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Hello All,

I am new to this group and glad to be here!

My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old (Nutrivene-D)...including Piracetam.

I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry, obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the teenagers less kind and gentle.

Any thoughts, experiences or proof?

We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school today. He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam...but still cranky, argumentative and angry.

, Mom to 13, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre

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Hi ,

Glad to see you here! This is a very nice list with lots of good info!

We were having aggression problems with Faith (9) who was also on Piracetam. I

decreased it and finally cut it out. We started giving gingko in October and it

seems to help her stay " with it " as the piracetam did. She doesn't seem to be

hitting as much...but if she can get away with it she does. She is aggressive

when she feels out of control. So, I'm not really sure if the aggression had

anything to do with the piracetam, maybe it is all behavioral.

I just got the book " Mental Wellness in Adults with Down Syndrome " by Dennis

McGuire, PhD and Chicoine,MD on Dr. Leichtman's recommendation about

behavioral issues. I haven't read it yet, but I did hear Dr. Chicoine speak. In

his opinion, working with certain behaviors instead of against is more helpful.

Also seeing certain behaviors (such as self talk) as normal for DS is the way to

look at it.

That said, aggression is not acceptable, however advocacy, standing up for one's

self, and trying to get things your way are certainly acceptable in our society.

I think the trick is getting proper expression of these things. It is hard for

Faith to get control of a situation where there is lots of talking, she can't

keep up verbally and gets frustrated. Helping her to deal with that frustration

is what she needs. I've tried one on one with her and a typical friend to work

through some issues. I know has typical friends, could you use those

relationships to work through some of the aggression? To teens peer

relationships are so important as kids break away from their parents. Not many

teens are " lovable " !

Good luck! I see those teen years coming on all too fast!

ette

> From: " McElwee " <sandra.mcelwee@...>

> Date: 2007/04/16 Mon PM 11:56:49 EDT

> <Down Syndrome Treatment >

> Subject: TNI/Piracetam question

>

> Hello All,

> I am new to this group and glad to be here!

>

> My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old

(Nutrivene-D)...including Piracetam.

>

> I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry,

obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty

teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was

a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the

teenagers less kind and gentle.

>

> Any thoughts, experiences or proof?

>

> We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took

him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school

today. He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was

obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam...but still cranky, argumentative and

angry.

>

> , Mom to 13, DS, Southern California

> To succeed in life,

> you need three things:

> a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.

> ~ Reba McIntyre

>

>

> Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a

Prenatal Diagnosis

> http://www.leeworks.net/DDS/

> What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosis

> http://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html

>

>

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Hi and Welcome to the list!!

is only 6 so we haven't reached this stage yet. I do have 5 typical boys though and can tell you that each and everyone gets to a stage where they want to assert their manly 'superiority' over females, esp MOM and I think any female authority figure. ;-) They get so mouthy and opposional. This is a stage where reverse psychology works really well. ;-) Some are easier to deal with then others. One thing I have found to be very helpful is lots of physical activity and as much EFA as I can get into them. :-)

Dr Chicoine is here at Lutheran General and I too have heard him speak. They 'get it' there. I just love him and plan on making an apt for about 6 months prior to her turning 12 ( the youngest he takes pts). After reading the book, if you had questions, I would try calling them. I bet you would get a call back. :-) Better yet, have your local group invite them to speak!!!!

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Well funny you should suggest we have Dr. Chicoine come to speak! We're working on a conference, and had a meeting about it this morning!

I too believe it is mainly the age, and a ton of stress, but want to explore my options...do you all think Ginko AND Piracetam together is ok?

What does EFA stand for? I know it would help a lot if he could just have sex <HAHA> (I'm not serious, don't flame me)

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Re: TNI/Piracetam question

Hi and Welcome to the list!!

is only 6 so we haven't reached this stage yet. I do have 5 typical boys though and can tell you that each and everyone gets to a stage where they want to assert their manly 'superiority' over females, esp MOM and I think any female authority figure. ;-) They get so mouthy and opposional. This is a stage where reverse psychology works really well. ;-) Some are easier to deal with then others. One thing I have found to be very helpful is lots of physical activity and as much EFA as I can get into them. :-)

Dr Chicoine is here at Lutheran General and I too have heard him speak. They 'get it' there. I just love him and plan on making an apt for about 6 months prior to her turning 12 ( the youngest he takes pts). After reading the book, if you had questions, I would try calling them. I bet you would get a call back. :-) Better yet, have your local group invite them to speak!!!!

