Re: Have any of you tried this?

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Joan wrote:

I can only have sips of liquid at a time so that is a pity - I envy those of you who can drink water to make the food go down!

Joan, I reached a point at one time that I could not drink water

either and to me that was worse than not being able to eat.

Guess I had enough fat built up that I could live off that...but not

the water.

Maggie

Alabama, where it is also sunny and mild 52 degrees.

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you have done a lot of research on this. I cannot drink any water before with or after my food - I can only have sips of liquid at a time so that is a pity - I envy those of you who can drink water to make the food go down!

What always puts me off these various "cures" is the claims they make that it "cures" or significantly improves such diverse ailments as arthritis and a whole host of unrelated diseases. Then I become sceptical.

There is a lot of information about drinking water and no one disputes its value in washing out toxins and diluting acids.

But when they claim to "cure" then I find myself wondering.

Joan

in sunny and hot South Africa

Johannesburg South Africajpearse@...

Have any of you tried this?

Greetings to Achalasia sufferers in all stages:I promised you I had, in my research, discovered something perhaps some of you might be willing to try. When I first mentioned it, I sort of got scoffed at and didn't feel it was the right time to share this possibility with you, until now. I just finished Dr. Batmanghelidj's book, "You're Not Sick, You Are Thirsty" and I don't apologize for believing much of what he wrote. I wish I could type 100 wpm so I could share much of the most pertinent statements with you, but I can't. I really care about all of you even though I have never met a single one of you. Out of that caring, how I could not share what I feel might help even a few of you? Dr. Batman (we'll call him, a few of you call him a quack) & #61514; says he's found "The Water Cure" for so many dis-eases. Cure is a strong word isn't it? Well let's just have an open mind…I wonder how many of you (us) drink dehydrating drinks such as coffee, tea, soda and alcohol? I occasionally drink wine and some decaf… He says feeling thirsty is not the main sign that you need to drink water. There are other signals that occur first and once you are thirsty you are down 2-3 glasses of water. If you are thirsty and drink one glass of water, you are probably still down 2 glasses! And some people don't even drink ½ glass of water when they are thirsty! He has a chapter on "Crisis calls for water" and he talks about heartburn, "esophagitis", duodenitis, hiatal hernia, and dyspeptic and gastrointestinal pains – calls these and others specific pains of dehydration.At any rate, here's what he said specifically about the esophagus and the pyloric valve…"Inside the pyloric valve are sensors – like spokes of a wheel that stick out when the stomach contents are passed into the duodenum – that register the consistency and the acidity of the stomach contents. Only it the acidity of the stomach contents can be neutralized completely by the amount of the alkaline secretion form the pancreas will the pyloric valve open and allow the stomach contents to enter the intestine. At a crisis stage of dehydration, when heartburn or dyspeptic pain is also produced, the high acidity in the stomach cannot go into the intestine. It cannot stay in the stomach for long either.In this situation, some of the acidic contents can bubble up, particularly when you are lying down. At the same time, the upper part of the stomach can also slide through the hiatal valve into the chest cavity; you might even vomit… Given sufficient water every day, the situation can reverse itself and the pain and the hernia can disappear. A dome-shaped muscle called the diaphragm separates the chest cavity from the abdomen. It is attached to the rib cage etc…at the back of the diaphragm is an opening through with the esophagus and the main blood vessels pass. This opening is called the hiatus and acts as a "purse-string" gate. This overlapping band of muscle keeps the gate closed. It relaxes only when food is passing through the esophagus. When food is NOT passing through, the gate remains closed. In SOME people, the gate becomes lax and its opening less firm. In these people the stomach may appear to bulge…. The reason why the hiatal gate becomes lax is chronic dehydration."Then he talks about the mucus coating and other acidic liquids needed such as a watery bicarbonate solution for the pancreas to do its job. And that if they are too acidic and not hydrated enough, these valves act up etc. (I had to paraphrase here so this is not too long).I know some of you might be thinking, "We don't have heartburn for God's sakes! – We have something much more serious!" I know you do. What I am saying is that just maybe its worth a TRY to see if, especially in some of you in the early stags of A. you can rehydrate yourselves with his simple program…?Isn't it worth a try? He suggests licking a little salt on your hand in the a.m. and drinking two whole glasses of water. He recommends to rehydrate yourself, also drink two glasses 30 min. before eating (whatever you can get down). Then 2 ½ hours after you eat, drink two more glasses. He suggests about ½ t salt per day. He has several pages of the hidden miracles of salt. And he has two pages of why NOT to have caffeine… not in coffee, not in colas etc. Then as I was about to send this, I read 7 different posts in a row declaring your attachment to caffeine. He suggests you try giving it up for a while and re-hydrating yourself as a test...For me this might be 8 a.m. – 2 glasses8:30 breakfast11 a.m. – 2 glasses1:00 p.m. - 2 glasses1:30 lunch4:30 - 2 glasses5:00 dinner8:30 p.m. – 2 glassesAnyway, in his book he talks about many people who have ridden themselves of many diseases including lower back pain, arthritis, and asthma. He feels these and other maladies are a result of dehydration. I agree most of us do not drink sufficient water and maybe this is worth a try.I wonder how many of us were coffee and alcohol drinkers? Yet another question in my survey..Thanks for bearing with me. There's nothing wrong with having a probing mind. Again, I wish you all well and in any way God may bring it to you, may you find healing and health…Now drink up! Just do it! You've got the prescription – those of you who feel its worth a try, see if it helps, by drinking two full glasses when you get up, 2 glasses 30 min. b4 each meal and two 2 ½ hours after a meal. That might be up to 10 glasses a day and he says you can taper off to about half your body weight in oz. after a few days. I have to drink approximately 65 oz. as I weigh 130 lbs…. Best wishes,And God bless you,Diane

