Guest guest Posted April 17, 2000 Report Share Posted April 17, 2000 Kathy said--- > Dr. Moran: > > Thank you for your post. > > I am not a physician, nor a health care practitioner, nor an > expert in the > skills of debate. I am not here to " play fair " or " be charming " , as you > suggest. I am merely one person struggling to find the best way > to heal my > body. I find it rather offensive that you argue and condescend > to me in this > manner. I am a physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual being. I > find my guidance through these channels, not on the Internet from someone > who, apparently, has an ax to grind. > > What I have done with my own body is my business. If anyone else > wants to > know of my experiences with alternative and conventional > medicine, I am happy > to share these. But I will not be a vehicle for your ax grinding. > > For others on the list: When diagnosed with cancer, I researched > and found > the best surgeons and facility in my area for treatment. When I > asked the > doctors at Columbia Presbyterian if there were any other ways to > treat this > cancer, I was told, emphatically, NO. When I asked my > alternative doctor the > same question, he supported using surgery and other conventional > methods when > necessary. My conventional doctors did not even mention my > immune system, my > diet, vitamins and minerals, etc. IMO, this is pure folly. > > Blessings, Kathy. Kathy, I don't think it was at all condescending of me to assume that you were prepared to defend certain statements concerning conventional medicine and the treatment offered you, especially after you repeated them to be directly. You have not admitted that you were wrong anywhere, but I realise that in this forum that would be hard. But enough, except to say that one thing that is disturbing about a lot of alternative cancer thinking is that it transfers all the onus for " healing " onto the cancer patient, rather than onto the merits of any actual treatment. This is reflected in your statement " struggling to find the best way to heal my body. " I know that it is good for cancer patients to feel they have control over what is happening to them but there is a downside burden if it is seen as a constant struggle. I have heard such expressions from many other AM users. I feel cancer patients have enough to contend with without being worried that they may not be doing the treatment right, or using the right treatments, or thinking positive enough thoughts all the time. It also implies a useful cop-out for alternative medicine if the treatments don't work. It will be your fault. There must have been something you did wrong. With Hulda , for example, there might always be that elusive environmental toxin you failed to eliminate. Alternative medicine (AM) also doesn't seem to care that cancers occur in the indigent, the poor, the retarded, the senile and many other groups who have not got a hope of following such routines as you are following. AM is " do your own research " and " find out what works for you " and " would anyone who has used such and such please let me know how they got on? " . Medicine has the responsibility of knowing what works best and devising treatments that can be applied to all. Perhaps this is why a recent survey showed that breast cancer patients who use alternatives have much higher levels of anxiety than those who do not. The belief imparted by AM to its followers that any conventional treatments they will have received hardly ever work, and probably makes it worse, wouldn't help much either. Part of the problem is the lack of sound information about alternatives. In a separate post to Mike I have some suggestions as to how this can be rectified, but I am having difficulty keeping up at the moment. At least with most conventional treatments people can get all the unpleasantness of the treatment over with and get on with their lives, slowly forgetting that they ever had cancer. That is, if they are not scared out of their brain by malicious propaganda such as this, on an alternative web site--- From Herbal Cancer Cure Web site " Did you know that people with cancer that use the standard medical treatment most always die from cancer, or complications arising from cancer; unless by some accident? " You accuse me of having an ax to grind. If so, this kind of thing is why. I DO wish you well, but agree we do not have much more to say to each other unless you (or anyone else) wishes to actually defend the statements of yours that I have challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Regarding the Inside Edition time----I live in Toms River,NJ and I think it says 3:30 today on channel 2.... I hope that is the one with the apraxia segment!!!!! Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 > > In a message dated 10/3/01 7:53:37 PM Central Daylight Time, > maryhe@... writes: > > >> What is LOL - is this some type of inside joke! - or maybe an Americanism! >> Cheers H >> >> > > LOL= Laugh Out Loud Yep, and in dutch the word " lol " means fun. So maybe it's more of a dutchism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 In a message dated 12/02/2002 1:08:45 PM Central Standard Time, autism writes: << At the same time, eye-contact has increased, he is talking more to us even though it is echoing speech, >> Dear Vicci, This is a VERY encouraging sign. They will practice echoing speech to you until they can figure out how to retrieve the right response from themselves or until they actually learn the proper response. This shows a real desire to communicate. Praise him each time he does it and " take your blessings where you find them " . <smile> Barbara B Elliot's grandmother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 In a message dated 12/02/2002 1:08:45 PM Central Standard Time, autism writes: << At the same time, eye-contact has increased, he is talking more to us even though it is echoing speech, >> Dear Vicci, This is a VERY encouraging sign. They will practice echoing speech to you until they can figure out how to retrieve the right response from themselves or until they actually learn the proper response. This shows a real desire to communicate. Praise him each time he does it and " take your blessings where you find them " . <smile> Barbara B Elliot's grandmother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 I too, was starving after surgery, even though I was told I wouldn't be hungry for weeks. Ha! I was sure I had failed where no one could fail.... I drank diluted skim milk and it helped. I just needed some protein. Elise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 I think she must be starting on 30th APRIL rather than 30th JUNE (see below!), otherwise the story reported a few items later about the man from the future may have to be taken more literally!!! Savage RSHom 26 Winstanley Road Saffron Walden Essex CB11 3EQ 01799 524442 Mobile: 07889 989398 Email: roger.jo@... -----Original Message----- From: parama ishaya [mailto:paramaishaya@...] Sent: 27 March 2003 16:08 qxci-english Cc: penny fox Subject: Re: Digest Number 309 Good News! Penny Fox is coming to Jupiter Florida following her work with Dr. Bill in Budapest and her Mexico training. She is offering a Level 1 and Level 2 Immune Certification class. Small class setting for up close and personalized instruction. Close to the ocean. Dates: June 30th-May 4/03 Contact: Parama@paramaishaya@... and Caroline@clcohen2 @ and Pennypenny (DOT) fox@... Do you ? Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 , Gosh, your being discouraged is understandable! How does your daughter (17) feel about all this? Have you gotten at least one other opinion? God's peace. Joyce (Atlanta) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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