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I actually have him in a social skills class (private with a behaviorist) and his typical friends come as peer models...I was hoping they would learn skills to help them deal with his temper. They come home with him after school to 'buddysit' and when he gets mad at them I wanted them to have the tools to deal with it...even though I don't have the tools to deal with it! <grins>

, Mom to 13, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre

Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html

TNI/Piracetam question> > Hello All,> I am new to this group and glad to be here!> > My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old (Nutrivene-D)...including Piracetam. > > I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry, obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the teenagers less kind and gentle.> > Any thoughts, experiences or proof?> > We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school today. He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam...but still cranky, argumentative and angry.> > , Mom to 13, DS, Southern California> To succeed in life,> you need three things:> a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.> ~ Reba McIntyre > > > Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks.net/DDS/> What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html> >

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I don't know about piracetam and gingko together. I have never used piracetam. Just didn't feel right about it.

I heard that it was OK-

EFA- is essential fatty acids. You are looking for omega 3's which are difficult to come by in the standard american diet ( SAD) there used to a lot more of it available before corn became the feed for all animals and now even FISH for crying out loud.....animals/fish that are feed corn, do not have body fat with omega 3's.

If cattle is totally fed on pasture, they do produce some omega 3's !!! Also interesting to note that the whole E coli issues is totally the fault of corn fed beef. Cattle eating grass have a strain of E coli that our gut very simply destroys while the strain found in the corn fed beef is able to stand up to the high acidity of our gut!!! Corn raises the level of acid in a cows gut and the Ecoli mutated to live there.

May seem like I am rambling, but it's a fact that many people don't know and assume that since our forefathers ate a lot of animal fat and didn't have the same rate of heart disease and all, that we should too! Problem is the food consumed by the pioneers and our ancestors was vastly different then the meat plopped on your plate today, and the fish and eggs too. It's a sad fact but the base for almost everything we put in our mouths is CORN!! The wonderful diversty of greens and foods consumed by animals is long gone. Since we are what eat, we are all corn. Even our oil and sweetners are made of corn. We have become comsumers of one grain. It's no wonder we are sick...

Anyway- to get omega 3's buy a good brand of fish oil. Carlson's, Kirkman's there are others... buy the pasta with flax seeds, use vegatarian fed hen eggs and if you can, find organic pasture fed animals. :-) ( good luck on that one)

Omega 3 is NEEDED by the brain. It's easy to see why we are so lacking, with out it, all kinds of mental/cognitive issues occur.

Good book is, "The Omega 3 Connection" can't remember the author though..

I hope you voted for Dr Chicoine. My daughter is only 6, but I found him to be a very informative speaker. He would span all age groups.

Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1Mom to seven including , 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

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Hi and Welcome to the list!!

is only 6 so we haven't reached this stage yet. I do have 5 typical boys though and can tell you that each and everyone gets to a stage where they want to assert their manly 'superiority' over females, esp MOM and I think any female authority figure. ;-) They get so mouthy and opposional. This is a stage where reverse psychology works really well. ;-) Some are easier to deal with then others. One thing I have found to be very helpful is lots of physical activity and as much EFA as I can get into them. :-)

Dr Chicoine is here at Lutheran General and I too have heard him speak. They 'get it' there. I just love him and plan on making an apt for about 6 months prior to her turning 12 ( the youngest he takes pts). After reading the book, if you had questions, I would try calling them. I bet you would get a call back. :-) Better yet, have your local group invite them to speak!!!!

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I am just thinking out loud here: wonder if it would help to be enrolled in some type of physically challenging program?

I am thinking like hiking, camping, rock climbing, maybe a sport- something to get him all worn out.

How about body building at a local gym?

Anything that gets him sweating and worn out- then of course a cold shower!!!!!!! LOL

It's prolly true that he would be a lot happier if he could just have sex, but physical work has long been the moral stand in for teenage boys. :-) It's a tough age for all boys, all that testosterone to deal with.

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[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] TNI/Piracetam question> > Hello All,> I am new to this group and glad to be here!> > My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old (Nutrivene-D) ...including Piracetam. > > I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry, obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the teenagers less kind and gentle.> > Any thoughts, experiences or proof?> > We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school today.

