Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 In a message dated 10/9/2001 7:09:35 AM Central Daylight Time, vzoelen@... writes: << On the other hand, we all know that Achalasia patients suffer from heartburn. >> Joop, I never had heartburn. Two different doctors told me at the time of scoping that there was no acid in my stomach. I was afraid after my dilatation that I might start having heartburn but so far that has not happened. The dilatation was done on September 19th. Maybe I didn't have heartburn because I regretted most of my food or as you say what did not manage to get into the stomach. The only times I have ever had heartburn at all was prior to developing Achalasia, or at least before I ever had any of the symptoms. Only then when I ate very spicy foods and too much of it at one time. After I began the regurgitation I didn't have the heartburn at all. Magg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Hallo Everyone, In response to Flora Alyce and Havi about the relation between GERD and achalasia, I think we should discriminate different situations. GERD occurs much more frequently than achalasia, generally because the lower esophageal sphincter is too relaxed or the peristaltic movement of the esophagus does not work properly. On the other hand, we all know that achalasia patients suffer from heartburn. The possibility that this heartburn is not caused by stomach acid but by fermentation of remaining food in the esophagus is often heard, but does not explain why this heartburn can be prevented by Losec, which specifically blocks gastric acid acid production and not fermentation in the esophagus. In my opinion the fermentation theory can only be valid under severe achalasia conditions where uptake by the stomach is strongly limited and the esophagus is constantly filled with food remnants and water. Reflux of gastric acid under these conditions will not cause heartburn, because the acid is buffered by the fluid in the esophagus. Under most achalasia conditions, however, we have problems to get our food into the stomach, but with some effort it finally works out and in between our meals the esophagus is largely empty. A normal esophagus is a flexible tube that can open and close when necessary. An achalasia esophagus can at best be considered as a stiff funnel, with a broad tube and a small, inflexible ending. Because the funnel is smaller than the tube we have problems to get the food into our stomach. The stiff funnel is not fully closed, however, because the sphincter cannot relax. Through this opening gastric acid can reflux into the esophagus. What we do with a dilatation is to mechanically increase the diameter of the funnel, with the consequence that food gets easier into the stomach, but the gastric acid also gets up easier into the esophagus. If someone knows of alternative interpretations, I would be interested to hear them. Joop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 I have achalasia and also a large pocket in the esophagus near the cardia valve for food to ferment in. I almost never have heartburn, but then I never let food accumulate in the esophagus. I drop it into the stomach and then flush the last bits in with water. The cardia valve is not relaxed normally but constricted. It is relaxed to let food into the stomach. I have never had any treatment for achalasia. I believe the treatment opens the cardia valve and often prevents it from fully closing, thus permitting heartburn. ---------- From: vzoelen@...[sMTP:vzoelen@...] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 5:07 AM achalasia Subject: achalasia & GERD Hallo Everyone, In response to Flora Alyce and Havi about the relation between GERD and achalasia, I think we should discriminate different situations. GERD occurs much more frequently than achalasia, generally because the lower esophageal sphincter is too relaxed or the peristaltic movement of the esophagus does not work properly. On the other hand, we all know that achalasia patients suffer from heartburn. The possibility that this heartburn is not caused by stomach acid but by fermentation of remaining food in the esophagus is often heard, but does not explain why this heartburn can be prevented by Losec, which specifically blocks gastric acid acid production and not fermentation in the esophagus. In my opinion the fermentation theory can only be valid under severe achalasia conditions where uptake by the stomach is strongly limited and the esophagus is constantly filled with food remnants and water. Reflux of gastric acid under these conditions will not cause heartburn, because the acid is buffered by the fluid in the esophagus. Under most achalasia conditions, however, we have problems to get our food into the stomach, but with some effort it finally works out and in between our meals the esophagus is largely empty. A normal esophagus is a flexible tube that can open and close when necessary. An achalasia esophagus can at best be considered as a stiff funnel, with a broad tube and a small, inflexible ending. Because the funnel is smaller than the tube we have problems to get the food into our stomach. The stiff funnel is not fully closed, however, because the sphincter cannot relax. Through this opening gastric acid can reflux into the esophagus. What we do with a dilatation is to mechanically increase the diameter of the funnel, with the consequence that food gets easier into the stomach, but the gastric acid also gets up easier into the esophagus. If someone knows of alternative interpretations, I would be interested to hear them. Joop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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