Jab to counter rise in deadly disease

February 18, 2003

oh i sooooo want sir liam to speak at my symposium!!!

now if i remember correctly, hib was NOT a notifiable

disease until it was included in the recommended vax

schedule. so how can they know the disease

decreased????

> However, there has been a very small but gradual

> increase in the number of

> cases of Hib disease reported since 1998.

now why would that be? could it be that the vaccine is

the CAUSE of this???

> Sir Liam said: " Vaccinating children against Hib

> disease has proved very

> successful in cutting rates of this disease.

oh yeah??????? what's your source, sir liam????

> " Over the last ten years this vaccination has

> prevented about 7,300 cases of

> Hib disease and approximately 270 deaths in children

> aged under four.

yes. right. and what is the source for that one?

> " However, our advanced disease surveillance

> programme has identified a small

> but significant increase in cases of Hib recently.

oh how strange. could that be because of the vaccine?

> " In order to halt and reverse this increase, a Hib

> vaccination catch-up

> campaign is being planned. "

to increase the incidence of Hib?

> A spokesperson for the Meningitis Trust urged

> parents to take up the offer

> of the one-off vaccine if their children were of the

> appropriate age.

so.... is the meningitis trust interested in

depopulation then?

> Parents will be invited to bring their children for

> immunisation in the same

> way as other childhood vaccines.

thank you. but no thank you.

> As well as meningitis, it can cause infection in

> joints, pneumonia and

> epiglottitis (causing swelling of part of the

> windpipe causing noisy,

> painful breathing and even blockage of the airway).

i have no doubt that vaccines can cause all of these

and worse. so why vaccinate?

> The disease is most common in children under four

> years of age (with the

> exception of children aged under 3 months where it

> is rare).

how come they don't mention that breastfed babies

never catch this particular disease?

okay, off the soapbox now.

claudia

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February 18, 2003

Is this something to worry about... or is this just more propoganda? My son is

19 months and not vaccinated after first round (because of reaction and

subsequent autism). Are there other ways to protect against it? He will never

have another vaccine. Just wondering if I now have something else to worry

about.

Thanks.

Truly,

a

Jab to counter rise in deadly disease

Children are to be offered a booster dose of vaccine to provide added

protection against potentially fatal Hib disease.

The move, announced by Department of Health on Tuesday, follows an increase

in cases of the disease, which can cause a number of serious illnesses in

children, including a form of meningitis.

February 18, 2003

> oh i sooooo want sir liam to speak at my symposium!!!

<tongue-in-cheek> Now why would that be, ! Is he due to retire soon

then? ;o)

Sue

February 18, 2003

> <tongue-in-cheek> Now why would that be, !

> Is he due to retire soon then? ;o)

actually, i don't have a clue, ya know. but wouldn't

it be wonderful to have him talk and then answer

questions from the audience???? an audience (and other

speakers) who would grill him thoroughly. ahhhhhh i'd

love that.

:-)

claudia

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February 18, 2003

At 04:05 PM 02/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Is this something to worry about... or is this just more propoganda? My

son is 19 months and not vaccinated after first round (because of reaction

and subsequent autism). Are there other ways to protect against it? He will

never have another vaccine. Just wondering if I now have something else to

worry about.

>Thanks.

>Truly,

>a

>

What you have to worry about this those pushing this crap

One vaccine doesn't work, so we'll make you have boosters and on and on .

NEVER saw problems with HIB until vaccine invented - of course occasionally

but it was extremely rare in my pediatric nurse experience.

Don't buy into this stuff.

Sheri

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February 18, 2003

This is in the UK, a, but it is probably just a bit of propaganda to get

UK vaccination rates up. My dd is completely unvaxed, and I'm not worrying.

If we lived in the state of fear the health authorities would like us to,

we'd never get out of bed! Haemophilus influenzae isn't exactly rare - and

I don't believe it is as deadly as they make out. Apparently, I have been

told that I have (or had) the bacterium in a pneumatised turbinate in my

nose. But I try and ignore what doctors tell me as often as possible! )

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" Do not judge your neighbour until you walk two moons in his moccasins " -

Cheyenne proverb

> Re: Jab to counter rise in deadly disease

>

> Is this something to worry about... or is this just more

> propoganda? My son is 19 months and not vaccinated after first

> round (because of reaction and subsequent autism). Are there

> other ways to protect against it? He will never have another

> vaccine. Just wondering if I now have something else to worry about.

> Thanks.

