Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Nordic Naturals is a company that produces purified Arctic cod liver oil capsules. the children's are strawberry flavored with vitamin E and small in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 In a message dated 10/11/2001 7:50:55 PM Central Daylight Time, kjorn@... writes: > The standard balanced ratios are usually for a non- > neurologically challenged person. Based on that, I would guess the > EPA formula. It has some balance but is heavy on the EPA. Hopefully, > one of us will come across something more specific on this. > , I recently printed an article by Kane, PhD (The Neurobiology of Lipids in Autistic Spectrum Disorder), which appeared in Dr.Mercola'snewsletter of December 12, 1999 (www.mercola.com/1999/dec/12/lipids_in_autism.htm). It's my impression that she is highly regarded in the autism world, but it is also my observation that sometimes her writing is clear as mud. Her specialty, as you may know, is EFAs. One good quote: " Omega 6 essential fatty acids (in this case the precursor PG1 as evening primrose oil) must be repleted and stabilized before omega 3 supplementation commences. " And this: " ...loading with antioxidants or the incorrect sequence of EFA repletion may impede progress in ASD presentation. " Last one: " Medicine has been slow to acknowledge the crucial lipid requirements (4 to 1 ratio of omega 6 to omega 3...to address neurological degeneration... " My thinking is fuzzy this evening, but it seems to my ailing brain that her stance is quite different from many that you quoted from the conference. Looking forward to some reconciliation of these two viewpoints, as I'm wanting to commence EFA supplementation myself. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 I know he said his book was written based on recommendations for the general population and, maybe, includes some stuff for other select groups he has worked with, like depression or ADD. But he said that autism was relatively new for him and he wanted to do more research in this area. He was clear that the DHA was found to be not the form doing the main work (as thought before) and it was the EPA to go for now. Most people in the autism, ADD, bipolar, depression categories are VERY deficient in the EPA and already have more of the other ones. The standard balanced ratios are usually for a non- neurologically challenged person. Based on that, I would guess the EPA formula. It has some balance but is heavy on the EPA. Hopefully, one of us will come across something more specific on this. > EPA FORMULA > EPA per capsule: 450 > DHA per capsule: 100 mg. > Other Omega 3 50 mg > ------------- > OMEGA 3 FORMULA > EPA per capsule: 180 mg > DHA per capsule: 120 mg. > Other Omega 3 50 mg > --------------- > Ultimate Omega FORMULA > DHA per capsule: 99 mg. > GLA: 40 mg EPA per capsule: 148 mg. Oleic Acid: 29mg. Other omega- 3: 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Ok, everyone. I do urge you all to check out the website I listed earlier on this issue. Studies have already been done with special needs kids with communications disorders neurological in nature...apraxia and autism. The product used has EPA, DHA, Omega 6 in the formof Borage oil and GLA. The product has already demonstrated remarkable success. So, again, is this one of issues where we need 10 years of clinical trials before we believe? Especially when this is a dietary supplement that is necessary to all of us for optimal performance...the neurologically impaired just need it even further to function at a NT level. The way I understand it, even if we see some untoward behavior as a result of improper balancing, we can work the balancing out but we need to supplement OUR ENTIRE FAMILY with this stuff for all of the reasons that even traditional western medicine recognizes...cardio vascular function, vision, neuro pathways, etc. I think if we just don't make any other changes for a couple of weeks before and after adding the supplements, we will get a good handle on whether we need to balance (via observing behavioral problems), or whether the child is tolerating it fine and needs time to work on his/her side. Maybe I am ignorant or hopeful, but I don't see a downside to trying this, if it is done correctly... and we don't even need a doctor to tell us if it is being done correctly...just our own eyes, ears, and a motivation to be objective! What an empowering therapy! Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Well, just like everything else in the world of autism, Ms. Kane's opinion is.... controversial, in many circles. Dr. Stoll is obviously not doing this entirely objectively either, as he has the book, the retail fatty acid product and so on, to sell. I would be interested in hearing them debate fatty acid approaches for children with autism. I also feel that they might have stark differences of opinion. Hard to know who's really the expert in this gang, as the traditional medical world pretty much disbelieves the whole lot of them,and most of us don't happen to have a degree in fatty acid chemistry, to know enough to tell who has the best handle on this whole thing. Terri At 10:43 PM 10/11/01 -0400, you wrote: > > In a message dated 10/11/2001 7:50:55 PM Central Daylight Time, > kjorn@... writes: > > > > The standard balanced ratios are usually for a non- > > neurologically challenged person. Based on that, I would guess the > > EPA formula. It has some balance but is heavy on the EPA. Hopefully, > > one of us will come across something more specific on this. > > > > > , > I recently printed an article by Kane, PhD (The Neurobiology of > Lipids in Autistic Spectrum Disorder), which appeared in > Dr.Mercola'snewsletter of December 12, 1999 > (www.mercola.com/1999/dec/12/lipids_in_autism.htm). It's my impression that > she is highly regarded in the autism world, but it is also my observation > that sometimes her writing is clear as mud. Her specialty, as you may know, > is EFAs. > > One good quote: " Omega 6 essential fatty acids (in this case the precursor > PG1 as evening primrose oil) must be repleted and stabilized before omega 3 > supplementation commences. " > > And this: " ...loading with antioxidants or the incorrect sequence of EFA > repletion may impede progress in ASD presentation. " > > Last one: " Medicine has been slow to acknowledge the crucial lipid > requirements (4 to 1 ratio of omega 6 to omega 3...to address neurological > degeneration... " > > My thinking is fuzzy this evening, but it seems to my ailing brain that her > stance is quite different from many that you quoted from the conference. > Looking forward to some reconciliation of these two viewpoints, as I'm > wanting to commence EFA supplementation myself. > n > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 In a message dated 10/12/2001 12:54:47 AM Central Daylight Time, tmykland@... writes: > Well, just like everything else in the world of autism, Ms. Kane's opinion > is.... controversial, in many circles. Dr. Stoll is obviously not doing > this > entirely objectively either, as he has the book, the retail fatty acid > product > and so on, to sell. I would be interested in hearing them debate fatty acid > approaches for children with autism. I also feel that they might have > stark > differences of opinion. Hard to know who's really the expert in this gang, > as > the traditional medical world pretty much disbelieves the whole lot of > them,and > most of us don't happen to have a degree in fatty acid chemistry, to know > enough to tell who has the best handle on this whole thing. > Terri, As we often say in our family... " What she said! " Thanks for saying it so well and succinctly. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 When you go to the site, click on " Retailers. " That page has an " order " button at the bottom, click on that, and it will take you to a page that has a " search store " button, clicl that, and type proefa in the search box. That will take you to it. I don't know why they made it so difficult to find! Karla in Texas wrote: > I have gone to the Nordic Naturals site, but I can't find anything > actually > called " ProEFA. " Is it listed under a different name, now? > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Yes, they have a website - you can also buy it from Kirkmans and, of all things, from Longs drugs, where it's a little cheaper. > is nordic naturals brand cod liver oil available online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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