He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam... but still cranky, argumentative and angry.> > , Mom to 13, DS, Southern California> To succeed in life,> you need three things:> a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.> ~ Reba McIntyre > > > Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/> What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/ speech.html> >

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I think physically challenging programs make sense. At least they have for us.

Eleanor selected weight training as an elective for high school. She is in year two of that.

This is a success on more than one level. Her body has benefited as one would expect.

Her weight is what it should be and it seems to have helped her make a clear connection

between what she eats and how she looks and feels. She voluntarily abandoned all desserts

and junk food. She is quick to point out the deficiencies of my own food selections.

But more important, she is now 100% independent at the gym. She and I have a membership at

24 Hour Fitness. We work out together a few times a week and I have no worry about what she

is doing or whether it will be safe. What pleases us most is that this is a life long skill that she

is developing and the gym is a natural part of her world. Since it is, sadly, rather unusual for people

to see a person with Down syndrome alone and happy in a place like a fitness center she has made

a number of 'gym-friends' and feels quite a home. She also has a personal trainer.

On the ironic side is the fraud of Oregon's "Self-Directed Supports" system. Eleanor has her little 'plan'

and asked them to pay for the gym. Of course they would not do that. ($29/month). However, because

the system will not and cannot imagine a person with Down syndrome actually being independent

they did offer to pay an 'attendant' to go with her. ($200/month) Just what she needs. An unnecessary nanny to separate

her from regular people and make her more dependent. So, it's up to us to do what we can to overcome

the institutional bias and prejudice and money wasting.

Sorry for the rant. The irony of it all is just irresistible.

T.

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Subject: Re: TNI/Piracetam question

I am just thinking out loud here: wonder if it would help to be enrolled in some type of physically challenging program?

I am thinking like hiking, camping, rock climbing, maybe a sport- something to get him all worn out.

How about body building at a local gym?

Anything that gets him sweating and worn out- then of course a cold shower!!!!!!! LOL

It's prolly true that he would be a lot happier if he could just have sex, but physical work has long been the moral stand in for teenage boys. :-) It's a tough age for all boys, all that testosterone to deal with.

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[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] TNI/Piracetam question> > Hello All,> I am new to this group and glad to be here!> > My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old (Nutrivene-D) ...including Piracetam. > > I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry, obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the teenagers less kind and gentle.> > Any thoughts, experiences or proof?> > We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school today. He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam... but still cranky, argumentative and angry.> > , Mom to 13, DS, Southern California> To succeed in life,> you need three things:> a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.> ~ Reba McIntyre > > > Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/> What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/ speech.html> >

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Gee I am so glad you posted this!!!! :-)

I have a gym membership and am taking Chrsitine on the weekends for the family hours there. The kids under 14 can swim, run the track and use the baskeball courts for free. She LOVES going there and I too thought it might end up being a life time activity to help with weight/strength issues as we both age. ;-)

I am trying to get my younger boys in the habit and it helps that the two older boys go three/four times a week too.

That is too bad about Oregon. I am not there yet- why not let them pay the $200 and have the aide go work out on her own??? ;-) At least it would be free for you and transportation for her if you couldn't make it?

There must be a board somewhere willing to hear about the waste of the money here????

We have to do something about all this foolishness... but what? People with disabilties are somewhat of a cash cow for many it seems. Yet, there are many families who really need some finacial help to deal with medical needs.

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[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] TNI/Piracetam question> > Hello All,> I am new to this group and glad to be here!> > My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old (Nutrivene-D) ...including Piracetam. > > I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry, obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the teenagers less kind and gentle.> > Any thoughts, experiences or proof?> > We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school today.

He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam... but still cranky, argumentative and angry.> > , Mom to 13, DS, Southern California> To succeed in life,> you need three things:> a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.> ~ Reba McIntyre > > > Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/> What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/ speech.html> >

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I used to give Danny Piracetam, but stopped after a couple of

months on gingko. I didn’t really feel comfortable giving both since

Piracetam has blood thinning properties:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ginkgo-biloba/NS_patient-ginkgo

The herb(gingko) is generally well tolerated, but due to

multiple case reports of bleeding, should be used cautiously in patients on

anti-coagulant therapy, with known coagulopathy, or prior to some surgical or

dental procedures.

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Subject: Re: TNI/Piracetam question

I

don't know about piracetam and gingko together. I have never used piracetam.

