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Hi everyone, lots of informative articles and nice to meet all of you.

Judy, that is awful what you have gone through....I think your mom

probably just did what she thought was best for you as far as the

rubella goes...back then they didn't really ask for your consent, and

people trusted , as they do now, doctors 100% to do no harm. As I had

said before, we were talked into the first set of vaccines for Kai....it

is a difficult decision and you don't want to do the wrong thing. I

have had many educated and well-informed folks give me the go ahead. One

of my friends even has conducted clinical studies on the acellular

pertussis and said it was safe and they saw no reactions in her study.

Even with all of this, I have a hard time feeling comfortable

vaccinating. It seems vaccines flow like water in this country. I am to

start to work in a hospital next week and was told that I needed to have

the MMR before starting if i couldn't produce my childhood immunization

records.(which of course I don't have). Anyway, I insisted on the titer

and I already have antibodies against rubella, which is what they were

concerned about. Instead of them suggesting this though, I had to. Had

I not been reading about the vaccines these last few months I too would

have said OK, thinking they would never give me anything that could hurt

me. As long as I can remember I have considered vaccination to be a

" nothing " treatment. I was never concerned or even questioned what was

being injected into me....good thing I know now.

Sue

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Sue,

I'm so glad to here that you did the titer and that your are immune. So they

are not making you have the MMR shot now right???

Re: Digest Number 2

From: Sue and Rich Breeden <breeden@...>

Hi everyone, lots of informative articles and nice to meet all of you.

Judy, that is awful what you have gone through....I think your mom

probably just did what she thought was best for you as far as the

rubella goes...back then they didn't really ask for your consent, and

people trusted , as they do now, doctors 100% to do no harm. As I had

said before, we were talked into the first set of vaccines for Kai....it

is a difficult decision and you don't want to do the wrong thing. I

have had many educated and well-informed folks give me the go ahead. One

of my friends even has conducted clinical studies on the acellular

pertussis and said it was safe and they saw no reactions in her study.

Even with all of this, I have a hard time feeling comfortable

vaccinating. It seems vaccines flow like water in this country. I am to

start to work in a hospital next week and was told that I needed to have

the MMR before starting if i couldn't produce my childhood immunization

records.(which of course I don't have). Anyway, I insisted on the titer

and I already have antibodies against rubella, which is what they were

concerned about. Instead of them suggesting this though, I had to. Had

I not been reading about the vaccines these last few months I too would

have said OK, thinking they would never give me anything that could hurt

me. As long as I can remember I have considered vaccination to be a

" nothing " treatment. I was never concerned or even questioned what was

being injected into me....good thing I know now.

Sue

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I absolutely agree, Sue. Both our girls are partially vaccinated; I

stopped when I started coming across info I'd never seen before. I was

aghast that our doctor (who I quite liked) did not even mention there were

potential risks. And I have to admit that I feel a certain bitterness (not

to mention guilt that I wasn't better informed) whenever I think about the

possible long-term effects I have exposed them to.

Kate

At 04:01 PM 9/5/98 -0700, you wrote:

>From: Sue and Rich Breeden <breeden@...>

>

>Hi everyone, lots of informative articles and nice to meet all of you.

>Judy, that is awful what you have gone through....I think your mom

>probably just did what she thought was best for you as far as the

>rubella goes...back then they didn't really ask for your consent, and

>people trusted , as they do now, doctors 100% to do no harm. As I had

>said before, we were talked into the first set of vaccines for Kai....it

>is a difficult decision and you don't want to do the wrong thing. I

>have had many educated and well-informed folks give me the go ahead. One

>of my friends even has conducted clinical studies on the acellular

>pertussis and said it was safe and they saw no reactions in her study.

>Even with all of this, I have a hard time feeling comfortable

>vaccinating. It seems vaccines flow like water in this country. I am to

>start to work in a hospital next week and was told that I needed to have

>the MMR before starting if i couldn't produce my childhood immunization

>records.(which of course I don't have). Anyway, I insisted on the titer

>and I already have antibodies against rubella, which is what they were

>concerned about. Instead of them suggesting this though, I had to. Had

>I not been reading about the vaccines these last few months I too would

>have said OK, thinking they would never give me anything that could hurt

>me. As long as I can remember I have considered vaccination to be a

> " nothing " treatment. I was never concerned or even questioned what was

>being injected into me....good thing I know now.

>Sue

>

>

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  • 1 year later...

In a message dated 12/3/1999 7:13:03 AM Central Standard Time,

onelist, Lynette writes:

<< I have seen that the ABLLS starts intraverbals with fill-ins like words

from songs and simple phrases like " Let's go wash our (hands) "

Rhonda, have you done categories using fill-ins like " A dog is an (animal) "

" A cheeseburger is (food) " >>

If I understand Dr. Carbone correctly, it is important to do fill-ins, as in

songs and simple phrases, before introducing fill-ins in RFFC and Category

programs. Once the child is strong with these types of fill-ins, he will be

ready to do them with more complex intraverbals. In order to do a fill-in

for a Category, the child must first know what objects/items fall within a

category. In other words, the teaching style for Categories would be to

teach them as several items within one category, usually introducing at least

3 at a time initially. Therefore, you want to have some categories mastered

before doing the fill-in. Once a Category is mastered you then move it into

the fill-in drill (H14 on the ABLLS). You also do fill-ins within the RFFC

drill. Once an RFFC is mastered asking a What question, doing a fill-in and

doing a reversal, you then move it into Intraverval Fill-ins (H9 on the

ABLLS).

It is good to understand that you do not necessarily go in order on the

ABLLS. For instance on the Intraverbals, you may jump ahead because a child

is stronger in RFFCs than he is in Categories.

Hope this helps.

Mickey

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Altamesa1@... wrote:

>

> It is good to understand that you do not necessarily go in order on the

> ABLLS. For instance on the Intraverbals, you may jump ahead because a child

> is stronger in RFFCs than he is in Categories.

>

Thank you ! This does help and I was curious about that. However in some

ways it's a good thing and in another it's bad. Since you don't

neccessarily go in order it takes more of a thought process to plan

curriculum.

Is anyone using a S/P consultant like Dr. Carbone or Dr. Partington and

do they do the curriculum planning down to which items on the ABLLS to

target? Lynette

>

> Mickey

>

> >

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  • 1 month later...

Testing.......one..two...three! well, folks, I did something pretty stupid!

I was NOT SCROLLING down to read all the posts.........DUH!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if I like this setup better or not yet, but Joan, you are a

saint and I appreciate your efforts in trying to improve our

" home " ..............hope this takes because I was panicking when I got the

" unsubscribe " message!

Did the person who's kid is on MELATONIN read my comments yet? I needed to

know what dosage according to weight to give to ..........although he's

fast asleep now from the nightly dose of Clonidine and Benadryl (hehehe -

yippee!).

Signing off for now and keeping my fingers crossed that this took!

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Testing.......one..two...three! well, folks, I did something pretty stupid!

I was NOT SCROLLING down to read all the posts.........DUH!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if I like this setup better or not yet, but Joan, you are a

saint and I appreciate your efforts in trying to improve our

" home " ..............hope this takes because I was panicking when I got the

" unsubscribe " message!

Did the person who's kid is on MELATONIN read my comments yet? I needed to

know what dosage according to weight to give to ..........although he's

fast asleep now from the nightly dose of Clonidine and Benadryl (hehehe -

yippee!).

Signing off for now and keeping my fingers crossed that this took!

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Testing.......one..two...three! well, folks, I did something pretty stupid!

I was NOT SCROLLING down to read all the posts.........DUH!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if I like this setup better or not yet, but Joan, you are a

saint and I appreciate your efforts in trying to improve our

" home " ..............hope this takes because I was panicking when I got the

" unsubscribe " message!

Did the person who's kid is on MELATONIN read my comments yet? I needed to

know what dosage according to weight to give to ..........although he's

fast asleep now from the nightly dose of Clonidine and Benadryl (hehehe -

yippee!).

