Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 In a message dated 12/7/99 2:24:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, diana@... writes: << However, I can only get my son to answer " What do you throw? - ball " expressively. Even though he can expressively label the pictures, he can not think of an expressive answer to a question " What do you read? " without a visual prompt and then the response really doesn't count (in my opinion). >> Ok, reminding every one that I feel like I have no place giving advice after only attending a two day conference, here goes an attempt to help( however lame it may be). Have you done the intraverbal transfer? What do you throw? ball( with visual) Pick visual up off table immediately " what do you throw " " ball. " or What do you throw? ball( with visual) Pick up visual " you throw a .... " " ball " . This part of the transfer is very important in our program. It is immediate. We make sure he is successful many times before we try the straight intraverbal on it's own, no pic, and we make sure we have a visual right there if he needs it( I've had materials specifially made for this- tact on front- intraverbals on the back). Much love and clumsiness in explaining via e-mail, kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 In a message dated 12/7/99 3:41:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, jennie@... writes: << am not at this stage, but experience tells me this would be a great bridging gap. Because Isaac has such severe aphasia still and the noun issue is neurological more than anything else, we're priming him and acting as if he will say these things eventually, hopefully sooner than later. >> The intraverbal transfer is really exciting. Maybe you can give it a try. love,kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 > >I am sharing this list to get others to share additional lists. >I need a good list of beginner Fill--ins like: > " ready, set, ____ " > " 1,2, ___ " > " Winnie the ____ " > Thanks for sharing this!!! My son is still to close to nonverbal to get many answers yet, which is why we have a consultant coming to do this approach. He is ready for a lot more language work now that he has receptive ability. However, just the above stuff is gonna take some work and then a little. >The ABLLS appendix 12 has a fill-in list but it is intraverbal. > >I also need some better ideas for Features of objects like: >Which one has a tail? >Which one has wheels? > >Thanks > We are only starting to do this, so we have done very little. We are more in the, " What do you sit on? " mode and he points to chair. Which one is shiny? (mirror) Which one has legs? (horse) Which one has stripes? (zebra) Which one has leaves? (tree, and we just did this visually and my son got it which threw me for a happy loop!) Which one has numbers? (clock) What one has seats? (car) Which one has a mane? (lion, horse) Which one has whiskers? (kitty, rabbit) Which one has many legs? (spider) These are some that come to mind. I love the list you generated and appreciate it since I was grappling for some new ideas. My son still needs those cards, but considering he could not identify more than three OBJECTS max last year, I am thrilled he can now not only identify tons, but can point to things by function, and if he needs the cue, than at this stage in the game I can say, You've come a long way baby. ;-) Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 > >Have you done the intraverbal transfer? What do you throw? ball( with >visual) Pick visual up off table immediately " what do you throw " " ball. " or > >What do you throw? ball( with visual) Pick up visual " you throw a .... " > " ball " . Kat, I am not at this stage, but experience tells me this would be a great bridging gap. Because Isaac has such severe aphasia still and the noun issue is neurological more than anything else, we're priming him and acting as if he will say these things eventually, hopefully sooner than later. We have been throwing in are function card questions very often now in between are more traditional drills and he seems to actually LIKE them and seems pleased when we ask. Maybe because he feels like he is talking, but anyhow, we often do this format, You throw a ______ and you put on socks and ______ and you blow a _____ and he has a field of three and points to the correct answer. He's gotten them right A LOT, and I am truly pleasantly surprised. I think when he gets more verbal with this, he will echo better since he is hearing it in several forms now. The other thing is he does speak now and then, usually appropriate but delayed echo. For instance tonight we were chowing down on chinese food. Isaac looked at me and commented, " Very good! " and I said, " Thanks, " even though all I did was microwave it. And he said, " Mommy, good. " and I smiled and a few minutes later he said, " Very, very good. (pause, and I could clearly see him trying to retrieve language by his expression, etc.,) and then he said verbally, " You did good! " I almost choked on my egg roll. I don't know how many times a week, Isaac has heard me say that to him when he does something well. I guess it was programmed and he was able to retrieve this expression at the right time. But, as I have mentioned on the other ABA list, Isaac still has next to no nouns and struggles with saying anything on command. Finally verbal Im is getting more consistent and we added another ocuple sounds. Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 1999 Report Share Posted December 8, 1999 >I have tried > >1. book on table - SD= " what's this? " - he says book >2. SD= " What do you read? " - no response >3. SD= " What do you read? book " - he'll say " book " in imitation > Do you think you can do " touch the one for reading " or something like that before What do you read?? Mariko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 1999 Report Share Posted December 8, 1999 Is anybody on the list in North Carolina or Southern Virginia? I would love to come and see this program in action. I think that Partington will be speaking at our next FEAT conference, but that is not until May and I would love to see how this works very soon!! Thanks, Carmen Kat1216@... wrote: > From: Kat1216@... > > In a message dated 12/7/99 3:41:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, > jennie@... writes: > > << am not at this stage, but experience tells me this would be a great > bridging gap. Because Isaac has such severe aphasia still and the noun > issue is neurological more than anything else, we're priming him and acting > as if he will say these things eventually, hopefully sooner than later. >> > The intraverbal transfer is really exciting. Maybe you can give it a try. > love,kat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 I am making the assumption that everyone on this list has the S/P book. It will make our discussions easier for everyone. It is a good book that is a prerequisite for understanding this teaching language approach. Here is a list of Receptive/Expressive Functions (RFFC) I've made. I have taught many of these receptively, by placing down 3 pictures and asking " What do you throw? " and he picks the ball. However, I can only get my son to answer " What do you throw? - ball " expressively. Even though he can expressively label the pictures, he can not think of an expressive answer to a question " What do you read? " without a visual prompt and then the response really doesn't count (in my opinion). I am sharing this list to get others to share additional lists. I need a good list of beginner Fill--ins like: " ready, set, ____ " " 1,2, ___ " " Winnie the ____ " The ABLLS appendix 12 has a fill-in list but it is intraverbal. I also need some better ideas for Features of objects like: Which one has a tail? Which one has wheels? Thanks List of Receptive/Expressive Functions 1 What do you throw? ball 2 What do you sit on? chair 3 What do you wear? shirt, pants 4 What do you eat? apple, banana,chip,cookie 5 What do you read? book 6 Where do you sleep? bed 7 What do you draw with? crayon 8 What do you ride? bike 9 Where do you swim? water 10 What do you sweep with? broom 11 What do you open? door 12 What do you color on? paper 13 What do you cut with? scissors 14 What do you watch? TV,show 15 What do you play with? ball, bubbles, train, beans 16 What do you catch? ball 17 What do you brush teeth with? toothbrush 18 What do you blow? bubbles 19 What do you push? swing 20 Where do you slide? park 21 What flys in the sky? airplane 22 What has wheels? car, motorcycle, truck, bus 23 What floats in the water? boat 24 Where do you go potty? bathroom 25 What goes choo choo? train 26 What do you wear on feet? shoes, socks 27 What do you wear on your head? hat 28 Where do you wash hands? sink 29 What says meow? cat 30 What says quack quack duck 31 What says whoof whoof dog 32 What says moo? cow 33 Where do you eat? kitchen 34 Where do you sleep? bedroom 35 Where do you watch TV? family room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 I have tried 1. book on table - SD= " what's this? " - he says book 2. SD= " What do you read? " - no response 3. SD= " What do you read? book " - he'll say " book " in imitation You know what I think, even though he knows these functions of objects receptively it is too much of a leap for him to do them expressively because he needs more expressive language practice at the Fill-In Level. Which is what the ABLLS would indicate. Do you teach in order of the ABLLS? Thanks >What do you throw? ball( with visual) Pick up visual " you throw a .... " > " ball " . This part of the transfer is very important in our program. It is >immediate. We make sure he is successful many times before we try the >straight intraverbal on it's own, no pic, and we make sure we have a visual >right there if he needs it( I've had materials specifially made for this- >tact on front- intraverbals on the back). Much love and clumsiness in >explaining via e-mail, kat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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