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Lois - This is great! Where do you live? We are in the midst of our IEP

and our son's program sounds similar to yours. However, we are right now

struggling with services for summer -- extended school year or ESY in the

land of acronyms.

Last year (who is 7) had six weeks of a four-day-a-week program,

from 8:30 am to 3:00 pm. The morning he worked on his academics in a

Resource Room (Special Ed)-type setting, and had his speech (30 minutes

each day) and OT once a week(45 minutes). In the afternoon he attended a

day camp program with an aide (had lunch with his peers, and participated

in the afternoon program). The Special Ed Director in our district has

been under intense pressure from the other Special Ed directors in the

county to *not* offer the program again this year, so we are finding

ourselves having to fight again for comparable services this year.

Is anyone else getting ESY services, and if so, where do you live and what

do they look like (how much per day, for how many weeks, what kind of

services, etc.). Any information would be greatly appreciated and would

really help our effort here in Michigan - thank you!

--Kathleen--

>From: lois noland <jlois@...>

>

>Hello, I just had my sonds IEP meeting for next year. And I wanted to

>let you know what JJ is getting. He has 2 aids, one in the morning and

>one in the afternoon. They work with him one on one and go with him to

>art, music, gym etc... He is getting 2 hours a week speech and 1 hour a

>week o.t. He also has what is called the " wraparound program " . The lady

>that does his ABA programs also goes into the school a couple of times a

>week and checks on his programs or has one of her staff go in.Then they

>come into the home about 6 hours a week to do programs and work on

>social programs.Just thought I would let you all know what is going on

>where I live. JJ is 11 years old and going in fifth grade. Lois

>

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Kathleen, Hello You had a pretty good ESY last year! JJ only has 1 month

(July) that he has ESY. its from 8 to 12 each day of the week. But since he

gets the (wraparound) program someone comes to the home in the summer about 20

hours a week. I live in Hagerstown Md. Lois

Kathleen J. McClatchey wrote:

> From: " Kathleen J. McClatchey " <kjm@...>

>

> Lois - This is great! Where do you live? We are in the midst of our IEP

> and our son's program sounds similar to yours. However, we are right now

> struggling with services for summer -- extended school year or ESY in the

> land of acronyms.

>

> Last year (who is 7) had six weeks of a four-day-a-week program,

> from 8:30 am to 3:00 pm. The morning he worked on his academics in a

> Resource Room (Special Ed)-type setting, and had his speech (30 minutes

> each day) and OT once a week(45 minutes). In the afternoon he attended a

> day camp program with an aide (had lunch with his peers, and participated

> in the afternoon program). The Special Ed Director in our district has

> been under intense pressure from the other Special Ed directors in the

> county to *not* offer the program again this year, so we are finding

> ourselves having to fight again for comparable services this year.

>

> Is anyone else getting ESY services, and if so, where do you live and what

> do they look like (how much per day, for how many weeks, what kind of

> services, etc.). Any information would be greatly appreciated and would

> really help our effort here in Michigan - thank you!

> --Kathleen--

>

> >From: lois noland <jlois@...>

> >

> >Hello, I just had my sonds IEP meeting for next year. And I wanted to

> >let you know what JJ is getting. He has 2 aids, one in the morning and

> >one in the afternoon. They work with him one on one and go with him to

> >art, music, gym etc... He is getting 2 hours a week speech and 1 hour a

> >week o.t. He also has what is called the " wraparound program " . The lady

> >that does his ABA programs also goes into the school a couple of times a

> >week and checks on his programs or has one of her staff go in.Then they

> >come into the home about 6 hours a week to do programs and work on

> >social programs.Just thought I would let you all know what is going on

> >where I live. JJ is 11 years old and going in fifth grade. Lois

> >

> >

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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Kathleen J. McClatchey (Whiteman) kjm@...

> Executive Communications office phone: (734) 763-8190

> Office of the Chief Information Officer fax: (734) 764-3988

> 5085 Fleming Administration Building cell phone: (734) 358-5122

> University of Michigan home phone: (734) 944-1828

> Ann Arbor, MI 48109

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Lois - Do you pay for the wraparound program or does the school district?

--Kathleen--

>From: lois noland <jlois@...>

>

>Kathleen, Hello You had a pretty good ESY last year! JJ only has 1 month

>(July) that he has ESY. its from 8 to 12 each day of the week. But since he

>gets the (wraparound) program someone comes to the home in the summer about 20

>hours a week. I live in Hagerstown Md. Lois

>

>Kathleen J. McClatchey wrote:

>

>> From: " Kathleen J. McClatchey " <kjm@...>

>>

>> Lois - This is great! Where do you live? We are in the midst of our IEP

>> and our son's program sounds similar to yours. However, we are right now

>> struggling with services for summer -- extended school year or ESY in the

>> land of acronyms.

>>

>> Last year (who is 7) had six weeks of a four-day-a-week program,

>> from 8:30 am to 3:00 pm. The morning he worked on his academics in a

>> Resource Room (Special Ed)-type setting, and had his speech (30 minutes

>> each day) and OT once a week(45 minutes). In the afternoon he attended a

>> day camp program with an aide (had lunch with his peers, and participated

>> in the afternoon program). The Special Ed Director in our district has

>> been under intense pressure from the other Special Ed directors in the

>> county to *not* offer the program again this year, so we are finding

>> ourselves having to fight again for comparable services this year.

>>

>> Is anyone else getting ESY services, and if so, where do you live and what

>> do they look like (how much per day, for how many weeks, what kind of

>> services, etc.). Any information would be greatly appreciated and would

>> really help our effort here in Michigan - thank you!

>> --Kathleen--

>>

>> >From: lois noland <jlois@...>

>> >

>> >Hello, I just had my sonds IEP meeting for next year. And I wanted to

>> >let you know what JJ is getting. He has 2 aids, one in the morning and

>> >one in the afternoon. They work with him one on one and go with him to

>> >art, music, gym etc... He is getting 2 hours a week speech and 1 hour a

>> >week o.t. He also has what is called the " wraparound program " . The lady

>> >that does his ABA programs also goes into the school a couple of times a

>> >week and checks on his programs or has one of her staff go in.Then they

>> >come into the home about 6 hours a week to do programs and work on

>> >social programs.Just thought I would let you all know what is going on

>> >where I live. JJ is 11 years old and going in fifth grade. Lois

>> >

>> >

>> >------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts!

>> >14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses,

>> >gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US!

>> > /ad/shoptheglobe5

>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> Kathleen J. McClatchey (Whiteman) kjm@...

>> Executive Communications office phone: (734) 763-8190

>> Office of the Chief Information Officer fax: (734) 764-3988

>> 5085 Fleming Administration Building cell phone: (734) 358-5122

>> University of Michigan home phone: (734) 944-1828

>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109

>>

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>

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Kathleen J. McClatchey (Whiteman) kjm@...

Executive Communications office phone: (734) 763-8190

Office of the Chief Information Officer fax: (734) 764-3988

5085 Fleming Administration Building cell phone: (734) 358-5122

University of Michigan home phone: (734) 944-1828

Ann Arbor, MI 48109

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Hi! t

The school district pays the ARC and the lady at the ARC is the one that makes

up

the ABA programs and one on one JJ gets. Lois

Kathleen J. McClatchey wrote:

> From: " Kathleen J. McClatchey " <kjm@...>

>

> Lois - Do you pay for the wraparound program or does the school district?

> --Kathleen--

>

> >From: lois noland <jlois@...>

> >

> >Kathleen, Hello You had a pretty good ESY last year! JJ only has 1 month

> >(July) that he has ESY. its from 8 to 12 each day of the week. But since he

> >gets the (wraparound) program someone comes to the home in the summer about

20

> >hours a week. I live in Hagerstown Md. Lois

> >

> >Kathleen J. McClatchey wrote:

> >

> >> From: " Kathleen J. McClatchey " <kjm@...>

> >>

> >> Lois - This is great! Where do you live? We are in the midst of our IEP

> >> and our son's program sounds similar to yours. However, we are right now

> >> struggling with services for summer -- extended school year or ESY in the

> >> land of acronyms.

> >>

> >> Last year (who is 7) had six weeks of a four-day-a-week program,

> >> from 8:30 am to 3:00 pm. The morning he worked on his academics in a

> >> Resource Room (Special Ed)-type setting, and had his speech (30 minutes

> >> each day) and OT once a week(45 minutes). In the afternoon he attended a

> >> day camp program with an aide (had lunch with his peers, and participated

> >> in the afternoon program). The Special Ed Director in our district has

> >> been under intense pressure from the other Special Ed directors in the

> >> county to *not* offer the program again this year, so we are finding

> >> ourselves having to fight again for comparable services this year.

> >>

> >> Is anyone else getting ESY services, and if so, where do you live and what

> >> do they look like (how much per day, for how many weeks, what kind of

> >> services, etc.). Any information would be greatly appreciated and would

> >> really help our effort here in Michigan - thank you!

> >> --Kathleen--

> >>

> >> >From: lois noland <jlois@...>

> >> >

> >> >Hello, I just had my sonds IEP meeting for next year. And I wanted to

> >> >let you know what JJ is getting. He has 2 aids, one in the morning and

> >> >one in the afternoon. They work with him one on one and go with him to

> >> >art, music, gym etc... He is getting 2 hours a week speech and 1 hour a

> >> >week o.t. He also has what is called the " wraparound program " . The lady

> >> >that does his ABA programs also goes into the school a couple of times a

> >> >week and checks on his programs or has one of her staff go in.Then they

> >> >come into the home about 6 hours a week to do programs and work on

> >> >social programs.Just thought I would let you all know what is going on

> >> >where I live. JJ is 11 years old and going in fifth grade. Lois

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> >Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts!

> >> >14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses,

> >> >gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US!

> >> > /ad/shoptheglobe5

> >>

> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >> Kathleen J. McClatchey (Whiteman) kjm@...

