Re: I SELL GOOD VITAMINS! What do you think of these?~

[Guest guest]

If anyone is interested.....I sell vitamins that are manufactured by Roche

Pharmaceuticals and also have a weightloss wellness program.

(vitamins are Women's complete 1, Women's complete II, Menstrual comfort I

and II, Menopause support, Hair care from within, Bone health, Heart Health,

Joint Formula, Energy Advance, Memory & Focus, Mood & Balance, NATAL Health,

Stomach comfort, Men's complete, Prostate Formula, Multi Kids Complete)

I'm wondering what you think of these ingredients. For instance:

1).COLD SEASON FORMULA

Ingredients: Vitamin C 250 mg, Zinc 12.5 mg, Echinacea 150mg

small amounts of: microcystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide, croscarmellose

sodium, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, steric acid, titanium dioxide,

magnesium stearate, polyethylene glycol, sodium citrate dihydrate,sodium

copper chlorophyllin, & polysorbate 80.

2). IMMUNE ADVANCE:

Ingredients: Vit A-3333IU, Vit C 200 mg, Vit E 200 IU, Vit B6 6mg, zinc

3mg, astragalus (astragalus membranaceus) extract(root, standardized to o.4%

7-glyco-4'-hydroxy-3' methoxyisoflavone), Green Tea (camellia sinensis)

extract (leaf, standardized to 50%polyphenols), small amount of

microcrystalline cellulose, croscarmellose sodium, silicon dioxide,

hydraxyproplyl methylcellulose, steric acid, titanium dioxide, magnesium

stearate, polyethylene glycol, carmen, riboflavin.

You can email me off this list at Homeschool5kids@.... I can email you

lists of ingredients if you are interested.

Thank you for any interest, comments, and questions!

Porsche!

[Guest guest]

I think in my last post it wasn't' very self explanatory.....I'm tired and

thinking out of only a small part of my brain! LOL. Anyway, what I was

wondering was what this group thinks about the company who makes these

vitamins and what your thoughts are on them. I want to feel confident about a

product that I sell. I thought there may be some here (like Sherri) that may

know more about them. It seems that everyone is down on any type of

drugs...or vitamins...but I'm not really sure how everyone feels here since

I'm still new to the group. Can you share with me?

Thanks!

Porsche

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I do have a site but it doesn't have the ingredients listed. I'd have to send

them to you. The part where I put " small amounts " or " small traces " is what

the capsules are made of. The vitamins are from Avon's Wellness line and

they're supposed to be top notch. that's why I brought it here to see what

everyone thinks. I've looked at other vitamins to check them out and they

pretty much have the same things in them. I went to the health food store and

looked at they're vitamins and they were about identical although some of

them didn't even list what the capsules or shells were made of. I asked the

lady at the health food store about that and she agreed that not all health

food store brand vitamins listed this (what the shells or capsules are made

of).... making them " appear healthier or better " but they are not

necessarily. It also looked like the ones I sell have more good vitamins in

them. All vitamins are held together in some form, this being the shell or

capsule and have some sort of ingredients in them. I have been taking mine

and I have to say I actually notice a difference in that I feel a lot better!

But I really wanted some expert advice. Thank you for your help.

Porsche

www.youravon.com/porschesnyder (enter passcode #1)

Homeschool5kids@...

[Guest guest]

It would be hard to answer that question without knowing exactly what is in

them and whether the vitamins are natural or synthetic. Or having some

information about how they were manufactured and quality control.

I manage a health food store and the very few brands in there that do not

list what the capsules are made of or what binders were used do not list them

because there isn't anything to list. These are brands that just stamp the

tablets together.

As long as they are making you feel better then go for it. :-) And if you

can find an Avon website with more info, I'd be happy to look it over for you.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sadly my www.youravon.com/porschesnyder passcode #1 website offers no

information on ingredients. BUT I have all the information here. Because I

sell so many vitamins....it would be hard to write them all down.....would

take a while. I do feel confident about them because everyone in my customer

base that I've sold them to LOVE them and swear by them. I have never had a

complaint or concern. Only a lot of repeat customers. Which isn't a bad

thing! LOL. I love the wellness line and feel good about selling them and

have a lot of information here to share with my customers. So that helps

also. As I've spoken with many specialist about vitamins....I've been told

that you cannot just " press " or stamp them together...there has to be an

agent that holds them together otherwise they'd just crumble. So I'm not to

sure about the ones in the health food store. The women I spoke with has had

her store for over 30 years and says that some companies just chose to leave

it out because it is not regulated by anyone. AND that most people who work

in a health food store don't even know that. But I'm curious as to what you

find out if you investigate it. Thanks a bunch for the information I really

appreciate it!