> Truly,

> a

>

> Jab to counter rise in deadly disease

>

> Children are to be offered a booster dose of vaccine to provide added

> protection against potentially fatal Hib disease.

> The move, announced by Department of Health on Tuesday, follows

> an increase

> in cases of the disease, which can cause a number of serious illnesses in

> children, including a form of meningitis.

>

February 18, 2003

You are so right Sheri!! They are idiots! I just read a study on this,

the vaccine itself is causing more virulent strains, and the vaccine

won't touch them. The same thing with the measles in another study. I

believe 12 new strains were found.

> >Is this something to worry about... or is this just more propoganda? My

> son is 19 months and not vaccinated after first round (because of

reaction

> and subsequent autism). Are there other ways to protect against it?

He will

> never have another vaccine. Just wondering if I now have something

else to

> worry about.

> >Thanks.

> >Truly,

> >a

> >

>

> What you have to worry about this those pushing this crap

> One vaccine doesn't work, so we'll make you have boosters and on and

on .

> NEVER saw problems with HIB until vaccine invented - of course

occasionally

> but it was extremely rare in my pediatric nurse experience.

>

> Don't buy into this stuff.

> Sheri

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> vaccineinfo@b... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Homeopathy course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

> DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

February 18, 2003

Here is the article.

Emerging Diseases

http://www.infectiousdiseasenews.com/200111/frameset.asp?article=Influenzae=

..asp

New Haemophilus influenzae pathogen may be emerging

Non-b serotypes of Haemophilus influenzae may be replacing Hib as a

serious pathogen.

November 2001

SALT LAKE CITY ? While Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) has been

nearly eliminated as a major cause of serious disease in children,

other serotypes, especially H. influenzae type a, may have acquired

virulence traits and may be emerging as disease-causing pathogens.

A recent report in Pediatrics described 5 cases of H. influenzae type

a, 2 of which ?were strikingly reminiscent of disease caused by Hib,?

said the report. In 2 other cases, infections were similar to Hib

infections, but different enough to suggest that 2 distinct clones of

H. influenzae type a may be circulating concurrently.

Case reportsIn December 1998, a previously healthy 6-month-old girl

presented to her doctor with lethargy, irritability and poor oral

intake for 1 day, following episodes of altered consciousness and

peripheral cyanosis. Upon admission to the hospital, her blood

pressure was 40/20 mm Hg, pulse was 210 beats/min and her tympanic

temperature was 39.4° C; there was purpura present on the nose, ear

and legs, and petechiae on her face and trunk. Medical history

revealed that she had received 3 doses of Hib conjugate vaccine.

The infant required intubation and mechanical ventilation with fluid

support and was given intravenous cefotaxime (Claforan, Aventis),

vancomycin and gentamicin. Laboratory testing revealed a white blood

count (WBC) of 4,900/mm3, hematocrit 27.5% and a platelet count of

35,000/mm3. Cultures of the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) and blood grew

H. influenzae type a.

Treatment was further complicated by renal failure, purpura fulminans

and subdural empyema; soft-tissue necrosis ultimately required the

amputation of 2 toes, said the report.

The second patient, a 1-year-old girl, was admitted to the hospital in

June 1999 with a 3-day history of vomiting, fever, irritability,

diarrhea and seizures. The infant also had received 3 doses of Hib

conjugate vaccine.

An initial exam of the 1-year-old showed that she was toxic appearing

and minimally responsive. CSF was cloudy; the WBC was 1,660/mm3, red

blood count 70/mm3, glucose 34 mg/dl and protein levels were 300

mg/ml. Cultures of the CSF and blood grew H. influenzae serotype a.

The second patient?s hospitalization was complicated by aseptic

necrosis of the right femoral head and prolonged fever. Following 4

weeks of treatment with cefotaxime, she was discharged with evidence

of reduced hearing and regression of fine and gross motor skills.

Epidemiology and infectivityThere had been no reported cases of

invasive disease caused by H. influenzae type a in Utah between 1991

and 1998. However, between November 1998 and October 1999, there were

4 reported cases in children ranging from 6-13 months of age. All

cases displayed bacteremia and meningitis, and 3 had prolonged fever,

subdural empyema and aseptic necrosis of the hip ? common markers for

Hib. A review of laboratory records for the same period revealed a

fifth patient who grew H. influenzae type a on pure culture.

Previously reported cases of H. influenzae type a occurred exclusively

in patients older than 5 years.

