Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 The spasms that most achalasia patients have, is or can be extremely painful. I don't think what you are describing is the typical achalasia spasms. In severe cased they can mimic the pain of a heart attack, with pain starting in the chest and traveling down the left arm. I would feel faint turn very pale and sweat profusely. That has been my experience anyway Ed Fitz are these spasms? Can anyone help? I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms? thanks so much, Shirley (UK) Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.http://uk.docs./mail_storage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 > > > > Can anyone help? >Shirley, Hard to say, but I'd guess that if they are spasms, they are not the major " Beatles chord " spasms that many of us in here know about. WHen you get what most of us refer to as a full fledged spasm, it feels like a heart attack...pain often radiates through to the back, possibly up the neck, into the jaw and even up to the ears! (Someone posted a few months ago about the " beatle Chord " attention grabbing kind....like the first chord in the Beatle's song, " A Hard Day's Night " . I thought that was the weirdest, but most perfect analogy to what a spasm is like.) Full fledged spasms stop you in your tracks. You can't think of anything but HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS??? Water gulping helps many of us, along with a wide assortment of other remedies ranging from arginine to cola syrup to cold milk, to warm water, to drinking a coke, eating bread, peppermint extract or altoids. I hope I haven't left out anyone elses' preferred quick fix. Discomfort might be a word for it at the very beginning, but a spasm is more than discomfort. It's PAIN! The sounds you hear are something that I think a number of us also experience...perhaps its like a faulty valve response...quivery or weak, or little spasms. I often thought that my noises in my throat could even be reproduced with certain body positions. Those noises are a little vague to us, maybe someone else really knows what's happening with the " drain pipe " or the gurgling sounds. We await enlightenment from someone wise re: gurgles. I'm taking off for the Smoky Mountains tomorrow, so I will be out of pocket for about 11 days. Good luck to all of you awaiting your procedures and surgeries. I will catch up when I get back. I have to go to the lumber yard and pick up a few 2x4 wood blocks to lug along to put under the head of the beds along the way... It's always so much fun to completely strip a hotel bed, lift the mattress, and put those blocks under the legs of the king sized bed....you know they have a middle leg that makes it such that you can't just lift the sides..I wonder how many maids wonder why their neat handiwork on the hospital corners came undone!! LInda from Hot HOT Houston, seeking cooler weather and SCENIC nature! > I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms? > > thanks so much, > > Shirley (UK) > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs. > > http://uk.docs./mail_storage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 lindwoodwebtv wrote: > > > > Can anyone help?>Shirley, Hard to say, but I'd guess that if they are spasms, they are not the major "Beatles chord" spasms that many of us in here know about. WHen you get what most of us refer to as a full fledged spasm, it feels like a heart attack...pain often radiates through to the back, possibly up the neck, into the jaw and even up to the ears! (Someone posted a few months ago about the "beatle Chord" attention grabbing kind....like the first chord in the Beatle's song, "A Hard Day's Night". I thought that was the weirdest, but most perfect analogy to what a spasm is like.) Full fledged spasms stop you in your tracks. You can't think of anything but HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS???Water gulping helps many of us, along with a wide assortment of other remedies ranging from arginine to cola syrup to cold milk, to warm water, to drinking a coke, eating bread, peppermint extract or altoids. I hope I haven't left out anyone elses' preferred quick fix. Discomfort might be a word for it at the very beginning, but a spasm is more than discomfort. It's PAIN! The sounds you hear are something that I think a number of us also experience...perhaps its like a faulty valve response...quivery or weak, or little spasms. I often thought that my noises in my throat could even be reproduced with certain body positions. Those noises are a little vague to us, maybe someone else really knows what's happening with the "drain pipe" or the gurgling sounds. We await enlightenment from someone wise re: gurgles. I'm taking off for the Smoky Mountains tomorrow, so I will be out of pocket for about 11 days. Good luck to all of you awaiting your procedures and surgeries. I will catch up when I get back. I have to go to the lumber yard and pick up a few 2x4 wood blocks to lug along to put under the head of the beds along the way... It's always so much fun to completely strip a hotel bed, lift the mattress, and put those blocks under the legs of the king sized bed....you know they have a middle leg that makes it such that you can't just lift the sides..I wonder how many maids wonder why their neat handiwork on the hospital corners came undone!! LInda from Hot HOT Houston, seeking cooler weather and SCENIC nature!