Porsche

[Guest guest]

Just from a quick glance of the ingredients you posted, I think they have

too much preservatives and additives. Is there a website where I can look

at the ingredient list further? What is the brand?

www.ChestnutHillCurlies.com

Re: I SELL GOOD VITAMINS! What do you think of

these?~

> I think in my last post it wasn't' very self explanatory.....I'm tired and

> thinking out of only a small part of my brain! LOL. Anyway, what I was

> wondering was what this group thinks about the company who makes these

> vitamins and what your thoughts are on them. I want to feel confident

about a

> product that I sell. I thought there may be some here (like Sherri) that

may

> know more about them. It seems that everyone is down on any type of

> drugs...or vitamins...but I'm not really sure how everyone feels here

since

> I'm still new to the group. Can you share with me?

> Thanks!

> Porsche

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello HomeSchool5Kids@...,

In reference to your comment:

è But I'm curious as to what you find out if you

è investigate it.

I've been through the product training with the companies so I'm perfectly

familiar with what is in the products and how they are produced. As a matter

of fact, my store's own brand will start to crumble within a few weeks of

opening unless a nitropak is put with it. The only thing extra in ours is

gellatin, cellulose and magnesium stearate. I'm just wondering what brands

she carries? The brands in my store list all ingredients down to what the

capsule is made of.

But it should be easy enough to look up the ingredients and see if they

contain a therapeutic dose and whether or not there is a problem with the

" extra ingredients " in Avon's product.

Here's information on titanium oxide from a quick google search.

http://www.savannahnow.com/stories/122996/whatis.html

Now why on earth this needs to be in a nutritional supplement is beyond me.

Here's info on the polyehyline glycol:

http://www.surfactant.co.kr/surfactants/peg.html

The hydroxypropyl methylcellulose isn't looking so good

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/203682.html

I just did a quick google search for the ingredients that I wasn't familiar

with. AOL keeps trying to kick me off so I guess that is all I can look up

for now.

[Guest guest]

WOW ~! Thanks a bunch that was VERY informative! I appreciate your

taking the time to check this out for me! It has been helpful.

Take care,

Porsche

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

WOW your very informative. I honestly don't know about what forms these

ingredients come in. I am new to this which was why I was asking about it.

The ingredients I listed was all the information that I had on them. One of

my questions would be: if they are : " these supplements from Avon are rather

stuffed with fillers " why do I feel better and why do my customers feel good

taking them also? I'm curious about that one. I'm going to look into this

though because it really puzzles me.

Avon started with the supplements about 2 years ago and decided that they

wanted to go with a top manufacturing company called Roche Pharmaceuticals.

They're supposed to be really good.The line is called " VitAdvance " . It looks

like only a few of the vitamins have the Titanium dioxide. I'm not sure why

or what the purpose is. I want to question my DSM and ask her about this and

why it is in some supplements? This is in 8 out of 18 supliments.I wonder

what the purpose is. Thank you so much for this information. Thanks a bunch!

Porsche

[Guest guest]

Hi Porsche,

I am in the UK, and our vitamin retail practices are very different here, I

am sure. In actual fact we are busy fighting a European Union directive

which would make vitamin supplements, as well as aromatherapy oils,

homoeopathic preparations, herbs and any *natural* health products that made

therapeutic claims, almost impossible to buy. I'm an aromatherapist and if

this directive stands, it will make the cost of my essential oils so high

that it will put me out of business. Anyway, this directive is supposedly

all about labelling and providing full content information so that customers

know exactly what they are buying. I trade with a couple of supplement

companies here and while I'm not 100% sure, I'd be pretty inclined to think

these supplements from Avon are rather stuffed with fillers. It's

interesting that your details below don't show what form the vitamins are

available in. For example, what form is the Vitamin C in? Ascorbic acid?

