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IDEA practices under related services--also check you state regs.

transportation question

hi again all......since i lost everything and Kents sites to the

greatful

dead hasnt been much help could someone PLEASE help me figure out

where to

find the law that states children are to get door to door

transportation..........my niece is going to be running into problems

next

year and we want to be able to start fighting it now..........

she is " labeled " mentally retarted...........

any info would be great

thanks

Dana

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Hi ,

Thanks for sharing your story. Isn't a huge shame what we have to go

through??

My Mom was asking me today why this always happens to our family.........I

tried to explain to her that I didn't think our family was the only

one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she ONLY KNEW!!!

It is hard and it is very exhausting. They just don't know what all we go

through. I am VERY sure she didn't know that the same girl I am trying to get to

a social program underwent her 10th surgery yesterday and had a partial lung

collapse!! Sad that they have lost or worse yet never had compassion for

the very kids they work for!

Boy, we could spend a weekend together sharing stories! LOL

Laurie

Mama to 4 (3 w/special needs)

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In a message dated 9/12/2007 1:02:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

leslie-kerrigan@... writes:

I wish I could think of something better :-)

You've done good for me........boosted the confidence....I need that every

now and then Even if I have a good cry first, at least they know my heart is in

it! =)

Laurie

Mom to Bri w/trisomy9p, Marissa w/cerebral palsy, Kayla w/Down syndrome and

great brother !

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What state are you in? Here in NY the children do not have to be taken to

the same place everyday of the week. I would google your state's education

department and through that find transportation guidelines. Here is the link

to NY's

_http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/schoolbus/_ (http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/schoolbus/)

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Hi Laurie,

I hear your scream all the way here :-) Thankfully, we are done with

dealing with transportation (we walk to our home school now, and my

biggest frustrations are idiots in the parking lot on days we drive, but

it's still better than transportation, LOL). Many of our district,

transportation administrators are arrogant, pig-headed, and completely

sel-rightous about their " rules " , which are based on who knows what, but

never on fact or law. We had issues in preschool almost daily.... some

drivers would come to our house (as per IEP), others refused because

they had to use our asphault drive to turn around (we are at the end of

a lane that dead-ends) and we might sue them for damaging our driveway

(I offered to submit a notarized affidavit saying please turn in our

driveway, we will not sue you, but that wasn't good enough), some

drivers would not even find us, some drivers would make sure an aide met

at school, others would just drop her off and then leave....

every week it was something else, and they could always make up a " rule "

that made them right. Before they had the appropriate harnass/seatbelts

on the special ed busses, I send with her car seat (she was

3). