Re: OT: Upper Endoscopy Then &Now

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In a message dated 9/14/2004 11:41:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, holt-smith@... writes:

Well, I can understand a little bit, I like to see everything that'sgoing on when I have a barium swallow, but I don't have ANY desire to beawake for an endoscopy and dilatation....it would be too much like whenI went through my C-Section being awake, and the only thing I DIDN'Tfeel was the incision...otherwise it felt like they were tearing mycervix out of my body...it hurt just a wee bit...thought I was going todie.Sandi

Sandi,

OOH, that sounds really painful, except, you have a wonderful baby to hold later!

I can't imagine being aware for a endoscope either. Some things are just not that fun to be awake for. I had all my 3 children with natural childbirth, and though they were all wonderful experiences, they sure hurt like he--!

Jan from N KY

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Sandi wrote...

> Joy....I simply can't even imagine how horrible that must have been

for you when you were so young...but tell me please...you are

kidding when you say " you miss being alert " ?????

Yeah, in a way I worry that if I am " out " they might tend to

disregard me and manhandle me more. I liked being " present " and

treated like a real " entity " and " human " ....if that makes any

sense. I just know from the time I woke up in the middle of an

endoscopy because the little pill hadn't done it's trick (several

years back) and I panicked bacause I had the sensation that I

couldn't breath....and I couldn't relay the message because I

obviously couldn't talk with the honkin tube down my throat...but

nobody cared anyway because they were talking about their sailing or

golfing or whatever because they expected me to be " out. " Actually

heard the Dr. say... " oh, better give her a little more whatever. "

Yeah! " Bring it on, " I was thinking, because I am right here with

you and I am not liking things. So, what I meant by my statement was

only that at least if they don't give you anything....then they treat

you human. Rather than.... " oh my gosh, something is up with this

one...the sedatives are still in her throat! " No wonder she isn't

liking us tossing her about on the table! Needless to say, I didn't

even bother going back to that Dr. for the results....and nor did I

go to any other Dr. for treatment for a decade. Really forced my

achalasia to progress as slowly as possible.

Joy

ps. Would NOT like to go through an alert C-section. But now that

everyone has been talking about babies and pregnancies....I am

beginning to worry. Course I worry too much anyway, but I am late

and now I think my tummy is twitching. Probably pre-surgery jitters.

I am going for a physical tomorrow. You guys are " killing " me. Hehe.

> Well, I can understand a little bit, I like to see everything that's

> going on when I have a barium swallow, but I don't have ANY desire

to be

> awake for an endoscopy and dilatation....it would be too much like

when

> I went through my C-Section being awake, and the only thing I DIDN'T

> feel was the incision...otherwise it felt like they were tearing my

> cervix out of my body...it hurt just a wee bit...thought I was

going to

> die.

>

> Sandi

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Joy....I simply can't even imagine how horrible that must have been for

you when you were so young...but tell me please...you are kidding when

you say " you miss being alert " ?????

Well, I can understand a little bit, I like to see everything that's

going on when I have a barium swallow, but I don't have ANY desire to be

awake for an endoscopy and dilatation....it would be too much like when

I went through my C-Section being awake, and the only thing I DIDN'T

feel was the incision...otherwise it felt like they were tearing my

cervix out of my body...it hurt just a wee bit...thought I was going to

die.

Sandi

OT: Upper Endoscopy Then & Now

Anyone just now undergoing treatment & diagnosis for Achalasia for

the first time might be interested to know that when I was a teen and

had my first endoscopy....NO tranquilizers, NO nothing....just

swallow the scope in small increments while sitting up and a nurse

spritzing some 7-up (?) in my mouth to assist in swallowing and

prevent gagging. Once it was down, then I layed on my side and the

Dr. proceeded to scope. The neat thing was that I was awake and

conscious and could see (on the monitor) & hear everything. The Dr.

would point things out even. Well, undoubtedly because it wasn't the

most pleasant experience and too difficult for too many people, they

added a " valium " (or something) pill by my next endoscopy (15 yrs.

later). Trouble was, the pill didn't go down, so they were jamming

the tube in and I was only 1/2 O.K. with it.....and that was

frightful! Now, endoscopy clinics are set up to specialize in just

that.....and althought being " put out " etc. is a great assist to

them....somehow I miss sitting there in my blue jeans - and being

alert. Does anyone else have a " Then & Now " to share?

Joy (in Michigan)

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I had my first endosopic exam about 25 years ago as well, but I was

fortunate to have a GI doc who even then was very knowledgeable about

achalasia. I was given Demerol for pain and my throat was sparayed I

believe with procaine (one of the caines at any rate) I was aware of

everything but don't remember having much pain. It was in the middle 80's

that they be began giving Versed along with the Demerol which blocked any

memory of the procedure. My last dilation was in 1995 using the same meds.

F

OT: Upper Endoscopy Then & Now

> Anyone just now undergoing treatment & diagnosis for Achalasia for

> the first time might be interested to know that when I was a teen and

> had my first endoscopy....NO tranquilizers, NO nothing....just

> swallow the scope in small increments while sitting up and a nurse

> spritzing some 7-up (?) in my mouth to assist in swallowing and

> prevent gagging. Once it was down, then I layed on my side and the

> Dr. proceeded to scope. The neat thing was that I was awake and

> conscious and could see (on the monitor) & hear everything. The Dr.

> would point things out even. Well, undoubtedly because it wasn't the

> most pleasant experience and too difficult for too many people, they

> added a " valium " (or something) pill by my next endoscopy (15 yrs.

> later). Trouble was, the pill didn't go down, so they were jamming

> the tube in and I was only 1/2 O.K. with it.....and that was

> frightful! Now, endoscopy clinics are set up to specialize in just

> that.....and althought being " put out " etc. is a great assist to

> them....somehow I miss sitting there in my blue jeans - and being

> alert. Does anyone else have a " Then & Now " to share?

> Joy (in Michigan)

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Hi ...

My first was '81 and I also had NO pain...but No painkillers either.

My second was probably about '91/93 time frame. Joy

> I had my first endosopic exam about 25 years ago as well, but I was

> fortunate to have a GI doc who even then was very knowledgeable

about

> achalasia. I was given Demerol for pain and my throat was sparayed

I

> believe with procaine (one of the caines at any rate) I was aware

of

> everything but don't remember having much pain. It was in the

middle 80's

> that they be began giving Versed along with the Demerol which

blocked any

> memory of the procedure. My last dilation was in 1995 using the

same meds.

> F

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> > Anyone just now undergoing treatment & diagnosis for Achalasia for

> > the first time might be interested to know that when I was a teen

and

> > had my first endoscopy....NO tranquilizers, NO nothing....just

> > swallow the scope in small increments while sitting up and a nurse

> > spritzing some 7-up (?) in my mouth to assist in swallowing and

> > prevent gagging. Once it was down, then I layed on my side and

the

> > Dr. proceeded to scope. The neat thing was that I was awake and

> > conscious and could see (on the monitor) & hear everything. The

Dr.

> > would point things out even. Well, undoubtedly because it wasn't

the

> > most pleasant experience and too difficult for too many people,

they

> > added a " valium " (or something) pill by my next endoscopy (15 yrs.

> > later). Trouble was, the pill didn't go down, so they were

jamming

> > the tube in and I was only 1/2 O.K. with it.....and that was

> > frightful! Now, endoscopy clinics are set up to specialize in

just

> > that.....and althought being " put out " etc. is a great assist to

> > them....somehow I miss sitting there in my blue jeans - and being

> > alert. Does anyone else have a " Then & Now " to share?

> > Joy (in Michigan)

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