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Aloha!

Thank you, Sue. B for the info. on Oral B-12. do you mean the sublingual

tablets that I take now, or does it come in a liquid form?

Jodi, thank you, too, for describing the way you take B-12. I hate

needles, but have learned to use those ultra-fine ones for my Kutapressin.

it would be good if I could use those for B-12 and inject myself. At least

it's cheap--the Dr. only charged $4.00 for my injection. At this point, $4

bucks seems like nothing, considering that all of my disability .benefits

goes for meds...

Christa, mahalo (thanks) for the nasal spray B-12 info--I'll ask my dr.

about it. So many choices!

Some random thoughts:

One of you (there's the brain fog creeping back) mentioned that you've been

reading Dr. Cheney. What are you reading and where? I've been to him

several times (I know he's not perfect, but I do feel his treatment

protocol and general approach has been good for me). I can't afford to see

him this year, unless I get desperate because i can't find a doctor over

here (Honolulu) who is willing to risk anything.

The local dr. I have is really bright and nice, but extremely conservative.

I asked him about Neurontin and he said that's only if I truly have brain

swelling. Otherwise it would cause side effects. I don't remember anymore

whether I ever had tests that proved I have " swollen brain " or not. I

thought that swelling was the source of the peculiar pressure-like CFIDS

headches. Maybe I just dreamed this up.

Also, I think Cheney tested me for mycoplasma a couple of years ago--I know

Dr. Hyams did his amazing bloodtest--so colorful! :) Dr. H. did show the

results to Cheney and there were weird white spots. I think Cheney said

the test showed that I had lots of evidence of viral anti-bodies. (I'm not

sure about this. I understand it when it's being explained to me, but then

it all disappears again). That's why he gave me the kutapressin, because

he said it worked better on people who show evidence of having or having

had extensive viral infection as a major cause of the illness. Please

don't hold me to any of this. I was so ill and tired when I saw him, I'm

lucky I remember anything. I may be completely mistaken. The tape recording

of the visit didn't turn out well, either. And I've been through several

moves, etc., since then.

I did request from Dr. Cheney,via phone, antibiotics according to dr. Garth

Nicholson's protocol. This was about 2 years ago, at my mother's

insistence (she had listened to Dr. Nicholson often on the radio and is

also very interested in Gulf War syndrome). I took some sort of

antibiotics Cheney prescribed, for about 6 weeks, but experienced no

effects at all--no die-off or anything. Nothing good or bad, so I didn't

go on with it after the initial trial. Maybe I should have..

Yet another question-- does anyone know where Sheryl Autrey, R.N., who was

Dr. Cheney's nurse, is now? She was a great help/resource to me.

I thought I'd read all the recent lists, but obviously missed out on this

controversy over -Macy 's posting. I don't know what's going on.

but after reading the list for awhile now and corresponding with some of

you, I feel like a part of a " family " .(In Hawaii, family , especially

extended family, is referred to as " ohana " and is extremely important). I

hate to see our " ohana " torn with factionalism. We really all need to work

together to find a cure for this thing, and in the meantime, as someone

said, just to feel better. Hope I'm not sermonizing here.

Glad to hear Stania's in the Czech Republic. I'm sure there are PWCs among

all the war's displaced persons though...

Love to all,

Teeza

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Steph,

You are right about what Munchausen by proxy is. Sounds like you need a

different doctor. It sounds like he thinks you are bringing your child's

problems to him to gain attention for yourself.....clearly this doc has never

dealt with autism personally and perhaps professionally. RUN, FOREST, RUN!!!

LD

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Hi List,

Sorry I haven't been able to respond before now - been super busy. Anyway,

the " Cave Man Diet " is extremely low carbs (less than 100 grams per day), no

wheat, gluten, etc. - essentially, it is fresh veggies and meat. I've been

on it with much success (only cheated twice) and am hoping it will help. I

do have lots of other questions, but unfortunately my time right now is

limited. I will write again, ASAP.

MJ

In a message dated 9/15/99 4:46:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

candidiasisonelist writes:

<< Message: 1

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:56:24 EDT

From: J304@...

Subject: Re: Welcome to candidiasisonelist

What is the cave man diet?

Janice >>

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Hi....I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!

Did anyone miss me or did you not notice????? hehehehe......

Had defective monitor and CompUSA would NOT take anything back after 14

days......and they charge 15% opened box fee....so everybody, if your puter

breaks, don't buy anything from them.......

Anyway, lots to catch up on....trying to read all my mail and the list

too...been away for FIVE WHOLE DAYS!!!!

Fast update..... is now on Risperdal in am too......50mg.....the

nighttime dose finally kicked in......so we started in am this past Monday to

see if he can improve at school.......nothing yet...maybe the new dose takes

as long to kick in????

Will read previous lists and try to catch up.......

Take care all,

B. (do I have to add that now since we have a new ?? Can't I just

say " Crazy " or " Stooge " ???)

P.S. Had to send monitor BACK to manufacturer and they shipped me new

one....at least THEY were reliable!!! In case anyone was asking....hehe....

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Hi,

I asked this a few weeks ago and did not get any replies, but is there any

one on the list from New Jersey that plans on going to the Association Method

Seminar at West Chester University on Saturday March 3rd?

Kindly reply to: iaquinto@...

Thanks

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Hi S.J.

How are you girl???? So glad to hear from you but worried about you

too.... I sent you a private email and asked you to send me your phone

number.... Did you get it??????

Angel Hugs,

Diane

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OK geez yall . . . I have CRS really really bad and it seems to only get worse. I've sent another pic (I think) anyway. Hope it wasn't the same one . . . hahaha . . . one just never knows with me. In fact, I hope what I sent WAS me! :::giggle::: Its too early in the AM for me to be awake . . . maybe I should head back to bed for a few???