> >> Executive Communications office phone: (734) 763-8190

> >> Office of the Chief Information Officer fax: (734) 764-3988

> >> 5085 Fleming Administration Building cell phone: (734) 358-5122

> >> University of Michigan home phone: (734) 944-1828

> >> Ann Arbor, MI 48109

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> Looking to expand your world?

> >>

> >> ONElist has over 130,000 e-mail communities from which to chose!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >Attention small business owners:

> >

> >Did you know that ONElist is a great way for small business owners

> >to stay in touch with their customers?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Kathleen J. McClatchey (Whiteman) kjm@...

> Executive Communications office phone: (734) 763-8190

> Office of the Chief Information Officer fax: (734) 764-3988

> 5085 Fleming Administration Building cell phone: (734) 358-5122

> University of Michigan home phone: (734) 944-1828

> Ann Arbor, MI 48109

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What may be helpful is to (and I know that does not always occur) request

assistance from the local ASA Chapter (start one if needed?) as there is

strength in numbers. Although it may be easier for a system to negotiate

with one parent at a time, the more a system must contend with in the way of

parents, the better for all.

My oldest son initially received (at age 6) full day ESY in July. At age 7 I

had to pay for it. From age 8-12 I paid for a summer camp for special

population children which is now ESY-certified by the county, but was not

then. Once he was put into private placement he received five weeks of ESY.

This year I plan on 10 weeks of the teenage camp for sp pops as ESY as he has

been approved for ESY but I think he needs more than five weeks but more for

social skills.

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> Hi Everyone,

>

> Well tomorrow is the big day. We meet with the director of child

services

> for Bobby's 2nd IEP. Keep your finger's crossed. I'll keep you

posted.

>

>

Good luck !! Knock 'em dead! Your prepared, so go in with

confidence! But remember, you will still get more bees with honey

instead of vinegar, if you get my drift! Be firm nd confident when

telling them what you want, but you also have to listen to what they

have to say.

You'll do great ... I just hope you have a bottle of wine waiting for

you when you get home!!

Stacey Abenstein

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, do you mean your private evals or the evals that the town does? With

the private evals, they accepted my dev. ped's since it was done a couple of

months before the IEP meeting, but my last private speech eval had been done

more than a year before so that was not accepted. If you mean the town's

evals, they can do it a few mths before going right up to it. But of course,

you are entitled to have the evals done ahead of time and have the written

reports submitted to you for review ahead of the meeting. There is also a

good IEP group at that can be very helpful. I will talk to you

directly, Carolyn

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, I do not think that they are obligated to furnish these to you prior to

the meeting. Common courtesy is that they should, of

course, but my experience has been otherwise in my own case and in advocating

for others. I also request that I have them at

least 48 hours prior to the meeting. It has happened a few times but that is out

of alot of times that I have requested it.

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There is no legal requirement that they give you evaluation results a certain

time before the IEP. I have always made a point of talking directly to the

person writing up the evaluation and telling them I want to see the report as

far in advance of the IEP meeting as possible. Doesn't hurt to put that in

writing also in a friendly " as we discussed " note. I have always been able to

get them at least several weeks ahead. Getting draft IEP goals more than 2-3

days ahead has been harder, but I am persistent and also let them know well in

advance (also confirmed in a friendly note) that I expect to see them ahead of

the meeting. The obligation is mutual -- I also make a point of preparing my

own present level of performance and getting it to evaluation personnel in

advance of the evaluations, and then preparing my own proposed IEP goals and

getting them in the hands of the actual person drafting the IEP well before they

draft goals. I have found the key had been communicating directly with the

person doing the work -- I think I was supposed to filter everything through a

central administrator, but found that what I was sending was not getting into

the hands of the people doing the evals or writing the IEP, and they also were

not getting the message about my expectations of advance copies. I also find

that to be true after the IEP is done -- the teachers and therapists often are

given nothing but the IEP pages relevant to their area, but are not given the

evaluations, other goals, or my present level of performance write-up or any

info about related areas that might be relevant (e.g. the SLP not aware of

hypotonia or dyspraxia because it is not mentioned in the speech goals, but is

in the OT/PT goals she does not see). Now I always make a point of making up a

package of what I think they ought to have from the total record and delivering

it to them in person. They have always been extremely grateful, and it seems to

jumpstart therapy.

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I was just informed by the Federation for Children with special needs

that once you request an Eval be done, in writing... that they have 5

days to respond, 30 school days to complete the eval, then the

report " should " be done with in a week, then once the eval is

received by YOU and them, the meeting must be set up within 2 days.

Also, DO NOT sign the IEP there! Take it home and review it, it is

really confusing!!! Not sure where you are, or if this company is all

over, but let me know if you want info to them, they've been great to

me!

Theresa

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> Hi,

>

> Does anyone have any idea on what the timeframe that evaluations

can

> be provided BEFORE an IEP meeting? I want the evaluation results

> prior to the meeting to get an idea of what I should be looking for.

>

> Thanks.

>

> denise

> Mom to 3.8 verbal apraxia

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