Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 The first Dr I saw 4 yrs ago gave me prozac cuz he said I was panicing and that's why I " imagined " food was getting caught. Not true I know now, but the prozac actually did relax my UES. However, after a couple months the walls were moving and I felt terrible all the time, which my Dr refused to believe, but the cure was worse than the disease, so I ditched the pills. After I did, the tightness came back. -Neil > > > > >The word " regurgitate " is one that's not used as commonly as the > > >others, so I think that's why I like to use it for our " esophageal > > >spewing > > > > " Regurgitate " is also the word that is commonly used in the > > literature. I think it is also the word used for the act of > bringing > > things up that have been swallowed in a stage act. It can imply a > > more willful act than something like vomiting. > > > > >dra, my thinking on this is that weed wouldn't have any > > >effect on us > > > > Actually, there are reports that it does relax the LES. There are > > reports, that it does help some with achalasia. I have not > personally > > tried this treatment. Think if it doesn't work but causes a > > tremendous case of the munchies. Bummer! I don't know if I would > > notice the munchies. I seem to have a constant case of that anyway. > > > > Not sure what the status of AZ's medical use law is at this point. > > Seems the Suprem Court, or some court, recently found in favor of > it, > > at least to some degree. The uncertainty would be troubling. > > > > " Man does not live by bread alone. " Personally, I think I would > > starve in other ways if I used it. Mentally and emotionally I never > > feel better than when I have a clear head (other things being > equal). > > If other things were not equal, but were very bad, and there was no > > other option, maybe. Does anyone thinking this would be a > reallistic > > option? > > > > notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Neil, I'm on a low dose of zoloft and I think it helps to relax muscles too. Jenifer in Ohio > > > > > > >The word " regurgitate " is one that's not used as commonly as > the > > > >others, so I think that's why I like to use it for > our " esophageal > > > >spewing > > > > > > " Regurgitate " is also the word that is commonly used in the > > > literature. I think it is also the word used for the act of > > bringing > > > things up that have been swallowed in a stage act. It can imply > a > > > more willful act than something like vomiting. > > > > > > >dra, my thinking on this is that weed wouldn't have any > > > >effect on us > > > > > > Actually, there are reports that it does relax the LES. There > are > > > reports, that it does help some with achalasia. I have not > > personally > > > tried this treatment. Think if it doesn't work but causes a > > > tremendous case of the munchies. Bummer! I don't know if I would > > > notice the munchies. I seem to have a constant case of that > anyway. > > > > > > Not sure what the status of AZ's medical use law is at this > point. > > > Seems the Suprem Court, or some court, recently found in favor > of > > it, > > > at least to some degree. The uncertainty would be troubling. > > > > > > " Man does not live by bread alone. " Personally, I think I would > > > starve in other ways if I used it. Mentally and emotionally I > never > > > feel better than when I have a clear head (other things being > > equal). > > > If other things were not equal, but were very bad, and there was > no > > > other option, maybe. Does anyone thinking this would be a > > reallistic > > > option? > > > > > > notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Ok, I'll jump into this one. I take trazadone, which is an antidepressant that is in a class by itself. The SSRI's did not work for me. I suffered a major depression in 92. I had a horrible time with my health and a number of other issues back then, and it hit me like a MACK TRUCK all at once. I tried for 6 horrifying months to find a drug that I could tolerate and that would make me feel better. After 6 months, I saw a new doctor because I was going nowhere fast with the first one, who was a doc from hell, no kidding. On the first visit, this doctor asked me if I had tried trazadone, as it could be used as a sleep inducing med and it was not addictive. My other doctor had me taking some MAJOR stuff but never had me try trazadone. It's a commonly used medicine for people with insomnia. On the first night, I slept 6 hours. That was heaven. At first, he was not using it as an antidepressant, but in a low dose for sleep. In an effort to get me to sleep 8 hours, he upped my dose. BIngo. Well, by the time he upped my dose, I was taking it in antidepressant strength category. Long story short, it was my Godsend. My depression lifted and I have been fine ever since. I still take it. I have tried to get off of it and actually have gotten off of it for 3 months successfully, but once you have suffered a major depression in your life, you are more vulnerable to having more depression. I just stay on it now and have no trouble sleeping or with depression. Also, I don't have very many spasms. Not sure if I just DON " T have many spasms anyway, or if the trazadone helps with that. BUT...the first doctor I saw put me on Ambien and a benzodiasapine. Under her care, I became addicted to Ativan. It was HELL. I loathe this person because she never tried this non addictive sleep aid, trazadone before she put me on something so highly addictive. She said, " don't worry, we can get you off of that later. " GEEZ. It took me three months of HELL to get off of it. Every five hours I felt like someone had put a noose around my neck. And I only took 2 mg doses! But you have to take it 3 times a day. PLEASE, don't take benzodiazapines if you can't sleep. You should only be on them for a max of two months. I am not the " addict " personality. I became addicted and it can happen to anyone. IF you are having trouble sleeping, there are MANY things you can try before benzodiazapines. At first I was a little foggy in the morning with trazadone, but I got over that within a week or so. I just feel normal, like everyone else now. I sleep and I cope. ANd I have a sense of humor and love life. I hope no one else ever goes down that road. Happy Saturday, all. > I think it is really interesting that anti depressants helped with spasm and/or swallowing. Again, I DO NOT advocate medical marijuana for A, but I do wonder what the mechanism is for providing some relief. At the time, I took it as evidence that MD's were right and it was " all in my head " . Now I know better and wonder if there is a way to supplement neurotransmitters