Signing off for now and keeping my fingers crossed that this took!

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, HI. Regarding Melatonin, there was mention of this in " Treating of

Comorbid Disorders in Autism " on Medscape. It is the January 2000 article

Joan talked about last week. Anyway, it says under " Other or Nonspecific

Behavioral Symptoms " that an open-label trial of oral melatonin 2.5 mg to 10

mg (fast release preparation) given at bedtime produced positive results in

82% of 100 patients, and appeared safe. Check out this article. It said

that onset of effect appeared to be with the first dose in some, however, in

others, several months of treatment together with initiation of rigorous

sleep routines and a modified bedroom envionment were needed. 82% seems

great to me. I haven't used it but I would think you could start with the

lowest dose and I think you don't need a Drs prescription for this stuff.

Lauri in Michigan

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, HI. Regarding Melatonin, there was mention of this in " Treating of

Comorbid Disorders in Autism " on Medscape. It is the January 2000 article

Joan talked about last week. Anyway, it says under " Other or Nonspecific

Behavioral Symptoms " that an open-label trial of oral melatonin 2.5 mg to 10

mg (fast release preparation) given at bedtime produced positive results in

82% of 100 patients, and appeared safe. Check out this article. It said

that onset of effect appeared to be with the first dose in some, however, in

others, several months of treatment together with initiation of rigorous

sleep routines and a modified bedroom envionment were needed. 82% seems

great to me. I haven't used it but I would think you could start with the

lowest dose and I think you don't need a Drs prescription for this stuff.

Lauri in Michigan

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, HI. Regarding Melatonin, there was mention of this in " Treating of

Comorbid Disorders in Autism " on Medscape. It is the January 2000 article

Joan talked about last week. Anyway, it says under " Other or Nonspecific

Behavioral Symptoms " that an open-label trial of oral melatonin 2.5 mg to 10

mg (fast release preparation) given at bedtime produced positive results in

82% of 100 patients, and appeared safe. Check out this article. It said

that onset of effect appeared to be with the first dose in some, however, in

others, several months of treatment together with initiation of rigorous

sleep routines and a modified bedroom envionment were needed. 82% seems

great to me. I haven't used it but I would think you could start with the

lowest dose and I think you don't need a Drs prescription for this stuff.

Lauri in Michigan

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Leah:

Right ON, sis! I say to hell with those who " can't handle " our

kids.......and some of these people are PROFESSIONALS who are supposed to be

well versed in dealing with our kids' behaviours!!

I hear it all the time from people, " I don't know how you do it! " , " I

couldn't do what you do all day! " and blah, blah, blah, yada, yada,

yada......that's why I regress and watch the 3 Stooges with to keep my

sanity (did I say KEEP??)

is funny with food and stuff too.....would you believe he LOVES

spaghetti but only if it's cooked from " scratch " ? If I take out a microwave

one or a can of Chef Boy Ardee, he goes NUTS!! He will throw the can in the

trash and climb up to where we keep the boxes of pasta and sauce and get a

pot out and make me cook it!!

How's that for persistence??

These kids, Gotta Love Em!

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Leah:

I will IM you when you're on my buddy list to talk about " The Big

Move " ......so you took off this semester, huh? If they're morons at the

present school, you just answered your own question about whether or not you

should switch schools.....

Anyway, I'll talk to you " one on one " real soon..........everyone else, hang

in there! Gee, did I say that? I'm the one who usually needs the support!!

(a/k/a " Moe " , " Larry " , or " Curly " )

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>

> is funny with food and stuff too.....would you believe he LOVES

> spaghetti but only if it's cooked from " scratch " ? If I take out a

> microwave

> one or a can of Chef Boy Ardee, he goes NUTS!! He will throw the

> can in the

> trash and climb up to where we keep the boxes of pasta and sauce and

> get a

> pot out and make me cook it!!

>

> How's that for persistence??

>

,

Will eat it if it is hot? Matt wants only cooked (Like ) but it

has to be out of the refridigerator COLD. Fun when you are making

Spaghetti for the family. !

S

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