Always,

SJ

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Sorry, advised me he is no longer doing HBOT treatments.

> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:35:14 -0500

> From: rhartsoe <rhartsoe@...>

> Subject: HBOT in Tampa

>

> There is a facility in Tampa, Dr. Capria will be happy to work

with

> you.

>

> Tampa: Tampa Hyperbaric Enterprise, Capria, 700 West Waters Ave.,

> Tampa, FL 33604, 800-932-5391 Email: drmichael@...

>

> Hartsoe

> Children's Hyperbaric ative at Miracle Mountain

> www.miraclemountain.homestead.com/cooperative.html

>

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>Message: 2

> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:39:17 -0800

> From: " Caitlin Lorraine " <secretariat88@...>

>Subject: Re: Flu and the good stuff

>

>Carol,

> I would be very interested to have your kefir cheesecake recipe! I am always

looking for new delicious ways to take my kefir. :) Kefir banana milkshake with

coconut oil is very good! And I make a kefir eggnog with nutmeg, stevia, and a

raw fresh of the farm chicken egg. Very tasty! I think strawberry shake is still

my favorite though...:) Caitlin Lorraine

>

>

> During the whole day I worked at

> getting all my usual pro biotic stuff into me --- kefir, kefilli, kefir

> cheesecakes, coconut oil, zinc tab, garlic tabs, Vit C tabs, Olive leaf

> tab. By nite the aches and cold feeling were gone and now this morn the

> Diarrhea is gone.

> So as far as I'm concerned, the good stuff really can win out over the

> nasties.

>

> Carol K

>

>

>

>

Here are my kefir recipes

A Couple of Kefir Recipes

When you start getting more kefir than you want to drink, here are a few

recipes to try. There are lots more at Dom’s site too. My measurements

aren’t precise as I often don’t measure.

Kefir Cream Cheese.

I never buy cream cheese any more. Dom’s site has several

recipes/instructions for cheeses.

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefir_cheese.html

Cream cheese is also called Leban

Line a strainer with a fine wove cloth (Wal-Mart has a nice " flour sack "

kitchen cloth). Have the strainer sit over something to collect the

whey, it’s useful too. Pour in at least a Quart of kefir. Fold over the

cloth and let drain a couple of hours. Then take a wooden spoon or heavy

rod and tie the bundle to suspend it so more whey drips out. The whole

process takes 8 - 24 hours depending on how much kefir you start with.

The cream cheese is softer and much lighter, less gummy than store cream

cheese.

Makes about 2 cups/ Qt of kefir used.

Smoothies

In a wide mouth Qt jar ( I use a stick blender) or blender jar,

1 ripe banana

1 egg

2 tbl ground Flax seed

2 Tbl ground unsweetened coconut

3-4 Tbl coconut oil

flavoring - some berries, cocoa powder, jam, whatever

Sweetener if the kefir is too sour for you. But you get used to it and

won’t need it after about 2 weeks.

Kefir to cover but leave room to blend. Blend, pour into a drinking

container. I use a Rubbermaid Qt and top the bottle with Kefir

Makes at least a Qt

Cheese cake

2 Cups kefir cream cheese

2 packs Knox gelatin, dissolved in 1 cup water

½ to 1 cup ground unsweetened coconut

flavoring - some berries, cocoa powder, jam, whatever

Sweetener of choice - this you want a bit sweet

1 cup coconut oil

blend all together, pour into lined muffin tins. Refrigerate. Makes

12-15 individual cheese cakes.

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Re: Suspended; Rants; Questions unanswered; and

conversation

I've been part of this group for a good couple of

months and took the title " Infection and Inflammation "

seriously, ie not a " Lyme " group but one havving a

broader discussion. My own (identified) infectious

source is Chlam Pneumonia, not Lyme, and my

observations and questions have always been received

well even though I'm not a member of the " dominant

infection " group here. Bleu also.

and Penny- I really don't get the exchange

between you for the last week or so. I don't know

whether will get this as he is suspended, but you

both have seemed off the deep end at times in this

discussion, which leaves me feeling that there must be

something else going on, or someone you symbolize to

each other, for this to keep going. - from your

reports things are really crappy for you medically

these days. But that's true of a lot of us.

I'd like us to tone down. There has been some

enourmously helpful info and discussion here, and

challenging the data and the logic doesn't need name

calling. It's not been that way through other rather

challenging discussions. Why now?

Nelly and , et al. Really good questions for Tony,

whether it's " his style " to answer back in a

" scientific " rather than obnoxious way, or not. The

questions are right on the mark. Thanks for putting

them forward.

Let's get on with it.

Jim

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Hi all, My name is Jeff and I am responding to all who suffer with the unrelenting pain that I have come to know. I was recently introduced to a non-narcotic method of pain relief . A lady friend of mine in the medical profession suggested I try LIDODERM patches. The patches are prescribed for people with severe cases of shingles. Since I once suffered from the unbearable pain caused by shingles I was eager to try them out. Since I started using the Patches (which can be left on for up to twelve hours) I have been able to function better during the day, and for the most part get a complete nights sleep. I would suggest that you ask your doctor about a free sample pack and then maybe a prescription for the patches.Spinal Stenosis Treatment wrote:

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Jeff,

Thanks for the info. I am going to ask my doctor

about this next time I am in.

--- Jeff Price <the_chefanator@...> wrote:

> Hi all, My name is Jeff and I am responding to all

> who suffer with the unrelenting pain that I have

> come to know. I was recently introduced to a

> non-narcotic method of pain relief . A lady friend

> of mine in the medical profession suggested I try

> LIDODERM patches.

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