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In a message dated 2/21/99 2:23:56 AM Central Standard Time,

onelist writes:

<< Does anyone worry about the long term effects of all this medication?>>

I'm taking meds for PA plus hypertension and type 2 Diabetes. Sometime in the

past five years or so I suffered a " silent " heart attack that wasn't detected

until a few years after it happened--luckily no lingering damage to the heart.

I, too am taking antidepressants and

still working.

It sounds like your PA is worse than mine, but in answer to your question, yes

I do worry about the long-term effect of the meds at times. But on the other

hand I also think about what my life would be like if I weren't taking the

meds. I know that without my PA meds I would be in a wheelchair by now--at

least I can get around with a help of a cane.

I know what it's like to be depressed, and in addition to your meds, I wonder

if you're getting some counseling or therapy. You seem to see your glass as

half-empty, but when I read about what you've accomplished--getting a BA and

entering Law School--those are incredible accomplishments for someone

*without* a disability! A good therapist can help you see how much you've

been able to do and at the same time help you learn to accept the limitations

this blankety-blank disease has imposed on you.

Get professional help and good luck--you've got a lot going for you!

RD

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Dear Lesli,

I agree that in children OCD often walks hand in hand with

depression. , my ten year old, had terrible depression - veyr tearful,

suggested we would be better off without her, etc. I immediately called her

therapist as well as the MD. We upped her meds (Prozac) and she responded

fairly quickly. I can understand how they must be depressed - no child wants

to be different . In addition, that element of shame makes it difficult for

them to gain any peer support for their efforts.

Insist that the dr. listen to you about this!!! Possibly write down

some of your daughter's comments and observations you have made about her,

then bring the entire diary with you. Unfortunately, we have to be strong

advocates for our children in order for them to receive the best treatment.

Good luck!

Gail

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I live in Arlington, VA and the county has a good Parent Infant Education

program for families with children having disabilities.

They have a parent to parent coordinator that calls once a month to check up

on us and they have two evening coffee hour-parent support meetings. These

are for parents with children having any type of disability. They have two a

month. One for parents with kids under age 6/7 and the other for those with

older children. Works out well. There is not a support group specifically

for those with DS kids which I would like. They did hook us up with another

family with twins and one with triplets (each having one DS child). We just

communicate via email - no meetings.

Kay (mom to , , -ds, 7 mos. old)

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Just having a teenager is enough to make anyone suicidal. Trust me on

this one, its like a " right of passage " for adults. You get them when

they are cute and cuddly, then they grow, and try to see how much any

one person can take. After the teen years, you just hope that they have

become human again. The combo just seems to add to the problem, but,

just try to smile, and use lots of duct tape and velcro. But, seriously,

some of this is very normal and you have a double whammy with a

teenager. Good luck. Marty

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To ,

My side effects are usully shortness of breath and rapid heart

palpitations. Sometimes nausea and light headedness if I continue to

move at a quik pace when my heart is racing. The 'quick pace' could be

climbing a staircase, walking my dog, or talking rapidly.

Please keep us all posted and updated on any information you may have.

Thank you

Kalidurga

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To ,

My side effects are usully shortness of breath and rapid heart

palpitations. Sometimes nausea and light headedness if I continue to

move at a quik pace when my heart is racing. The 'quick pace' could be

climbing a staircase, walking my dog, or talking rapidly.

Please keep us all posted and updated on any information you may have.

Thank you

Kalidurga

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What a terrible shame that these bandits are causing so many to abandon this

wonderful group. When I first had my implant and found it a God send, very

supportive, consoling, and it brought me some peace. I hope many of you wll

reconsider. I don't know what can be done about the spam, but something can

be done. It is a great shame to lose this wonderful group because of some

nitwits Best wishes from Theo.

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I did unscribe because of the spaming, however, somehow I'm back with this

great group of zapper's.

Thank goodness,

If I come across any more of that foolishness I will report it to aol.

Ebe46@...

k Goodness

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My son is 27 months old and only says about 5 words, most unintelligable except to me and sometimes his dad, we are in the process of getting him diagnosed, but everyone keeps telling me they won't diagnose him before the age of 3. We live in Southern California, and if anyone can help me with this, it would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Kari

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Tim:

Thank you so much for your hints. I will remember them. This is going to be

something else. I survived gastric bypass surgery, lower body lift, and now

this. I will be a new person when I'm finished. lol

Will keep you posted on my progress.

You are doing great. You will be my inspiration.

Carole - AKA Thorn Willowweb, AKA Daisy Proudfoot of Standelf.

God grant me the Senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the

good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the

difference.

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I think I lost my mind, so watch where you step!

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This is so cool - I did gastric bypass too. However, I am not far

enough out to do any plastic surgery. I am hoping that with a new

hip I will be able to walk off much of this fat apron.

PatT

Down 55#; another 45 to go

THR on May 7th

> Tim:

>

> Thank you so much for your hints. I will remember them. This is

going to be

> something else. I survived gastric bypass surgery, lower body lift,

and now

> this. I will be a new person when I'm finished. lol

>

> Will keep you posted on my progress.

>

> You are doing great. You will be my inspiration.

>

> Carole - AKA Thorn Willowweb, AKA Daisy Proudfoot of Standelf.

>

> God grant me the Senility to forget the people I never liked

anyway, the

> good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the

> difference.

> ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.»§«©©©»§«·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·

> I think I lost my mind, so watch where you step!

