Re: I agree with vaccinations.........WHAT??!

[Guest guest]

" Autism is a difficult disorder to miss, as it is characterized by

noticeably abnormal or impaired development in social interaction and

communication and a markedly restricted array of activities and

interests. And while scientific consensus claims autism has been around

for millennia at generally the same prevalence, that prevalence is now

considered to be one in every 166 children born in the United States. "

I do pretty well with reading comprehension. I get, from the above,

that 1 in 166 children born in the United States is now autistic?

VERY interesting about the Amish study, but 1 out of 166? That is VERY

difficult to believe!

[Guest guest]

Autism spectrum, I believe, is what the term is meant

to include, that is mild to severe

--- breathedeepnow <aug20@...> wrote:

> " Autism is a difficult disorder to miss, as it is

> characterized by

> noticeably abnormal or impaired development in

> social interaction and

> communication and a markedly restricted array of

> activities and

> interests. And while scientific consensus claims

> autism has been around

> for millennia at generally the same prevalence, that

> prevalence is now

> considered to be one in every 166 children born in

> the United States. "

>

> I do pretty well with reading comprehension. I get,

> from the above,

> that 1 in 166 children born in the United States is

> now autistic?

>

> VERY interesting about the Amish study, but 1 out of

> 166? That is VERY

> difficult to believe!

>

>

>

" Consensus is the absence of leadership " ~ Madeleine Korbel Albright

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[Guest guest]

Have you volunteered at a public school lately?

I have and noticed how many kids are affected with

some degree of the autism spectrum!

Many of these kids are mainstreamed now (in Michigan),

and have to have a one-on-one para-pro person, all

paid by our tax dollars!

How many kids are too disfunctional to even be

mainstreamed?

I wonder, but I only can account for what I DO see

Kathie

--- breathedeepnow <aug20@...> wrote:

> " Autism is a difficult disorder to miss, as it is

> characterized by

> noticeably abnormal or impaired development in

> social interaction and

> communication and a markedly restricted array of

> activities and

> interests. And while scientific consensus claims

> autism has been around

> for millennia at generally the same prevalence, that

> prevalence is now

> considered to be one in every 166 children born in

> the United States. "

>

> I do pretty well with reading comprehension. I get,

> from the above,

> that 1 in 166 children born in the United States is

> now autistic?

>

> VERY interesting about the Amish study, but 1 out of

> 166? That is VERY

> difficult to believe!

>

>

>

" Consensus is the absence of leadership " ~ Madeleine Korbel Albright

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[Guest guest]

No I have not volunteered at a public school lately. But I very much

doubt one can point to vaccines as the only cause of what is happening

at public schools.

Someone asked recently whether, if television had been around when

Abraham Lincoln was a child, whether Abraham Lincoln would ever have

BECOME the Abraham Lincon we remember today. Abe didn't have " Beavis

and Butthead " to influence him. Whoever allowed THAT garbage to get on

the tube should have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a

rail.

There are all manner of things influencing children today, and vaccines

may or may not be just one of them.

[Guest guest]

No, you are right.

Autism spectrum is a combination of what we do from

birth, pouring into a new, fresh immune system (such

as a new born baby)

Pitocin, for one in labor is shown to affect the

neurological system. Please peruse the following

website

http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/ATTN_Researchers.htm

Kathie

--- breathedeepnow <aug20@...> wrote:

> No I have not volunteered at a public school lately.

> But I very much

> doubt one can point to vaccines as the only cause of

> what is happening

> at public schools.

>

> Someone asked recently whether, if television had

> been around when

> Abraham Lincoln was a child, whether Abraham Lincoln

> would ever have

> BECOME the Abraham Lincon we remember today. Abe

> didn't have " Beavis

> and Butthead " to influence him. Whoever allowed THAT

> garbage to get on

> the tube should have been tarred, feathered and run

> out of town on a

> rail.

>

> There are all manner of things influencing children

> today, and vaccines

> may or may not be just one of them.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Please please please don't even tell me you are saying that TV is a

cause for autism???????? Again - WHAT!?

I agree that vaccines are not the only cause, but one HUGE cause. Abe

certainly didn't have LETHAL amounts of mercury being shot into his

system as a baby that's for sure!

Okay I'm done.

Molly

>

> No I have not volunteered at a public school lately. But I very much

> doubt one can point to vaccines as the only cause of what is

happening

> at public schools.