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Thanks Maggie ! I live in hope! I saw a new Gastroenterologist today and am going to have a liquid and solid barium swallow next Thursday to see what is going on. I wonder what "solid" they will give me? He will not give me any advice until he has seen the x-ray. So here to hoping for something good to tuck into one of these days. At the moment I don't mind the weight loss - I can do with it - but I am so wobbly it is quite a bother. I made my husband a chocolate cake for his birthday and had to go and lie down afterwards I was shaking so! Meanwhile on with the sips of fluid!

JoanJohannesburg South Africajpearse@...

Re: Have any of you tried this?

Joan wrote:I can only have sips of liquid at a time so that is a pity - I envy those of you who can drink water to make the food go down!Joan, I reached a point at one time that I could not drink watereither and to me that was worse than not being able to eat. Guess I had enough fat built up that I could live off that...but notthe water. MaggieAlabama, where it is also sunny and mild 52 degrees.

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Joan, I know one thing they have for solids is a "horse pill" -- a big solid tablet of barium that you swallow (or attempt to!) whole. I'm sure they have stuff that can be chewed up, too but the big pill is one thing I know about.

Deb

Thanks Maggie ! I live in hope! I saw a new Gastroenterologist today and am going to have a liquid and solid barium swallow next Thursday to see what is going on. I wonder what "solid" they will give me? He will not give me any advice until he has seen the x-ray. So here to hoping for something good to tuck into one of these days. At the moment I don't mind the weight loss - I can do with it - but I am so wobbly it is quite a bother. I made my husband a chocolate cake for his birthday and had to go and lie down afterwards I was shaking so! Meanwhile on with the sips of fluid!

Joan

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> .....Celestial Seasonings " Zingers To Go " (Blueberry Splash Green Tea)??

I have a pile of Celestial Seasonings teas I haven't tried yet. I usually

save them for summer and drink them cold.

> Oftentimes it is hard to gag the water down. I don't like water. It's

> gotta be really cold.

I'm the opposite. I can only drink cold water on the hottest of summer days,

and sometimes then I mix it half with room temp and half form the 'fridge.

> Question, though: WHAT is Stevia...? Is that some version of some

pseudo

> sweetner (like nutrisweet, etc)?

It's an herb that's been used for centuries in place like China. You can

even grow a stevia plant and use the leaves straight from the plant. It's

*very* potent and so it takes just atiny bit of stevia to flavor a drink. It

really can't be used in baking as it doesn't have the volume of other

sweeteners. It's expensive compared to things like Equal or Splenda, and

each brand tastes a bit different, some even taste bitter, so it might take

a bit of experimenting, and a friend to split the costs, until you find one

you like. I haven't seen any for sale in our grocery stores here, only the

health food store.

> Well, if it isn't going to cause me brain cancer or otherwise,

No, this one is perfectly safe.

> I have held off this long because following the TW program (Intuitive

> Eating) has been working, albeit slowly.

I've been thinking of getting this back out of the library next time I go,

but I know what it says - eat when hungry, stop before you let yourself get

too full, just follow your natural appetite. Common sense stuff. If I had

" common sense " when it came to eating I wouldn't be in the shape I'm in!

Sooooo, I am just so torn. I hate

> counting calories, points, etc. Maybe the core plan I have heard so much

about

> will work for me.

Do you like whole grain breads, pastas, or the grains themselves (rice,

quinoa, barley, etc.)? Are you able to eat a normal sized portion and be

done with it? Or do you like these foods *too* much and can easily find

yourself eating large sized portions? Even though you don't have to count

everything in Core, remember that calories DO still count.

> God, please keep me from binging tonight. I am deep in the throes of PMS

> and I am in munchy mode! ACK!

Just when I finally stopped eating everything because of that flu, I started

getting pains in my right breast, the same pains I used to get a few days

before I got a period. It's been 4 months since my last bit of spotting and

over a year since my last full-blown period, but the munchies and cravings

are back as if I'm about to get it again. I'm struggling to keep away from

the refrigerator and pantry right now and keeping a full fruit bowl in full

view on the table at all times. I can say one thing for sure, between the

water and extra fruit I won't need a laxitive any time soon!

>I tell ya, sometimes appetite suppressants still

> " sound " good. (NO, I will not go there again)

I wouldn't be surprised in part of my thyroid problem is from the years of

doctor prescribed amphetamines.

Sue in NJ

who could use one now just to stay awake for the rest of the day!