>

·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.»§«©©©»§«·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·

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Think positive! I lost 20 pounds during the process.

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: pddt2928 [mailto:pdonnellyt@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:19 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Digest Number 75This is so cool - I did gastric bypass too. However, I am not far enough out to do any plastic surgery. I am hoping that with a new hip I will be able to walk off much of this fat apron.PatTDown 55#; another 45 to goTHR on May 7th> Tim:> > Thank you so much for your hints. I will remember them. This is going to be> something else. I survived gastric bypass surgery, lower body lift, and now> this. I will be a new person when I'm finished. lol> > Will keep you posted on my progress.> > You are doing great. You will be my inspiration.> > Carole - AKA Thorn Willowweb, AKA Daisy Proudfoot of Standelf.> > God grant me the Senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the> good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the> difference.> ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.»§«©©©»§«·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·> I think I lost my mind, so watch where you step!> ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.»§«©©©»§«·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·

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Re:Message: 22

Nelly-

I'm doing okay generally. I've had more nausea

reaction to the flagyl, which I tak for three days

once a week at this point. Can't seem to tolerate more

than three days of it both stomach wise and herx wise.

I was doing fine on yeeast with once a day Threelac,

then neglected it for a couple weeks and seem to be

herxing from starting again-- a lot of pain last night

after taking a packet of the threelac which had not

been happening when I was regular with it. C'est la

Chlamydia!

My understanding of why Stratton lists certain agents

as " preferred " is that in his patented testing

procedures these are the ones that have shown the most

broad anti-chlamydial action to the particular phase

of the organsim they are directed at. The key thing is

to use two agents that supress the replicating phase--

eg doxy/zithro-- and drive the organism into the

non-replicating phase where it can be killed by the

bacteriacidal eg flagyl. This is why Wheldon says to

continue on the abx while you are pulsing the flagyl--

to keep as much of the replicating bacteria

suppressed, limit the cryptic phase from coming out of

the cells (where the flagyl kills it) and becoming

replicating again. I don't quite understand this third

phase he talks about, but Stratton didn't seem to

emphasize it in his brief response to my email, just

saying the niacinamide dose I am taking is " okay. "

How are you reacting to the tinidazole? I may need to

shift to it if I build up more stomach problems from

the flagyl. It's great news that your blood and immune

profile is improving on this. A clear sign that you

are steadily reducing the bacterial load, in addition

to feeling better! Yeah!

Jim

Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:21:24 +0200

From: " Nelly Pointis " <janel@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Nelly- Part Deux

Jim,

Thanks,

Is metronidazole prefered bec that's the most used and

easy to get

imidazole in the USA or is it bec of special

properties (like the fact that

metronidazole has a smaller molecular weight than

tinidazole)? I've

never heard of the other -azoles listed except for

benzimidazole.

>Of the abx for the replicating phase he lists a

bunch.

>Your spiramycine isn't on the list.

I'm not surprised it's an oldish macrolide, it is sold

in France but it

might not even be easily got in other less fortunate

countries (France

has more abx available than any other countries, it

even has its own

abx that NOONE else has, like pristinamycine which is

a combo of 2

macrolides working synergestically, Bleu knows this

one)

I am thinking of switching the cycline, I am using

doxy 200 mg at the

moment with spiramycine (macrolide) and I am thinking

of switching to

minocycline 100 mg + a macrolide (maybe my French

pristinamycine).

I don't want to draw conclusions too fast but I have

been on a kind of

a Stratton/Wheldon protocol for 2 months now and I

think I am doing

quite well (for me that means being able to go

shopping for food once a

week, and spending only 90% of my time in bed). I am

about to go on my

second 5 day stint of tinidazole (unlike what Wheldon

says to do, I go

OFF my other abx to take the tinidazole).

I am also taking 300 mg of artemisinin (Allergy

Reseach), and after

several of THEM headaches, I seem to be sailing along

OK now after 3 weeks

on artemisinin. My eyes are less sore, I can stay in

front of the

computer for a bit longer, hence this update.

My latest blood tests showed an increase in RBCs,

neutrophils,

lymphocytes, platelets into normal ranges (I nearly

always am below range in

neutrophils, and quite low on the others, all near

bottom of normal

range)

Nelly

[infections] Re: Nelly- Part

Deux

Nelly-

Looking over Stratton's patent materials, in his

list

of " Antichlamydial Therapy Directed Toward the

Initial

Stage of Chlamydia Infection, " the " cryptic " growth

phase which occurs within the host cell, he lists:

metronidazole (preferred), tinidazole, bamnidazole,

benzinidazole, flunidazole, ipronidazole,

misonidazole, moxnidazole, ronidazole, sulnidazole.

Also he lists nitrofurans class meds: nitrofurantoin

(preferred), nitrofurazone, nifurtimox and about 5

others.

He then adds a third catagory for a " unique class of

antichlamydial agents " which effect both the

replicating and cryptic stationary phase (using his

susceptibility tests in the patent) which include

isoniazid (INH- preferred) niacin, nicotinic acid,

pyrazinamide, ethionamide and aconiazide. (I have

added 1000mg of niacinamide to my regime because of

this-- seems to potentiate the abx a bit)

Of the abx for the replicating phase he lists a

bunch.

Your spiramycine isn't on the list. Preferred are

levofloxacin, sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim,

azithromycin, clarythromycin, minicycline and

rifampin. Others are listed as well.

Hope this helps,

Jim

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