in way to reduce LES pressure. I too hope someone is researching it. > > Warm aloha, > > > (in Honolulu) > Re: Re: mj- antidepressants > > > The first Dr I saw 4 yrs ago gave me prozac cuz he said I was > panicing and that's why I " imagined " food was getting caught. > > Boy, does that ever sound familiar!!! My first GI wrote in my chart, " patient seems to think food will get stuck in her throat if she swallows it. " By the time I saw my chart, I was no longer his patient, but BOY did that make me see red!!!! > > Not true I know now, but the prozac actually did relax my UES. However, after a couple months the walls were moving and I felt terrible all the time, which my Dr refused to believe, but the cure was worse than the disease, so I ditched the pills. > > After I did, the tightness came back. > > I've never been on Prozac, but a couple years ago I was on Paxil and Wellbutrin. The anti-dep's had no effect on my swallowing, but they DID stop my spasms. I hope someone somewhere is doing research on the connection between serotonin and our NCCP's! > > Debbi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Ok, I'll jump into this one. I take trazadone, which is an antidepressant that is in a class by itself. The SSRI's did not work for me. I suffered a major depression in 92. I had a horrible time with my health and a number of other issues back then, and it hit me like a MACK TRUCK all at once. I tried for 6 horrifying months to find a drug that I could tolerate and that would make me feel better. After 6 months, I saw a new doctor because I was going nowhere fast with the first one, who was a doc from hell, no kidding. On the first visit, this doctor asked me if I had tried trazadone, as it could be used as a sleep inducing med and it was not addictive. My other doctor had me taking some MAJOR stuff but never had me try trazadone. It's a commonly used medicine for people with insomnia. On the first night, I slept 6 hours. That was heaven. At first, he was not using it as an antidepressant, but in a low dose for sleep. In an effort to get me to sleep 8 hours, he upped my dose. BIngo. Well, by the time he upped my dose, I was taking it in antidepressant strength category. Long story short, it was my Godsend. My depression lifted and I have been fine ever since. I still take it. I have tried to get off of it and actually have gotten off of it for 3 months successfully, but once you have suffered a major depression in your life, you are more vulnerable to having more depression. I just stay on it now and have no trouble sleeping or with depression. Also, I don't have very many spasms. Not sure if I just DON " T have many spasms anyway, or if the trazadone helps with that. BUT...the first doctor I saw put me on Ambien and a benzodiasapine. Under her care, I became addicted to Ativan. It was HELL. I loathe this person because she never tried this non addictive sleep aid, trazadone before she put me on something so highly addictive. She said, " don't worry, we can get you off of that later. " GEEZ. It took me three months of HELL to get off of it. Every five hours I felt like someone had put a noose around my neck. And I only took 2 mg doses! But you have to take it 3 times a day. PLEASE, don't take benzodiazapines if you can't sleep. You should only be on them for a max of two months. I am not the " addict " personality. I became addicted and it can happen to anyone. IF you are having trouble sleeping, there are MANY things you can try before benzodiazapines. At first I was a little foggy in the morning with trazadone, but I got over that within a week or so. I just feel normal, like everyone else now. I sleep and I cope. ANd I have a sense of humor and love life. I hope no one else ever goes down that road. Happy Saturday, all. > I think it is really interesting that anti depressants helped with spasm and/or swallowing. Again, I DO NOT advocate medical marijuana for A, but I do wonder what the mechanism is for providing some relief. At the time, I took it as evidence that MD's were right and it was " all in my head " . Now I know better and wonder if there is a way to supplement neurotransmitters in way to reduce LES pressure. I too hope someone is researching it. > > Warm aloha, > > > (in Honolulu) > Re: Re: mj- antidepressants > > > The first Dr I saw 4 yrs ago gave me prozac cuz he said I was > panicing and that's why I " imagined " food was getting caught. > > Boy, does that ever sound familiar!!! My first GI wrote in my chart, " patient seems to think food will get stuck in her throat if she swallows it. " By the time I saw my chart, I was no longer his patient, but BOY did that make me see red!!!! > > Not true I know now, but the prozac actually did relax my UES. However, after a couple months the walls were moving and I felt terrible all the time, which my Dr refused to believe, but the cure was worse than the disease, so I ditched the pills. > > After I did, the tightness came back. > > I've never been on Prozac, but a couple years ago I was on Paxil and Wellbutrin. The anti-dep's had no effect on my swallowing, but they DID stop my spasms. I hope someone somewhere is doing research on the connection between serotonin and our NCCP's! > > Debbi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 lindwood wrote: BUT...the first doctor I saw put me on Ambien and a benzodiasapine. Under her care, I became addicted to Ativan. It was HELL. I loathe this person because she never tried this non addictive sleep aid, trazadone before she put me on something so highly addictive. She said, "don't worry, we can get you off of that later." GEEZ. It took me three months of HELL to get off of it. Every five hours I felt like someone had put a noose around my neck. And I only took 2 mg doses! But you have to take it 3 times a day. PLEASE, don't take benzodiazapines if you can't sleep. You should only be on them for a max of two months. I am I could not agree with you more, I had a very similar experience with Ativan which I had been taking for years and I tried desperately to get off of many times. When I finally bit the bullet and quit it is just as you describe it "PURE HELL" I couldn't sleep I could not sit still I fest as if I was going to either implode or explode. It was one of the worst experiences of my life and I would never except another script for any Benzodiazepine, and would not want anyone to have to go through the withdrawal, it is devastating. Oh, my Dr. prescribed it for my acahalasia because he said there some tests using ativan that indicated it relaxed the les in mice. I wonder how long the mice had to take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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