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Would anyone with experience in choosing a job coach for supported employment

through DRS care to share. Specifically, about Naperville, Dupage County

experience with Parent Alliance Employment Project, Spectrum, SEP, or Ray

Graham.

Did they find you work in the community or did you have to find it?

Did they find job coaches for you or were you able to hire your own?

Were they well trained in making appropriate accomodations in the work place?

Thanks

Thais

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You've listed the 4 agencies that do job coaching in DuPage County, except it's

SEA, not SEP.

All of these agencies do " job development " , that is, they will look for a job

for your kid.  They have coaches who are trained in looking for jobs, in

coaching your kid on interviews, and in co-operating with employers to help your

kid learn the job and make any reasonable adaptations to be successful.

However, to make DRS happy, and their jobs more sane, job coaches must set

priorities.  If they are spending too much time on finding jobs and not enough

on keeping the currently-employed folks doing well, then there will be a lot

more people in the caseload who need jobs!  They are checking up, in the

workplace, on each employed person at least weekly.

The job coach also supports the person in the workplace as much as needed,

within what DRS will pay for.  (If you think your kid needs more job coaching

time at the job, make your case to the DRS rep.)  The coach also chats with you,

telling you about the boss, the co-workers, the job, etc.  This is really great,

because some of our kids do not really chat about work!

We found that the coaches we worked with were very good at listening and taking

our suggestions, including on what kind of jobs would not be a good idea for

Neal.  You can't say no to everything, but we wished to avoid jobs that required

a lot of social skills out of Neal.

Most of what they do, you can do, which is look at online job listings.  Ask the

job coach if that's o.k. 

Ours were fine with it, but asked that if I'd emailed a resume, to email them a

copy of the ad.  That turned out to be very useful.  Based on your son's past

work and volunteer experiences, ask them what key words to search for, and what

job search engines they suggest.  

Everyone from transition job co-ordinators to DRS to job coaches at agencies

will urge you to think through your family, friends, and other contacts for

possible leads.  There's a reason.  Most people with jobs did NOT get them

through Monster.com and other online job listings.  Most job openings are not

even advertised.  The boss says, " Does anyone around here know someone who... "

Neal used SEA (Supported Employment Associates), from in June 2007 (just after

transition) to March 2011 (when DRS closed his case).  During that time he had 2

job coaches; the first one retired.  Both had work experience in for-profit

companies and a great understanding of people.  Both truly loved Neal because he

has lots of energy, wants to please, and doesn't complain. 

I was extremely pleased with his coaches.  They were very professional, had a

lot of common sense, and the good taste to appreciate my son.

We met together and with the DRS rep on a regular basis--every few months.  It's

mostly to inform the DRS rep, for the record, of what's been done in seeking or

keeping a job.

Neal had a few different jobs, mostly in warehousing; he had some experience in

high school and transition in warehouse-type jobs.  He needed little in the way

of accommodations, mostly in interviewing.  His job coaches hung around for most

of the first day on the job, made suggestions to the trainers about how Neal

learned best, and that was most of the accommodations.  One of his job coaches

told me stories (leaving out details for the sake of privacy) of a few

adaptations she'd helped others with. 

Accommodations also need buy-in from the employer and boss.  ADA talks about

reasonable accommodations, so ask a job coach what would be viewed as reasonable

by ADA, and feasible by the average employer.

-Gail

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From: Francis PALLUAU <fpalluau@...>

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Cc: IPADDUnite

Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:31 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: job coaches

 

Would anyone with experience in choosing a job coach for supported employment

through DRS care to share. Specifically, about Naperville, Dupage County

experience with Parent Alliance Employment Project, Spectrum, SEP, or Ray

Graham.

Did they find you work in the community or did you have to find it?

Did they find job coaches for you or were you able to hire your own?

Were they well trained in making appropriate accomodations in the work place?

Thanks

Thais

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Thank you Gail,

That was very thorough! Yes the Dupage DRS office told me that I could choose

the agency so that is why I asked for input. He also indicated that it would be

best if I found the job because funding for this program has been reduced so

that individuals may not have more than 18 months and that includes the interest

inventory and job search not the actual time on the job. So I am looking for an

agency that is willing to work with me and his team. I would appreciate a job

coach who is creative in making accommodations as well. Do some agencies let

you choose the job coach?

Thais

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If any of the agencies let you choose the coach, that's news to me.  They are

mostly trying to balance caseloads.

The DRS remarks about trying to find the job is a reflection of Illinois'

financial straights even more than the job market, and this is a major policy

change, probably set by the legislature. 

Why have we not heard about this change before?  This is major!!!

What's amazing is the federal-state disconnect.  The point of job coaching,

funded through DRS, is to get folks off of SSI and into paid employment.

Long range, this may be a topic for national advocacy groups to pursue.  Should

the feds be kicking in something to state DRS, considering that DRS is trying to

help those with disabilities become employed and get off SSI?  How similar are

the job coaching times for various states?  If the answers are " yes " and " not

very similar " , then it's worth discussing at the federal level.

Meanwhile, you might want to see what the agencies say to the possibility of you

paying for services, beyond the DRS funding.  I have no idea what they'd charge,

but it'd be interesting to know.

-Gail

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From: Francis PALLUAU <fpalluau@...>

IPADDUnite

Cc: IPADD <IPADDUnite >

Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:20 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: job coaches

 

Thank you Gail,

That was very thorough! Yes the Dupage DRS office told me that I could choose

the agency so that is why I asked for input. He also indicated that it would be

best if I found the job because funding for this program has been reduced so

that individuals may not have more than 18 months and that includes the interest

inventory and job search not the actual time on the job. So I am looking for an

agency that is willing to work with me and his team. I would appreciate a job

coach who is creative in making accommodations as well. Do some agencies let

you choose the job coach?

Thais

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I'll ask that question as I call around to the agencies and post what they say.

What I meant about choosing a job coach, if you know someone who'd make a really

good job coach would they hire them, just like with certain agencies for

home-based we hire our PSWs

Thais.

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