Serotype a strains isolated from 3 of the patients demonstrated the

IS1016-bexA deletion that has been described in invasive type a and

type b strains. DNA sequencing, assisted by primers specific to IS1016

and bexA, amplified a 362 base-pair sequence that confirmed the finding.

Three H. influenzae type a strains with the IS1016-bexA deletion may

have recombined with a circulating Hib strain because Haemophilus

strains are transformable. Most virulent Hib strains contain a 1,198

base-pair sequence that removes a portion of IS1016 and bexA,

promoting gene amplification, resulting in an increase in the

production of capsules and increasing the virulence of Hib. The areas

where IS1016 and bexA are usually found are surrounded by transposable

elements, further suggesting the possibility of a recombinant H.

influenzae type a strain.

The 2 other patients lacked the IS1016-bexA deletion, but nevertheless

suffered invasive disease due to H. influenzae type a, the report stated.

For more information:

Adderson E, Byington C, Spencer L, et al. Invasive serotype a

Haemophilus influenzae infections with a virulence genotype resembling

Haemophilus influenzae type b: emerging pathogen in the vaccine era?

Pediatrics. 2001;108(1):e18.

February 18, 2003

Sorry, a previous post didn't go through. Because of these vaccines,

more virulent strains are appearing. Same for the Measles.

> Here is the article.

>

> Emerging Diseases

>

http://www.infectiousdiseasenews.com/200111/frameset.asp?article=Influenzae=

> .asp

>

> New Haemophilus influenzae pathogen may be emerging

>

> Non-b serotypes of Haemophilus influenzae may be replacing Hib as a

> serious pathogen.

>

February 18, 2003

Interesting, , thank you. I wonder if this is what's triggered the

item I posted indirectly. They say the PHLS is reporting a slight increase

in cases - maybe this is why. I don't suppose this mutant strain is

anything to do with the vaccine, is it? ;o)

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" Do not judge your neighbour until you walk two moons in his moccasins " -

Cheyenne proverb

>

> Here is the article.

>

> Emerging Diseases

>

> http://www.infectiousdiseasenews.com/200111/frameset.asp?article=I

> nfluenzae= .asp

>

> New Haemophilus influenzae pathogen may be emerging

>

> Non-b serotypes of Haemophilus influenzae may be replacing Hib as a

> serious pathogen.

>

> November 2001

>

> SALT LAKE CITY ? While Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) has been

> nearly eliminated as a major cause of serious disease in children,

> other serotypes, especially H. influenzae type a, may have acquired

> virulence traits and may be emerging as disease-causing pathogens.

>

> A recent report in Pediatrics described 5 cases of H. influenzae type

> a, 2 of which ?were strikingly reminiscent of disease caused by Hib,?

> said the report. In 2 other cases, infections were similar to Hib

> infections, but different enough to suggest that 2 distinct clones of

> H. influenzae type a may be circulating concurrently.

> >

February 18, 2003

Sue, you are very quick!! Hope the post comes through. I read another

article it's four parts. They test the strain of virus of an infected

person. From my take on it, it rarely is the strain in the vaccine,

because they also test for the vaccine strain.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/441358

> Interesting, , thank you. I wonder if this is what's triggered the

> item I posted indirectly. They say the PHLS is reporting a slight

increase

> in cases - maybe this is why. I don't suppose this mutant strain is

> anything to do with the vaccine, is it? ;o)

>

> Love, light and peace,

>

> Sue

>

> " Do not judge your neighbour until you walk two moons in his

moccasins " -

> Cheyenne proverb

February 21, 2003

Jackie, sorry this is late. Been busy with Childscreen.

I've read about Horizontal Gene Transfer before. They are just in the

last three years coming to the conclusion that viruses and bacteria

can jump into human DNA. Of course, you would not see in any peer

reviewed medical paper that immunization is one of the vectors.

Below is a URL that explains the process.

Transgressing species barriers

http://www.psrast.org/whtr & hor.htm

> But isn't it amazing they never seem to find new strains when the

> disease is allowed to evolve normally!!!

>

> Or am I out in left field on this - or does the new strains come

> about more slowly????

>

> Jackie Noel

> www.sagaciousairedales.com

> www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

February 22, 2003

,

Thanks for the site.

My thinking is right.

Jackie Noel

www.sagaciousairedales.com

www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

January 1, 2004

Another old post.

Here is the article.

Emerging Diseases

http://www.infectiousdiseasenews.com/200111/frameset.asp?

article=Influenzae=