>

> Someone asked recently whether, if television had been around when

> Abraham Lincoln was a child, whether Abraham Lincoln would ever have

> BECOME the Abraham Lincon we remember today. Abe didn't have " Beavis

> and Butthead " to influence him. Whoever allowed THAT garbage to get

on

> the tube should have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a

> rail.

>

> There are all manner of things influencing children today, and

vaccines

> may or may not be just one of them.

>

[Guest guest]

No, I am not saying TV is a cause of autism. I AM saying TV certainly

can be the cause of idiocy, behavioral problems, criminal behavior

and plenty of other awfulness.

It is thoroughly laughable that those who govern this country are

scratching their heads, asking, " Why is there violence in our

schools? " when it is so obvious that a tremendous part of the reason

why there is violence in our schools is because this is the third or

fourth generation that has been brought up from infancy on television.

I ask you:

If it is illegal, that is, if I stand an excellent chance of being

put in jail for assault and battery for punching someone in the mouth-

--WHY IS IT LEGAL FOR TV SHOWS AND MOVIES TO SHOW, OVER AND OVER

AGAIN, AD INFINITUM, ONE MAN PUNCHING ANOTHER IN THE FACE AND

RECEIVING NO PUNISHMENT AT ALL? NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE ONE WHO GETS

PUNCHED IN THE FACE DOESN'T EVEN BLEED!

No, TV doesn't cause autism, but it surely causes TREMENDOUS HAVOC.

Look at all the TV shows and movies about murder. Then ask

yourself, " Do I personally know anyone who's been murdered? Do I have

any friends who know anyone who's been murdered? " Chances are

excellent that the answers to both are " No. "

So WHY do TV and movies concentrate so much on murder? It's

completely CRAZY! Why do people put up with such garbage? Why don't

they demand TV and movies that creatively deal with REAL STUFF/REAL

LIFE?

Someone needs to do some REAL HOUSE-CLEANING among those who make

Movies and TV shows.

Before anyone tells me that " reality doesn't sell, " I suggest that

person watch a few episodes of " Touched By An Angel. " Sure, the

angels were fantasy, but the SITUATIONS dealt with weren't!

> >

> > No I have not volunteered at a public school lately. But I very

much

> > doubt one can point to vaccines as the only cause of what is

> happening

> > at public schools.

> >

> > Someone asked recently whether, if television had been around

when

> > Abraham Lincoln was a child, whether Abraham Lincoln would ever

have

> > BECOME the Abraham Lincon we remember today. Abe didn't

have " Beavis

> > and Butthead " to influence him. Whoever allowed THAT garbage to

get

> on

> > the tube should have been tarred, feathered and run out of town

on a

> > rail.

> >

> > There are all manner of things influencing children today, and

> vaccines

> > may or may not be just one of them.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oops----that was kind of a funny question: " Do you personally know

anyone who's been murdered? " I should have said, " DID you personally

know anyone who was murdered? "

But in fact, very much BECAUSE of the violence on TV and in movies,

MORE and MORE people ARE able to answer " yes " to the question, " Did you

personally know anyone who was murdered? "

Columbine High School, for instance, and other high schools, instantly

increased the number of individuals who could answer " yes " to that

question.

And if we keep up with the lunatic infatuation of making and watching

TV shows and movies about murder, it won't be too much longer before

more people will be able to answer " yes " to the question than " no. "

What we imagine, what we think, what we dwell upon, becomes our reality.

There used to be an afternoon TV show out of Canada that was for kids

and that showed interesting real life situations. One episode I

remember was about how a father took his son to a baseball game, and

one of the players gave his cap to the boy. The boy wore that cap

EVERYWHERE. Then it was stolen, and it turned out a wealthy lawyer's

son had taken it. The father of the boy whose cap it really was

happened to be in real need of money, so when the wealthy lawyer

offered to buy the cap for $100 dollars, the father accepted. His son

became enraged, and said he'd never talk to his father again. After

giving it some thought the father apologizes to his son, telling him he

made a mistake selling the cap, and also telling him he doesn't yet

understand the necessity of money. The two make up with each other, and

in the final scene, they're shown playing catch with each other.

No one punched in the mouth. No one murdered. Just a touching, real

life situation showing something I and probably a great many other men

wish would have happened when they were growing up---their father

treating them like a valued, if young, human being---admitting he made

a mistake and apologizing for it, and explaining why he did something

that appears incomprehensible/reprehensible.

How would it be if, instead of imagining physical injury and death, we

imagined stuff like THAT for several generations?