Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Thanks ! I started Chet on the L-Arginine yesterday - checked with the Dr's and my sister who is a pharmacist (they seem to be more knowledgable on medications) and everyone said that it was fine for him to take now. The spasms are bad, but his old trick of drinking water is now working again, so we are able to get them under control very quickly. I am hoping that after a couple of days on the L-Arginine they will stop. Chet is doing really well. It is amazing to go from so much pain one day to controlable the next. I think by next week he will be bored out of him mind at home! Thanks again for the advice! > To (for Chet) and anyone else post op, > I read that Chet is having some pretty bad spasms right now. Hopefully they will pass quickly and diminish. Some of the worst spasms I've ever had were a few days post op. Many others have commented in the same way. I thought, " oh, man, what have I gone and done to myself THIS TIME???...I've made my spasms worse. " But they subsided rather quickly. I used l-arginine for about a week or two post op. I was told that it might speed healing, and it DID do the trick for quelling my spasms. You might ask your doctor what he thinks. I take it symptomatically if I ever have a day with multiple spasms. Stops them cold, if that is the case. Anyway, for anyone having spasms post op,don't panic...it doesn't necessarily mean they will remain that bad or come that frequently for long. Your E has been through a lot...it must be relieved to have rediscovered it's function and to have released the tension at the sphincter, but it's probably a little ticked off at the same time! (At least that is how I would feel if I were a sphincter, lol.) We do digress in here sometimes. It's a form of therapy, perhaps, to identify with your sphincter and to try to understand it or soothe it's pain! > in HOuston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Hi E, Welcome to our group. I hope your boyfriend continues to recover from his surgery and can better enjoy life now. Please be aware that most surgeons don't seem to comment to their patients ahead of time about the spasms that will follow. I would guess that this is because there focus is the surgery, to give the patient back their ability to get food down once again. This he did. I understand your frustration when you say that " this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! " In a calmer way, the point of the surgery, you know, was to provide a " mechanical, " gravity aided, means of enabling him to eat better. You might say that the spasms are like " insult to injury, " but it happens often. There has been much written over the years about spasms. You can enter the word " spasm " into the search field and find out more information about it than you will find anywhere else in the world. People on this site will also chime in and tell you what works best for them (but not necessarily can you expect what works for them to help your boy friend). The general consensus is that the spasms appear to be at their worst right after surgery and over time will lessen. There are many " do-it-yourself " ways of dealing with spasms. All you need to do is find one that will work and life will immediately get better. I'll put my 2 cents in and let the others speak for themselves. They are probably all bored by now hearing me say this. For my part, the moment I feel it coming on, I'll take a few sips of soda, and it will usually stop within a minute. Failing that, I will place a nifedipine capsule under the tongue and let it dissolve. How fast you do this is key. If I didn't have anything on me, the pain will usually ramp up very fast in intensity and soon reach the " elephant sitting on your chest heart attack pain level. " Sometimes, just eating a cracker or piece of bread does the trick. Let's hope that in his case it does dissipate over time, but if it doesn't there are plenty of ways of dealing with it, most that you will only find here. ________________________________ From: n5ufg <n5ufg@...> achalasia Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:41:04 PM Subject: Spasms after Surgery Hi, I am new to this group. My boyfriend was diagnosed with achalasia 8 months ago and just had his myotomy without fundoplication last week. He is doing well, but he is now getting these weird chest pains or spasms once or twice a day for half an hour or so, which we were not warned about by his surgeon. I have been reading some of the posts here and noticed that this seems common. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how common it is, if it normally gets better as he recovers from surgery, what is causing it, and how to get rid of them. I know that it seems terrible to say, but this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! Anyways I am hoping that it will gradually dissipate over time. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Hi, I am four months post myotomy. I had some severe spasms right after surgery. Now they have become very mild and rare. Most of the time it resolves with a sip of water. My spasms have always been in the night time and has kept me awake for whole night on quite a few occasions. But as everyone has said here before they taper off in a few months so I don't worry about them a lot. As long as swallowing is good everything is good. Ayon > > > Hi E, > > Welcome to our group. I hope your boyfriend continues to recover from his surgery and can better enjoy life now. Please be aware that most surgeons don't seem to comment to their patients ahead of time about the spasms that will follow. I would guess that this is because there focus is the surgery, to give the patient back their ability to get food down once again. This he did. > > I understand your frustration when you say that > > " this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! " > > In a calmer way, the point of the surgery, you know, was to provide a " mechanical, " gravity aided, means of enabling him to eat better. You might say that the spasms are like " insult to injury, " but it happens often. > > There