Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Hi Chris: I was wondering about what the ultimate goal of the program is? Getting job skills is great but is there a guarantee of employment? For that kind of money, do you help with job placement? Who helps with generalization of skills to the real work setting? It is my experience, at least with my son who has autism, that he learns best in the setting in which he will be working. He gets bored in " manufactured " environments and in fact, the skills don't transfer very well... I appreciate that these companies are helping in some way, but wouldn't it be more practical for these companies to provide employment opportunities in their businesses, with the support that is needed to make each individual successful? I feel as though we are going backwards in terms of segregated learning environments...at the end of the day...where is this going? Please don't interpret this as hostile...I am just very concerned about how we include and integrate individuals into the mainstream of society and build acceptance from the outside...I am not understanding how this happens at Turning Pointe in the segregated classroom, or in this new endeavor...help me understand it. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Thank you for your ideas and they will be used for further program implementation. There will be opportunities to work in the environment with Turning Pointe and the actual company’s environment. We have realized the challenges that you have brought up and have worked to give the opportunity to be able to work in both environments to ensure a seamless transition. Our goal and the goal of the companies we work with are to place individuals in a paid position. Partnering with companies we are able to work with human resource and place our candidates in a paid position. The pay for each position is the same as anyone else entering into a position with Walgreens or Office Max. We have seen the issues you have discussed throughout the history of placing individuals with disabilities. We have found that designing a disability outreach program with corporations provides new opportunities and advantages to job placement. I have heard that Walgreens have learned a lot in the last few years and have been making changes to guarantee successful programs. This has been seen in Carolina and is slowly being rolled out into a national plan. Simler                                         \                                         \                                         \                               Owner/Consultant                                \                                         \                                       Integrated Behavioral Systems, Inc. www.integratedbehavioralsystems.com  Director of Career Development Turning Pointe Autism Foundation www.turningpointeaf.org  Cell Phone Number: 630-212-2249      From: Terrill <fickerterrill@...> Subject: RE: Question for Chris IPADDUnite Date: Monday, November 14, 2011, 10:24 PM  Hi Chris. I too have questions. Lou Brown taught us that pre means never, so you may want to rethink your language. Also, most people I know with IDD do not do well in a setting that is not the real job. I know lots of people are excited about Walgreen's but my daughter worked at the Walgreens' factory in the western suburbs for 5 months as part of her transition plan in high school. She loved the job, the employees liked her, she got excellent reviews, but when it came time to switch from the $2 an hour STEP program pay to a real job, even though there was an opening, Walgreens' would not hire her. They said there were insurance issues. Even though she learned how to do the " PIC " line at the typical speed, which I understand is a big entry requirement for Walgreens, they would not hire her. I am interested in Beth working for Walgreen's. Beth is interested in working at Walgreen's warehouse. How will your program open the door to a real job with real pay? From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of ELLEN BRONFELD Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:06 PM IPADDUnite Subject: Question for Chris Hi Chris: I was wondering about what the ultimate goal of the program is? Getting job skills is great but is there a guarantee of employment? For that kind of money, do you help with job placement? Who helps with generalization of skills to the real work setting? It is my experience, at least with my son who has autism, that he learns best in the setting in which he will be working. He gets bored in " manufactured " environments and in fact, the skills don't transfer very well... I appreciate that these companies are helping in some way, but wouldn't it be more practical for these companies to provide employment opportunities in their businesses, with the support that is needed to make each individual successful? I feel as though we are going backwards in terms of segregated learning environments...at the end of the day...where is this going? Please don't interpret this as hostile...I am just very concerned about how we include and integrate individuals into the mainstream of society and build acceptance from the outside...I am not understanding how this happens at Turning Pointe in the segregated classroom, or in this new endeavor...help me understand it. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... <mailto:egskb%40sbcglobal.net> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Hi I guess this question didn't get posted. What sources of funding are available for those over 22 or graduated from High School other than private pay for the ADDEPT Life Skills and Career Training Academy tuition/fees? Thais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 The goal of the program is to generate qualified candidates for career opportunities with the companies we partnered with. We also look at how to build skills geared towards independent living, organization, social communication, self advocacy and lifelong learning. The idea of the training environment is to prepare the individual for the position with the company. Emmet and Walgreens distribution in Carolina have seen great success by using this training model and have been able to place people within their company. There were over 100 people with disabilities placed in the distribution center by creating a disability outreach program. This training model was developed specifically so companies are able to have qualified candidates to place. This model is not intended to be inclusive to individual with disabilities. Walgreens has used this model in South Carolina for training purposes for employees with and without disabilities. The ultimate goal is to employ all candidates and support them within their employment but employment can unfortunately never be guaranteed. The skills and tasks are taught by Turning Pointe, Office Max and Walgreens employees. Both corporations want to have part in the training process so the candidates will understand the philosophy of the companies and learn from the managers they will report to. This program is not meant to segregate candidates out of society but to effectively and successfully include individuals into the competitive workforce and their community. We are interested in providing a place where individuals can build on their independence. Simler                                         \                                         \                                         \                               Owner/Consultant                                \                                         \                                       Integrated Behavioral Systems, Inc. www.integratedbehavioralsystems.com  Director of Career Development Turning Pointe Autism Foundation www.turningpointeaf.org  Cell Phone Number: 630-212-2249      From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Question for Chris IPADDUnite Date: Monday, November 14, 2011, 10:06 PM  Hi Chris: I was wondering about what the ultimate goal of the program is? Getting job skills is great but is there a guarantee of employment? For that kind of money, do you help with job placement? Who helps with generalization of skills to the real work setting? It is my experience, at least with my son who has autism, that he learns best in the setting in which he will be working. He gets bored in " manufactured " environments and in fact, the skills don't transfer very well... I appreciate that these companies are helping in some way, but wouldn't it be more practical for these companies to provide employment opportunities in their businesses, with the support that is needed to make each individual successful? I feel as though we are going backwards in terms of segregated learning environments...at the end of the day...where is this going? Please don't interpret this as hostile...I am just very concerned about how we include and integrate individuals into the mainstream of society and build acceptance from the outside...I am not understanding how this happens at Turning Pointe in the segregated classroom, or in this new endeavor...help me understand it. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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