Re: herx mycoplasma co-infections

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In a message dated 8/13/99 1:32:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

SWNGDABOAT@... writes:

> what is herx the abbreviation for?

ann this might be a stupid answer...lol but it is

Jarisch-Herzheimer reaction,

I am not sure but some Drs are afraid of it and some expect it to happen and

just lower dosages of abx when it does.

Don't quote me but it is a die off of an organism,that I react to ,those die

offs can cause more symtoms, I have had allergic reactions prior to cfids and

I know it does not feel that way, but in my case it is like a war, either it

is the die off or the organism wanting to stay put,

I have cut down the abx's and also lately I haven't, I drink the lemon and

olive oil mixture, that really does help. besides keeping up with the water.

I had a wonderful link to the explaination of the herx and when it was

noticed, hope to find it again....

Susy.....

PS: I have a myco infection in the blood found thru pcr testing, we do not

know the name or dna of it, came up negative on all other popular ones that

are being spoken of with GWI,CFS,FMS.,

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At 04:18 PM 8/13/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: SUSYDOG@...

>

>In a message dated 8/13/99 1:32:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>SWNGDABOAT@... writes:

>

>>

>Susy.....

>PS: I have a myco infection in the blood found thru pcr testing, we do not

>know the name or dna of it, came up negative on all other popular ones that

>are being spoken of with GWI,CFS,FMS.,

>

>HI,

What is pcr testing? I am STILL trying to get testing for myco, etc!

Thanks,

Christie

tab@...

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Um.....know what? I didn't write that .....someone else must have

accidentally lifted it off of another post and my name got on it somehow......

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In a message dated 8/20/99 11:47:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tab@...

writes:

> What is pcr testing? I am STILL trying to get testing for myco, etc!

Hi Christie.....

>

Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a technique which is used to amplify the

number of copies of a specific region of DNA, in order to produce enough DNA

to be adequately tested. This technique can be used to identify with a very

high-probability, disease-causing viruses and/or bacteria, a deceased person,

or a criminal suspect.

In order to use PCR, one must already know the exact sequences

<A HREF= " http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~jbrown/pcr.html " >What the Heck is

PCR?</A>

http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~jbrown/pcr.html

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Hi Susydog,

Thank you for this site. I will be reading and re reading. Who ordered

this testing for you - PCP, specialist, or alternative DR? I have not

heard of this, and it certainly sounds credible. I just running into DR

saying they must use tradition proven proceedures because of insurance

restrictions and that they are afraid of losing their licenses by doing

something too radical.

,

Hi, nice to meet you. I had same experience in college when I had

unexplained fever and fatigue. I was continuely asked if I were in a

" love relationship " and if not then that would be the Rx!

Take care,

Christie

At 09:27 AM 8/21/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: SUSYDOG@...

>

>In a message dated 8/20/99 11:47:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tab@...

>writes:

>

>> What is pcr testing? I am STILL trying to get testing for myco, etc!

>Hi Christie.....

>>

>Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a technique which is used to amplify the

>number of copies of a specific region of DNA, in order to produce enough DNA

>to be adequately tested. This technique can be used to identify with a very

>high-probability, disease-causing viruses and/or bacteria, a deceased

person,

>or a criminal suspect.

>In order to use PCR, one must already know the exact sequences

> <A HREF= " http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~jbrown/pcr.html " >What the Heck is

>PCR?</A>

>http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~jbrown/pcr.html

>

>---------------------------

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In a message dated 8/21/99 12:17:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tab@...

writes:

> Who ordered

> this testing for you - PCP, specialist, or alternative DR?

My GP offered after reading (Nicolson's)the material, but I eventually had

CFS/Myco Savy Drs office do the drawing and shipping. There were only several

labs that we wanted to use, IMM /Nicolson, which is not yet covered thru

insurance but set up as you can make it a tax deduction, if you earn enough

to even think deductions,Hopefully soon IMM will get the accredation, If you

are a Veteran then its free testing, geezz the Govt went to learn how to do

the testing at IMM.....so I know its credible testing also

Vodjani,Immunoscience labs, which i think they are excepting some insurance,

but gossip has it that they might want you to retest in person or send

another sample.

> heard of this, and it certainly sounds credible. I just running into DR

> saying they must use tradition proven proceedures because of insurance

> restrictions and that they are afraid of losing their licenses by doing

> something too radical.

That sure is understandable, naive but it is a new frontier to most.

Good Luck Christie

Susy.....

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HREF= " http://www.immed.org/whatsnew/articles/tableofcontents.cfm?Type=articles

" >IMMED</A>

http://www.immed.org

<A HREF= " http://www.immuno-sci-lab.com/index2.html " >IMMUNOSCIENCES LAB.,

INC. - Services

http://www.immuno-sci-lab.com/index2.html</A>

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Dear Christie,

PCR stands for polymerase chain reaction and it is a type of assay that

can be run to detect the presence of bugs when present in minute quantities.

You have to make a couple of things called primers that are complimentary to

the DNA you are looking for, toss in a bunch of amino acids, the test

sample, and some sort of detection label and you put it through a bunch of

cycles of temperature changes etc. (Way oversimplified) and what it does is

make multiple copies of what the primers match up to and whatever sticks out

beyond the primer sequence also gets duplicated. It ends up increasing your

sensitivity of the assay by making lots of copies you can then test for.

This is much more detailed and complicated in real life, but you get the

idea.

Hugs,

Theresa R.