has been much written over the years about spasms. You can enter the word " spasm " into the search field and find out more information about it than you will find anywhere else in the world. People on this site will also chime in and tell you what works best for them (but not necessarily can you expect what works for them to help your boy friend). > > The general consensus is that the spasms appear to be at their worst right after surgery and over time will lessen. There are many " do-it-yourself " ways of dealing with spasms. All you need to do is find one that will work and life will immediately get better. > > I'll put my 2 cents in and let the others speak for themselves. They are probably all bored by now hearing me say this. For my part, the moment I feel it coming on, I'll take a few sips of soda, and it will usually stop within a minute. Failing that, I will place a nifedipine capsule under the tongue and let it dissolve. How fast you do this is key. If I didn't have anything on me, the pain will usually ramp up very fast in intensity and soon reach the " elephant sitting on your chest heart attack pain level. " Sometimes, just eating a cracker or piece of bread does the trick. > > Let's hope that in his case it does dissipate over time, but if it doesn't there are plenty of ways of dealing with it, most that you will only find here. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: n5ufg <n5ufg@...> > achalasia > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:41:04 PM > Subject: Spasms after Surgery > > > Hi, > > I am new to this group. My boyfriend was diagnosed with achalasia 8 months ago and just had his myotomy without fundoplication last week. He is doing well, but he is now getting these weird chest pains or spasms once or twice a day for half an hour or so, which we were not warned about by his surgeon. I have been reading some of the posts here and noticed that this seems common. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how common it is, if it normally gets better as he recovers from surgery, what is causing it, and how to get rid of them. I know that it seems terrible to say, but this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! Anyways I am hoping that it will gradually dissipate over time. > > E > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 The surgeons don't ever seem to warn you about the possibility of spasms afterward, likely so we don't ignore something that is much more serious. I didn't have bad spasms until after my first treatment, a dialation. Then they gradually appeared as my symptoms came back. He needs to eat regularly, keep his esophagus " busy " . For many chugging water with some kind of food that normally sticks seems to stop the spasm if done ASAP. Many have luck with popsicles after surgery. For long term, he might try the 12 hour pain meds, and many of us have help with antidepressants, that help w/ anxiety, and maybe that lessens the spasms. Hard to say. They almost always taper off in time. It is better to have the food going down Good luck Sandy > > Hi, > > I am new to this group. My boyfriend was diagnosed with achalasia 8 months ago and just had his myotomy without fundoplication last week. He is doing well, but he is now getting these weird chest pains or spasms once or twice a day for half an hour or so, which we were not warned about by his surgeon. I have been reading some of the posts here and noticed that this seems common. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how common it is, if it normally gets better as he recovers from surgery, what is causing it, and how to get rid of them. I know that it seems terrible to say, but this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! Anyways I am hoping that it will gradually dissipate over time. > > E > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thanks so much everyone for your advice. I have been looking in to the suggestions posted by other members for lessening the spasms. As I said, I hope they go away or become infrequent with time. Yesterday he didn't even have one, which may be a sign they are subsiding, too early to tell yet. Anyways thanks again! E > > Hi, > > I am new to this group. My boyfriend was diagnosed with achalasia 8 months ago and just had his myotomy without fundoplication last week. He is doing well, but he is now getting these weird chest pains or spasms once or twice a day for half an hour or so, which we were not warned about by his surgeon. I have been reading some of the posts here and noticed that this seems common. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how common it is, if it normally gets better as he recovers from surgery, what is causing it, and how to get rid of them. I know that it seems terrible to say, but this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! Anyways I am hoping that it will gradually dissipate over time. > > E > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hi -I have written before about the spasms after a Heller. I take nifeditine and it helps almost immediately. I use the gelatin capsule and break it with my teeth and move it under my tongue. It takes a few minutes, but the pain is gone. You might ask your doctor about this. > > > > Hi, > > > > I am new to this group. My boyfriend was diagnosed with achalasia 8 months ago and just had his myotomy without fundoplication last week. He is doing well, but he is now getting these weird chest pains or spasms once or twice a day for half an hour or so, which we were not warned about by his surgeon. I have been reading some of the posts here and noticed that this seems common. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how common it is, if it normally gets better as he recovers from surgery, what is causing it, and how to get rid of them. I know that it seems terrible to say, but this pain almost seems worse than the difficulty swallowing, so what was the point of the surgery?! Anyways I am hoping that it will gradually dissipate over time. > > > > E > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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