Just didn't feel right about it.

I

heard that it was OK-

EFA-

is essential fatty acids. You are looking for omega 3's which are

difficult to come by in the standard american diet ( SAD) there used to a

lot more of it available before corn became the feed for all animals and

now even FISH for crying out loud.....animals/fish that are feed corn, do not

have body fat with omega 3's.

If

cattle is totally fed on pasture, they do produce some omega 3's !!! Also

interesting to note that the whole E coli issues is totally the fault of

corn fed beef. Cattle eating grass have a strain of E coli that our

gut very simply destroys while the strain found in the corn fed

beef is able to stand up to the high acidity of our gut!!! Corn raises the

level of acid in a cows gut and the Ecoli mutated to live there.

May

seem like I am rambling, but it's a fact that many people don't know and assume

that since our forefathers ate a lot of animal fat and didn't have the same

rate of heart disease and all, that we should too! Problem is the food consumed

by the pioneers and our ancestors was vastly different then the meat plopped on

your plate today, and the fish and eggs too. It's a sad fact but the base

for almost everything we put in our mouths is CORN!! The wonderful diversty of

greens and foods consumed by animals is long gone. Since we are what eat, we

are all corn. Even our oil and sweetners are made of corn. We have become

comsumers of one grain. It's no wonder we are sick...

Anyway-

to get omega 3's buy a good brand of fish oil. Carlson's, Kirkman's there are

others... buy the pasta with flax seeds, use vegatarian fed hen eggs and if you

can, find organic pasture fed animals. :-) ( good luck on that one)

Omega

3 is NEEDED by the brain. It's easy to see why we are so lacking, with out it,

all kinds of mental/cognitive issues occur.

Good

book is, " The Omega 3 Connection " can't remember the author though..

I

hope you voted for Dr Chicoine. My daughter is only 6, but I found him to be a

very informative speaker. He would span all age groups.

Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1

Mom to seven including

, 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.

My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

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Syndrome information group -

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Hi

and Welcome to the list!!

is only 6 so we haven't reached this stage yet. I do have 5 typical boys though

and can tell you that each and everyone gets to a stage where they

want to assert their manly 'superiority' over females, esp MOM and I think

any female authority figure. ;-) They get so mouthy and opposional. This is a

stage where reverse psychology works really well. ;-) Some are

easier to deal with then others. One thing I have found to be very helpful

is lots of physical activity and as much EFA as I can get into them. :-)

Dr

Chicoine is here at Lutheran General and I too have heard him

speak. They 'get it' there. I just love him and plan on making an apt

for about 6 months prior to her turning 12 ( the youngest he takes

pts). After reading the book, if you had questions, I would try

calling them. I bet you would get a call back. :-) Better yet, have

your local group invite them to speak!!!!

Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1

Mom to seven including

, 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.

My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.

Join our Down

Syndrome information group -

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com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/

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I have been wanting to get him a personal trainer...but afraid if he gets stronger than he already is...I swear, he doesn't have the 'Down syndrome' body..he has a six-pack, pecs, 'guns' (loves to give a 'gun show') If I can get a good shot of him when he's all tanned this summer, I'm thinking of making a poster 'the NEW Body of DS' (just kidding)

He does play baseball, golf just started and he's in activities most nights of the week...does go to bed exhausted...

thanks for the 'out loud thoughts'!

, Mom to 13, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre

Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html

[DownSyndromeInfoEx change] TNI/Piracetam question> > Hello All,> I am new to this group and glad to be here!> > My son is 13, has been on TNI since he was 2.5 years old (Nutrivene-D) ...including Piracetam. > > I have a question of anybody who might know...He has been pretty angry, obstinate, argumenative, more than usual, unreasonable and just a pure bratty teenager the past few months. I seem to remember a few years ago that there was a thought that Piracetam could exacerbate puberty hormones and make the teenagers less kind and gentle.> > Any thoughts, experiences or proof?> > We tried a little 'experiement' last week during spring break and slowly took him off of it...and then had him back to normal dose for the start of school today. He was noticably 'slow' to answer questions, transition, and it was obvious he was 'off' of the Piracetam... but still cranky, argumentative and angry.> > , Mom to 13, DS, Southern California> To succeed in life,> you need three things:> a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.> ~ Reba McIntyre > > > Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/> What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosis> http://www.leeworks .net/DDS/ speech.html> >

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