> I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms?> > thanks so much,> > Shirley (UK)> > > > > ---------------------------------> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.> > http://uk.docs./mail_storage.htmlHello all achalasia friends, I too suffer from this. It is so bad I am in search of disability benefits to help me get a surgery and hopefully work again without these spasms. I take benedryl for the spasms when extreme and do a breathing exercise count to six then inhale and count to six then exhale while in a squating position with shoulderblades separated. I drink a bit of water while this is happening and try to relax thinking of none stressful things like wide open fields of flowers and smiling faces. This is emotionally tough for me afterwards, especially when it happens in a public place. Benedryl alergy capsuls, the pink package is what calms them fast and keeps them away for me. Beware of the drowsyness though, that can really get ya I talked a doctor into giving me davocet, it works like a dream, you have a feeling of normalness without pain and it helps food go down easier with a relaxed esophogus.I suggest people should try these methods but darvocet watch out for the amount, constipation and nausea will get you if you take too much without food, I managed 20 pills within 5 months by cutting in half and only when I felt a pain attack coming. Darvocet may make things worse if you panic or have an empty stomach so be carefull Take care to all - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Hi , I need to ask you, is Darvocet a pain medication, narcotic? I've taken Vicodin before when I've had spasms, just left over stuff I had from dental procedures, and that works like a dream too, but pretty soon I am off to dream land!! Do you take it right when a spasm hits, or on a regular basis? I take Valium, when I feel one coming on, and that seems to work for me. Sometimes I have to take two, but that's ok. I've become adjusted to it and I can handle two of them. 5mg tablets. It's a miracle for me...no one should have to suffer through a spasm. Doctors should prescribe relaxants or pain relievers for anyone suffering with these horrible spasms. A long time ago, someone also posted on here about a medication called STADOL. It is a nose spray, and it works INSTANTLY. I have not asked my doctor about this yet, I will when the valium no longer works. The person who posted about that med called it a MIRACLE MED FOR SPASMS. Has anyone else tried it since that posting? One thing about the spasms for me is that I've learned not to be ashamed, and to ask my doctor for drugs. I used to feel like they were going to view me as a " drug seeker " or something, but now I don't care. We all have genuine problems. Our doctors know this. They should be sympathetic and give us something that we think may work. If they don't, perhaps we should find new doctors. Just my venting session for the day. in MI > Hello all achalasia friends, > > I too suffer from this. It is so bad I am in search > of disability benefits to help me get a surgery and > hopefully work again without these spasms. I take > benedryl for the spasms when extreme and do a > breathing exercise count to six then inhale and > count to six then exhale while in a squating > position with shoulderblades separated. I drink a > bit of water while this is happening and try to > relax thinking of none stressful things like wide > open fields of flowers and smiling faces. This is > emotionally tough for me afterwards, especially when > it happens in a public place. Benedryl alergy > capsuls, the pink package is what calms them fast > and keeps them away for me. Beware of the drowsyness > though, that can really get ya I talked a doctor > into giving me davocet, it works like a dream, you > have a feeling of normalness without pain and it > helps food go down easier with a relaxed esophogus.I > suggest people should try these methods but darvocet > watch out for the amount, constipation and nausea > will get you if you take too much without food, I > managed 20 pills within 5 months by cutting in half > and only when I felt a pain attack coming. Darvocet > may make things worse if you panic or have an empty > stomach so be carefull Take care to all - > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 shirley fox <blaggers_united@...> wrote: shirley hello well I had the operation and yes have these awful noises in my esphogus no wouldnt say they were spasms, just annoying at times sounds like a drain pipe hehehe, but the doctor warned me I could get something like this, at least its not painful, and am so pleased since the operation i havent had to take pills to eat, sometimes the it feels like it wont go down but does alot easier than it did before the surgery, and twice had the actual trouble where it wouldnt go down at all, but that is all, nothing like it used to be, but must admit this noise and gurgling is annoying I find it seems to build up then makes me burp anyways hopefully one day it will settle down. sue Can anyone help? I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms? thanks so much, Shirley (UK) Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.http://uk.docs./mail_storage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 I get these strange sounds but it is only occasional. I have them for about a day and then they stop. Its strange but when I have them it feels like something has gotten out of alignment or something. Its the strangest feeling really. It usually makes me feel like throwing up - it doesn't make me that sick but it just feels so strange. I definitely don't feel normal during the times when I have all the noises. Anybody else similar? jennifer > > shirley hello well I had the operation and yes have these awful noises in my esphogus no wouldnt say they were spasms, just annoying at times sounds like a drain pipe hehehe, but the doctor warned me I could get something like this, at least its not painful, and am so pleased since the operation i havent had to take pills to eat, sometimes the it feels like it wont go down but does alot easier than it did before the surgery, and twice had the actual trouble where it wouldnt go down at all, but that is all, nothing like it used to be, but must admit this noise and gurgling is annoying I find it seems to build up then makes me burp anyways hopefully one day it will settle down. > > > > sue > > > Can anyone help? > > I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms? > > thanks so much, > > Shirley (UK) > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs. > > http://uk.docs./mail_storage.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Definately not spasms, but I too had those awful gurgling, drainpipe noises before and after my myotomy. Then one day, I realized, they were gone!!! They were so loud that anyone could hear them, at work, home, anytime...very embarassing!!!!!! Hopefully, they will go away for you, like they did for me...good luck to you all with the "drainpipe problem" in MI jennlee_2 wrote: I get these strange sounds but it is only occasional. I have them for about a day and then they stop. Its strange but when I have them it feels like something has gotten out of alignment or something. Its the strangest feeling really.It usually makes me feel like throwing up - it doesn't make me that sick but it just feels so strange. I definitely don't feel normal during the times when I have all the noises.Anybody else similar?jennifer > > shirley hello well I had the operation and yes have these awful noises in my esphogus no wouldnt say they were spasms, just annoying at times sounds like a drain pipe hehehe, but the doctor warned me I could get something like this, at least its not painful, and am so pleased since the operation i havent had to take pills to eat, sometimes the it feels like it wont go down but does alot easier than it did before the surgery, and twice had the actual trouble where it wouldnt go down at all, but that is all, nothing like it used to be, but must admit this noise and gurgling is annoying I find it seems to build up then makes me burp anyways hopefully one day it will settle down.> > > > sue> > > Can anyone help?> > I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms?> > thanks so much,> > Shirley (UK)> > > > > ---------------------------------> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.> > http://uk.docs./mail_storage.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Definately not spasms, but I too had those awful gurgling, drainpipe noises before and after my myotomy. Then one day, I realized, they were gone!!! They were so loud that anyone could hear them, at work, home, anytime...very embarassing!!!!!! Hopefully, they will go away for you, like they did for me...good luck to you all with the "drainpipe problem" in MI jennlee_2 wrote: I get these strange sounds but it is only occasional. I have them for about a day and then they stop. Its strange but when I have them it feels like something has gotten out of alignment or something. Its the strangest feeling really.It usually makes me feel like throwing up - it doesn't make me that sick but it just feels so strange. I definitely don't feel normal during the times when I have all the noises.Anybody else similar?jennifer > > shirley hello well I had the operation and yes have these awful noises in my esphogus no wouldnt say they were spasms, just annoying at times sounds like a drain pipe hehehe, but the doctor warned me I could get something like this, at least its not painful, and am so pleased since the operation i havent had to take pills to eat, sometimes the it feels like it wont go down but does alot easier than it did before the surgery, and twice had the actual trouble where it wouldnt go down at all, but that is all, nothing like it used to be, but must admit this noise and gurgling is annoying I find it seems to build up then makes me burp anyways hopefully one day it will settle down.> > > > sue> > > Can anyone help?> > I've never really suffered from spasms, but since having my myotomy my stomache?eosophegus makes weired noises like air is being forced out of my stomache , it hurts but is more uncomfortable than painfull. Are these spasms?> > thanks so much,> > Shirley (UK)> > > > > ---------------------------------> Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs.> > http://uk.docs./mail_storage.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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