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Hi Chris:

I was wondering about what the ultimate goal of the program is? Getting job

skills is great but is there a guarantee of employment?

For that kind of money, do you help with job placement?

Who helps with generalization of skills to the real work setting?

It is my experience, at least with my son who has autism, that he learns best in

the setting in which he will be working. He gets bored in " manufactured "

environments and in fact, the skills don't transfer very well...

I appreciate that these companies are helping in some way, but wouldn't it be

more practical for these companies to provide employment opportunities in their

businesses, with the support that is needed to make each individual successful?

I feel as though we are going backwards in terms of segregated learning

environments...at the end of the day...where is this going?

Please don't interpret this as hostile...I am just very concerned about how we

include and integrate individuals into the mainstream of society and build

acceptance from the outside...I am not understanding how this happens at Turning

Pointe in the segregated classroom, or in this new endeavor...help me understand

it.

Thanks.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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Thank you for your ideas and they will be used for further program

implementation. There will be opportunities to work in the environment with

Turning Pointe and the actual company’s environment. We have realized the

challenges that you have brought up and have worked to give the opportunity to

be able to work in both environments to ensure a seamless transition. Our goal

and the goal of the companies we work with are to place individuals in a paid

position. Partnering with companies we are able to work with human resource and

place our candidates in a paid position. The pay for each position is the same

as anyone else entering into a position with Walgreens or Office Max. We have

seen the issues you have discussed throughout the history of placing individuals

with disabilities. We have found that designing a disability outreach program

with corporations provides new opportunities and advantages to job placement. I

have heard that Walgreens have

learned a lot in the last few years and have been making changes to guarantee

successful programs. This has been seen in Carolina and is slowly being rolled

out into a national plan.

Simler

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Integrated Behavioral Systems, Inc.

www.integratedbehavioralsystems.com

 

Director of Career Development

Turning Pointe Autism Foundation

www.turningpointeaf.org 

 

Cell Phone Number: 630-212-2249

 

   

 

From: Terrill <fickerterrill@...>

Subject: RE: Question for Chris

IPADDUnite

Date: Monday, November 14, 2011, 10:24 PM

 

Hi Chris.

I too have questions. Lou Brown taught us that pre means never, so you may

want to rethink your language. Also, most people I know with IDD do not do

well in a setting that is not the real job. I know lots of people are

excited about Walgreen's but my daughter worked at the Walgreens' factory in

the western suburbs for 5 months as part of her transition plan in high

school. She loved the job, the employees liked her, she got excellent

reviews, but when it came time to switch from the $2 an hour STEP program

pay to a real job, even though there was an opening, Walgreens' would not

hire her. They said there were insurance issues. Even though she learned

how to do the " PIC " line at the typical speed, which I understand is a big

entry requirement for Walgreens, they would not hire her. I am interested

in Beth working for Walgreen's. Beth is interested in working at Walgreen's

warehouse. How will your program open the door to a real job with real

pay?

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Behalf Of ELLEN BRONFELD

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:06 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Question for Chris

Hi Chris:

I was wondering about what the ultimate goal of the program is? Getting job

skills is great but is there a guarantee of employment?

For that kind of money, do you help with job placement?

Who helps with generalization of skills to the real work setting?

It is my experience, at least with my son who has autism, that he learns

best in the setting in which he will be working. He gets bored in

" manufactured " environments and in fact, the skills don't transfer very

well...

I appreciate that these companies are helping in some way, but wouldn't it

be more practical for these companies to provide employment opportunities in

their businesses, with the support that is needed to make each individual

successful?

I feel as though we are going backwards in terms of segregated learning

environments...at the end of the day...where is this going?

Please don't interpret this as hostile...I am just very concerned about how

we include and integrate individuals into the mainstream of society and

build acceptance from the outside...I am not understanding how this happens

at Turning Pointe in the segregated classroom, or in this new

endeavor...help me understand it.

Thanks.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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Hi

I guess this question didn't get posted.

What sources of funding are available for those over 22 or

graduated from High School other than private pay for the ADDEPT Life

Skills and Career Training Academy tuition/fees?

Thais

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The goal of the program is to generate qualified candidates for career

opportunities with the companies we partnered with. We also look at how to build

skills geared towards independent living, organization, social communication,

self advocacy and lifelong learning.

The idea of the training environment is to prepare the individual for the

position with the company. Emmet and Walgreens distribution in Carolina

have seen great success by using this training model and have been able to place

people within their company. There were over 100 people with disabilities placed

in the distribution center by creating a disability outreach program. This

training model was developed specifically so companies are able to have

qualified candidates to place. This model is not intended to be inclusive to

individual with disabilities. Walgreens has used this model in South Carolina

for training purposes for employees with and without disabilities. The ultimate

goal is to employ all candidates and support them within their employment but

employment can unfortunately never be guaranteed.

The skills and tasks are taught by Turning Pointe, Office Max and Walgreens

employees. Both corporations want to have part in the training process so the

candidates will understand the philosophy of the companies and learn from the

managers they will report to.

This program is not meant to segregate candidates out of society but to

effectively and successfully include individuals into the competitive workforce

and their community. We are interested in providing a place where individuals

can build on their independence.

Simler

                                        \

                                        \

                                        \

                             

 

Owner/Consultant                                \

                                        \

                                      

Integrated Behavioral Systems, Inc.

www.integratedbehavioralsystems.com

 

Director of Career Development

Turning Pointe Autism Foundation

www.turningpointeaf.org 

 

Cell Phone Number: 630-212-2249

 

   

 

From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...>

Subject: Question for Chris

IPADDUnite

Date: Monday, November 14, 2011, 10:06 PM

 

Hi Chris:

I was wondering about what the ultimate goal of the program is? Getting job

skills is great but is there a guarantee of employment?

For that kind of money, do you help with job placement?

Who helps with generalization of skills to the real work setting?

It is my experience, at least with my son who has autism, that he learns best in

the setting in which he will be working. He gets bored in " manufactured "

environments and in fact, the skills don't transfer very well...

I appreciate that these companies are helping in some way, but wouldn't it be

more practical for these companies to provide employment opportunities in their

businesses, with the support that is needed to make each individual successful?

I feel as though we are going backwards in terms of segregated learning

environments...at the end of the day...where is this going?

Please don't interpret this as hostile...I am just very concerned about how we

include and integrate individuals into the mainstream of society and build

acceptance from the outside...I am not understanding how this happens at Turning

Pointe in the segregated classroom, or in this new endeavor...help me understand

it.

Thanks.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

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