coming out, IMO I wouldn't recommend more than 25 mg. per day, but most

prescriptions were not more than that.

does it make yu sick at all or dizzy weak shaky?

I was told Glycosomine takes up to 3 months to work....

when it grinds then it

> gets inflamed big time ... or does it start grinding once its inflamed? >

That may actually be a very good question, and given the variabiltiy of CP,

could be a different answer for different people. :-/

lol ... ya and i never thought of that until now? i need to find out my answer

.... probably a bit of both too

hey mike? what does MT under your name stand for?

Mike

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> by the way about my doctor prescribing Glycosomine to me - she never

> suggested it she gave me anti-inflammatory but i asked her opinion on

> using other things like " Shark Cartlidge " and some other names i had from

> Health Store and she suggested that if i was going to try something the

> only one she can vouch at all for would be Glycosomine as it has been

> clinically proven to help ... and none of the other ones i had mentioned

> had been ... Glycosomine is also cheaper than others ... :)

> hey theres a question?

> Anyone tried Shark Cartlidge and other Health Store methods ?

Glucosamine is generally mixed with condroitin (shark or trochea cartilage),

although the combo isn't as well proven to work as glucosamine alone.

Incidentally the supplement I use has the combo in it. Always look for a

supplement with 1500 mg. of glucosamine per day....most have that. You

might ask your doctor for recommendations on brands. Glucosamine isn't as

well regulated by the government and there are some brands that aren't as

good.

>

> i saw an infomercial on TV that claims Copper helps and that Glycosomine

> does not even help without copper for the building of cartlidge....

> lol.... ???????????/

That could be, but if your body already has enough available copper, more

copper may just hurt you.

Mike

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>

>

>

> It usually starts to work in a couple hours for me. Glucosamine can take

> several days to a week or more. Because of new side effects from Vioxx

> coming out, IMO I wouldn't recommend more than 25 mg. per day, but most

> prescriptions were not more than that.

>

>

> does it make yu sick at all or dizzy weak shaky?

Not at all.

>

> I was told Glycosomine takes up to 3 months to work....

I was told the same thing, but the research I found says it will work within

a couple weeks.....if it is going to work.

>

>

> when it grinds then it

>> gets inflamed big time ... or does it start grinding once its inflamed? >

>

> That may actually be a very good question, and given the variabiltiy of

> CP,

> could be a different answer for different people. :-/

>

> lol ... ya and i never thought of that until now? i need to find out my

> answer ... probably a bit of both too

>

>

> hey mike? what does MT under your name stand for?

Montana :)

Mike

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yeah my doctor said that the brand did not really matter but i know i read

somewhere that it can matter and i forget why? i was taking the combo too ...

thx for help

nite

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Re: TENS

> by the way about my doctor prescribing Glycosomine to me - she never

> suggested it she gave me anti-inflammatory but i asked her opinion on

> using other things like " Shark Cartlidge " and some other names i had from

> Health Store and she suggested that if i was going to try something the

> only one she can vouch at all for would be Glycosomine as it has been

> clinically proven to help ... and none of the other ones i had mentioned

> had been ... Glycosomine is also cheaper than others ... :)

> hey theres a question?

> Anyone tried Shark Cartlidge and other Health Store methods ?

Glucosamine is generally mixed with condroitin (shark or trochea cartilage),

although the combo isn't as well proven to work as glucosamine alone.

Incidentally the supplement I use has the combo in it. Always look for a

supplement with 1500 mg. of glucosamine per day....most have that. You

might ask your doctor for recommendations on brands. Glucosamine isn't as

well regulated by the government and there are some brands that aren't as

good.

>

> i saw an infomercial on TV that claims Copper helps and that Glycosomine

> does not even help without copper for the building of cartlidge....

> lol.... ???????????/

That could be, but if your body already has enough available copper, more

copper may just hurt you.

Mike

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I'm following this thread about the Russian machine and wondering -

has anyone here tried or heard of anyone who has tried using TENS?

A google search of TENS and achalasia together produced this article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed & list_uids=1864193 & cmd=Re\

trieve & indexed=google

which seems to suggest that it does lower the pressure on the LES, but

I'm so recently diagnosed and don't understand if that translates to

actual relief or alternative to surgery.

Can anyone translate this article into English? Notan?

Thanks!

Donna

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The TENS basically stimulates the nervous system into releasing

Vasoactive intestinal peptide (VIP) which helps relax the LES

pressure. The problem with people with achalasia is, the nerves are

damaged/gone so really TENS helps if there are some nerves still left.

If you look at the research, it clearly helped

'TENS produced a significant reduction (P less than 0.01) in LES

resting pressure from the mean value 56 +/- 6.4 mm Hg to 42.3 +/- 6.4

mm Hg;'

Even still 42.3 is too much, it would still be difficult to swallow.

The SCENAR is what we all should be looking into for now but since

there isn't much research on it in this part of the world, the only

person who has experienc treating achalasia with Scenar therapy is Dr

Honand, so really he's the guy we should be finding out as much as

possible from.

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Hi :

I use a " Tens Unit " for back pain -  " Tens " stands for " Transcutaneous Electrical

Nerve Stimulator "  - is somewhat small - apprxoimately 6 " by 3 " rectangular

shaped made mostly of plastic (sort of looks like a now old-fashioned " walkman " )

- uses two double-A batteries - and has two sets of wire leads that attach to

the Tens unit on one end and to you via electrodes on the other (electrodes with

the sitcky square patches).  You place the electrodes from a couple to 10 or so

inches apart from each other.  The nerves/muscles  in between two electrodes are

stimulated at whatever intensity level you choose (from pulsing to constant, and

light to intense stimulation).  For me, I have found the Tens Unit has provided

some pain relief from various injuries I've endured.  I believe the theory of

using a Tens Unit is that it causes the nerves and thus muscles to relax via the

electrical stimulation.  I can't say that it operates in any exercise capacity.

Note I am an SMA carrier (my son Bryce has SMA) - thus, I would recommend you

check with a Neurologist familiar with SMA  before using the Tens Unit.  You

could check with your local Neurologist and/or via email w/one or more of the

the doctors noted on the following list of amSMArt investigators (note the list

requires Adobe Reader - which can be freely downloaded).

http://acsresearch.swmed.edu/amsmart/AmSMART%20investigators-%20website.pdf

Best of luck - Mitch

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hello,

l would like if anybody uses a exercise machine called tens

thank you

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