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Hi Terrie,

First, let me take this opportunity to thank you for taking the time to respond

to so many of our questions.

I am really struggling with trying to figure out this whole charging rent, fair

share, or room and board issue. What I find so interesting (and frustrating) is

that I know for certain that some families have been able to retain their entire

SSI money despite the fact that they are not charging their loved one " rent " .

Some have slid through calling it " shared expenses " (despite not having to show

proof of fair share) or some were able to call it " room and board " . I do

understand the 1/3 reduction due to voluntary in-kind support. My daughter

initially had the 1/3 reduction until I informed SSI that we were charging her

rent.

You wrote:

> When you pay yourself rent from SSI funds, you are simply using part of your

child's SSI to reimburse yourself for fair share of household expenses so it

isn't considered rental income 'per se', merely shared living expenses.

>

I have a few questions:

1) Why do we have to claim the money we collect for " rent " on our taxes? My

husband and I don't really consider it income as the entire amount collected is

spent on other needs for my daughter.

2) My daughter's Redetermination for SSI states that she does NOT buy her food

separately from other household members. This is incorrect ... I have been

purchasing her food separately (with a monthly average total of $300 for food).

Does this matter? Should I contact SSI and show proof that she does purchase

her food separately and hope to get an increase in SSI while declining the rent

money? I'd rather not charge her rent, but want to figure out a way to retain

the full SSI check.

3) Also, if we do continue to charge my daughter " rent " would she still

qualify for the Link card via the SNAP program? I contacted them directly and

was told that because my daughter was over the age of 22 that she would qualify

for the Link card, but then I read that she would not qualify if she was a

boarder. Is that the same as someone who pays rent?

I hope that my questions made sense. I truly appreciate any response(s) you

might have.

Thank you~

Lori

On Apr 12, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Theresa Varnet wrote:

> is correct. For example if your child received a Section 8 voucher and

each month HUD sends you a check for rent, then you would receive a 1099 for the

total rent rec'd. When you pay yourself rent from SSI funds, you are simply

using part of your child's SSI to reimburse yourself for fair share of household

expenses so it isn't considered rental income 'per se', merely shared living

expenses.

>

> I was out of town and didn't have time to respond to an earlier email where

someone asked about paying for summer camp. While camp is an allowable expense,

if your child spends all of their SSI check on camp and doesn't save enough to

contribute to household expenses, s/he will not get the full SSI check. So pay

rent or fair share expense first and then use whatever is left for goods and

services that benefit the SSI recipient. You can supplement the cost of camp

out of your own pocket but if you supplement total food and shelter expenses,

this will be deemed as 'inkind support' and result in a 1/3rd loss of SSI. So

instead of receiving $674, your child will only receive $450 per month. The

rationale being if your child is receiving inkind support, s/he does not need

the full check because they are getting 'free' or subsidized housing from the

parent or other relative.

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> Terrie Varnet

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> From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...>

> Subject: Re: Sheri or / re: 1099 for Rent

> IPADDUnite

> Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 7:13 PM

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> Lori,

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> 1099's are issued by businesses. Social Security would not issue them. SSA is

not paying you rent, so they would not be issuing it. 1099-Misc for rent would

have to be issued by a business to someone (person or business) they are paying

rent to.

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> > Good Afternoon Sheri and ,

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> > I am wondering if either of you could answer a question I have regarding the

1099 Tax Form.

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> > Why doesn't Social Security issue a 1099-Misc Form (for other income or

rent) to those of us parents charging our disabled adults rent?

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> > Thanks for your help :)

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> > Lori

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