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Hi,

I would ask if you have seen a developmental pediatrician? If you have not,

I would suggest that is the next stop. Where do you live?

The description you have given of the word loss at 18 months and some of

the other features of your child would indicate that perhaps they should

look at a diagnosis of pervasive developmental disorder, (PDD) not

otherwise specified (PDD/NOS) as I see a lot of my own children's early

development that compares with your 3 year old.

Does your child have joint attention? In other words, if there is a plane

in the sky or a dog nearby, will she point at this to bring it to your

attention, even though she doesn't use words? How does she get her needs

met? Will she bring you by the hand to get her something she wants from the

fridge?

It is great that you have been able to stay home with your child, but it is

very unlikely that any traumatic event would have caused her development to

be like this, even if you had not stayed home. This is nothing you did or

did not do for her, that has caused this,believe me!

My name is Judy and I am the mother of Brendon, age 15, who has autism, he

wasn't diagnosed until 4.5, many doctors and specialists would not or could

not say what was wrong. I am also the mother of Caroline age 9, who has

PDD/NOS with the main symptom being apraxia, she cannot easily form words

(esp. consanant-vowel-consonant combinations) and uses a combination of

signing, writing and some speech approximations to get her messages across.

Caroline was disgnosed at 2.5, but of course, I had the experience with the

first child to push me along.

Again, tell me more specifically about waht the specialist you have seen

have reported, and which specialists those are.

Judy

Does my child have Dyspraxia? She is 3yrs old and she can do anything

when

she wants to. She is very bright,but she just doesnt talk. She started

saying words around 1 yr old, a 10 word vocabulary. She woould say the

word

1 or 2 times and would not say it no more. It was like I know how to say

it I dont need to say it again. She just stopped trying to talk around 18

months old. She picked up screaming instead. For EX: we would stop at a

stoplight and she would start screaming it was like she didnt have any

patience. Autism is ruled out and nothing has happened to her

traumatically. I am a stay at home mom so i would know if anything had happened.

We have been through all test, speech and group therapy and even preschool. Out

of 10 different people from Geneisist-Speech Therapist. None has been able to

tell me anything. When she gets upset I may hear one word out of her and it

would be momma and thats very seldom. Please help? This is driving the family

just crazy not knowing why or what is causing her not to talk. We just finally

told ourselves she just is so stubborn and she will talk when she is ready. Can

that be it?

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I read your post with interest. Has Aspberger's syndrome been ruled out for

your child? You say that autism has been. Aspberger's syndrome is on the

autism spectrum of disorders but has different behavioral manifestations.

One of the most common is sensory problems, like becoming upset that the

light has not changed to green and screaming. Aspberger syndrome children

are typically very visual and love things like the computer. They can also

be compulsive and ritualistic about things like schedules. The best person

to diagnose this is a pediatric neurologist. One of the trademark

characteristics of Asperger's is that the child has fairly typical language

development until 18 months old then suddenly regresses. Hope this helps

you.

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As you all know, I concur with here, think that Asperger's is a

possibility. Not sure that a pediatric neuroligist is the best, depends on

which pediatric neurologist you get....developmental pediatrician here in

Boston with a specialty in asperger's...if you need a referral in your

area, I will put you in touch with this doctor's office, perhaps they know

someone near you.

, the language loss at 18 months has also been a hallmark in the

diagnosis of other autism spectrum disorders,, my son had this happen as

well. But if I look at viseo of his 1st bithday party, I can see signs

that I wasn't noticing at the time, hand-flapping, perseveration, etc.

Judy

>I read your post with interest. Has Aspberger's syndrome been ruled out

>for your child? You say that autism has been. Aspberger's syndrome is on the

>autism spectrum of disorders but has different behavioral manifestations.

>One of the most common is sensory problems, like becoming upset that the

>light has not changed to green and screaming. Aspberger syndrome children

>re typically very visual and love things like the computer. They can also

>a be compulsive and ritualistic about things like schedules. The best person

>to diagnose this is a pediatric neurologist. One of the trademark

>characteristics of Asperger's is that the child has fairly typical language

>development until 18 months old then suddenly regresses. Hope this helps

>you.

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Thank-you for replying. She gets her needs met by pointing and grabbing my

hand like you described to tell me what she wants. When she wants to watch

one of her movies, which seems to be all she likes to do when we are inside,

she picks one out and she does this little dance with a big smile on her

face. She can sit there and watch a whole movie over and over, but she dont

seem to have the patience to sit with me and read a book. Whats up with

that? We have seen a Developmental Pediatrician ph H. Hersh,M.D. he

wrote findings were not felt to be strongly suggestive of a developmental

apraxia at this time. He suspects that Lindsey has a static encephalopathy

that has impacted on her cognitive,as well as speech and language areas.

Although the etiology, which is prenatal in onset based on her minor

anomalies cannot be determined at this time, the loss os speech raises the

possibility of an epileptiform aphasia, although she has not had evidence of

seizures and she is beginning to regain some expressive language skills.

This was when shewas 2years and 3 months. We have had a evaluation by a

develomental inteventionists that seen her for a year. Her test show that

her personal-social skills,gross motor skillsand adaptive skills are all age

appropriate. Her fine motor skills are slightly delayed. Her communication

and cognitive skills are below age level, but continue to improve. Her

cognitive skills appear lower due to limited vocabulary. Nobody has been

able to tell us anything for certain thank-you again what you told me i can

look more into maybe that could be what it is.

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Whatever the etiology of the disorder, if it walks like a duck and quacks

(well., we wish!) like a duck, it's a duck...sounds like PDD/NOS to me, and

the apraxia can be a part of it, PDD/NOS diagnosis will help you with

services. Caroline was much the way you describe your child, she is 9 now,

and the mixed modalities of work approximation, sign, finger spelling,

Mayer symbols (at first, now faded) have all helped her to

communicate with us.

Let me know if I can answer any more questions, glad to help.

Judy

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Judy- what are Mayer symbols?

Tara

Caroline was much the way you describe your child, she is 9 now,

and the mixed modalities of work approximation, sign, finger spelling,

Mayer symbols (at first, now faded) have all helped her to

communicate with us.

Let me know if I can answer any more questions, glad to help.

Judy

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Mayer puts out a program that you can buy (but don't the school

should have this) with picture exchange symbols or PECS as htey are called,

the kids can use these to build sentences and express themselves. Many

kids have a big book of them they carrry around and velcro the backs so

that they can put symbols words, pix together into thoughts, esp. nouns and

verbs like eat and more and angry, etc.

JD

>Judy- what are Mayer symbols?

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