Magnesium Ascorbate? There are others too, and some are better tolerated

than others. Is the Vitamin E synthetic or natural? Is the B6 as

pyridoxine hydrochloride or pyridoxyl-5-phosphate? The former is inorganic,

the latter organic and much more bioavailable - you need less of it to get

more effect. In the UK, that's important as we're restricted to a limit of

49mg. of Vit B6 in one tablet/capsule...!

Not trying to split hairs, but I've always found that you get what you pay

for. Certainly in the UK, I don't think Avon have a great track record as

health supplement producers - they aren't a *name* in supplements, but then

again, here a lot of the cosmetic companies are jumping on the supplement

bandwagon. So that doesn't mean they *aren't* any good. This is one of the

companies I trade with: http://www.questvitamins.co.uk - check out their

site and you can see how they list their ingredients.

Just turned this up on titanium dioxide (which I know is suspected of being

carcinogenic):

http://www2.cse.dl.ac.uk/Groups/CMG/Misia/tio2/TiO2.html

Extract:

Uses of Titanium Dioxide?

Due to its high refractive index, durability, dispersion, tinting, strength,

chemically inert nature and non-toxicity, it is widely used for coatings,

enamels, specification paints, lacquers, inks, tanners leather finishes,

shoe whiteners and ceramics. It is used in electroceramics and glass (due

to its high stability and property to absorb ultraviolet light).

* It is an excellent reflector, so it is used in solar observatories where

heat makes observing impossible.

* It is used as a sunblock in suncreams, because it reflects, absorbs and

scatters light, it does not irritate skin, and it is water resistant.

These are some other everyday uses of Titanium Dioxide:-

* Glossy coatings for magazine pages

* Replacement for lead in white paint

* The white colour of plastic forks

When Titanium Dioxide is bombarded with Ultraviolet rays, it becomes a

sterile surface and, for a long period of time afterwards, will kill any

germs that come in contact with it. This is useful in products such as

latex gloves.

I don't think I'd want that going in my stomach...! Wonder *why* Avon put

it in their supplements...?

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" There is just enough room in the world for all the people in it, but there

is no room for the fences which separate them. "

> Re: I SELL GOOD VITAMINS! What do you think of

> these?~

>

>

> If anyone is interested.....I sell vitamins that are

> manufactured by Roche

> Pharmaceuticals and also have a weightloss wellness program.

> (vitamins are Women's complete 1, Women's complete II, Menstrual

> comfort I

> and II, Menopause support, Hair care from within, Bone health,

> Heart Health,

> Joint Formula, Energy Advance, Memory & Focus, Mood & Balance,

> NATAL Health,

> Stomach comfort, Men's complete, Prostate Formula, Multi Kids Complete)

> I'm wondering what you think of these ingredients. For instance:

> 1).COLD SEASON FORMULA

> Ingredients: Vitamin C 250 mg, Zinc 12.5 mg, Echinacea 150mg

> small amounts of: microcystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide,

> croscarmellose

> sodium, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, steric acid, titanium dioxide,

> magnesium stearate, polyethylene glycol, sodium citrate dihydrate,sodium

> copper chlorophyllin, & polysorbate 80.

> 2). IMMUNE ADVANCE:

> Ingredients: Vit A-3333IU, Vit C 200 mg, Vit E 200 IU, Vit B6 6mg, zinc

> 3mg, astragalus (astragalus membranaceus) extract(root,

> standardized to o.4%

> 7-glyco-4'-hydroxy-3' methoxyisoflavone), Green Tea (camellia sinensis)

> extract (leaf, standardized to 50%polyphenols), small amount of

> microcrystalline cellulose, croscarmellose sodium, silicon dioxide,

> hydraxyproplyl methylcellulose, steric acid, titanium dioxide, magnesium

> stearate, polyethylene glycol, carmen, riboflavin.

> You can email me off this list at Homeschool5kids@.... I can

> email you

> lists of ingredients if you are interested.

> Thank you for any interest, comments, and questions!

> Porsche!

>

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