Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 nausea associated w/A > > I will give it a try. So, does it help with nausea to, or just pain?? > thanks, > danielle > > Most people don't have " nausea " associated with achalasia, so I'm not sure what you're asking about. Do you mean the regurgitation of undigested food that's been sitting in the esophagus? That's NOT the same as nausea, upset stomach, indigestion, vomiting, puking, barfing, throwing up, tossing your cookies, or " getting sick " . That's something that frustrates me about this condition (and talking about it on this message board). When food gets stuck and backed up in the esophagus, we are not " throwing up " in the conventional sense of the word. > > When someone vomits, the stomach contracts violently, the LES opens, and the food (and stomach acid) that was in the stomach is propelled up the esophagus and out the mouth (and sometimes, the nose - lovely, isn't it?). Merriam-Webster defines vomiting as: " to disgorge the stomach contents " . When someone has food that has been sitting in the esophagus because it can't get past the LES and into the stomach. Therefore, when this food is disgorged, it is the contents of the ESOPHAGUS, not the contents of the STOMACH that we see displayed before us. > > Some think that this is a " po-tay-toe / po-tah-toe " type of argument, but I think that it really is important for everyone to know what we're talking about. This is part of the reason why so many of us get misdiagnosed for so long.... we don't really have a word that means " to disgorge the contents of the esophagus " so people tell their doctor that they're " throwing up " , which sends the doctor on a wild goose chase for problems associated with the stomach, not the esophagus. > > For example, in le's question above, I have no clue what she's asking about, and I can't provide her with an answer if I don't know what the question is regarding in the first place. Does she mean does it help with " regurgitating " the contents of the esophagus? Does it mean that she's pregnant and experiencing morning sickness completely separate from achalasia? Does it mean that she's asking for help with NCCPs (non-cardiac chest pains, also referred to as " spasms " or " spasm pains " )? > > Side note: " spasm pains " are yet another cause for misdiagnosing our problem.... most people think that the pain is " heartburn " or " indigestion " or " acid reflux " because we really don't have a word for " excruciating chest pain that is usually based in the area of the sternum, but sometimes travels up the throat or neck and into the mouth/jaw or may include the rib or shoulder areas " . I daresay that not a single person here had ever heard the phrase " Non Cardiac Chest Pains " before finding this group or doing extensive achalasia research -- I know that I hadn't!!! > > Debbi in Michigan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 I found a definition for nausea as " a stomach distress with distaste for food and an urge to vomit. " I think that by saying nausea, we all can understand that it is a basic distaste for food. I know there are days I feel like I'm starving to death, and try to eat whatever I can get to stay down, and other days, I have no desire to eat. My stomach tells me that. I think that we are all here for some support, and just having other people who know what we are going through. I feel that this condition is exaggerated by stress. It benefits no one to attack each other on this board. Instead of stating how you don't like boards like these, don't post a message. Try to think about how you would feel if you were being attacked. > > > > I will give it a try. So, does it help with nausea to, or just > pain?? > > thanks, > > danielle > > > > Most people don't have " nausea " associated with achalasia, so > I'm not sure what you're asking about. Do you mean the > regurgitation of undigested food that's been sitting in the > esophagus? That's NOT the same as nausea, upset stomach, > indigestion, vomiting, puking, barfing, throwing up, tossing your > cookies, or " getting sick " . That's something that frustrates me > about this condition (and talking about it on this message board). > When food gets stuck and backed up in the esophagus, we are > not " throwing up " in the conventional sense of the word. > > > > When someone vomits, the stomach contracts violently, the LES > opens, and the food (and stomach acid) that was in the stomach is > propelled up the esophagus and out the mouth (and sometimes, the > nose - lovely, isn't it?). Merriam-Webster defines vomiting > as: " to disgorge the stomach contents " . When someone has food that > has been sitting in the esophagus because it can't get past the LES > and into the stomach. Therefore, when this food is disgorged, it is > the contents of the ESOPHAGUS, not the contents of the STOMACH that > we see displayed before us. > > > > Some think that this is a " po-tay-toe / po-tah-toe " type of > argument, but I think that it really is important for everyone to > know what we're talking about. This is part of the reason why so > many of us get misdiagnosed for so long.... we don't really have a > word that means " to disgorge the contents of the esophagus " so > people tell their doctor that they're " throwing up " , which sends the > doctor on a wild goose chase for problems associated with the > stomach, not the esophagus. > > > > For example, in le's question above, I have no clue what > she's asking about, and I can't provide her with an answer if I > don't know what the question is regarding in the first place. Does > she mean does it help with " regurgitating " the contents of the > esophagus? Does it mean that she's pregnant and experiencing > morning sickness completely separate from achalasia? Does it mean > that she's asking for help with NCCPs (non-cardiac chest pains, also > referred to as " spasms " or " spasm pains " )? > > > > Side note: " spasm pains " are yet another cause for > misdiagnosing our problem.... most people think that the pain > is " heartburn " or " indigestion " or " acid reflux " because we really > don't have a word for " excruciating chest pain that is usually based > in the area of the sternum, but sometimes travels up the throat or > neck and into the mouth/jaw or may include the rib or shoulder > areas " . I daresay that not a single person here had ever heard the > phrase " Non Cardiac Chest Pains " before finding this group or doing > extensive achalasia research -- I know that I hadn't!!! > > > > Debbi in Michigan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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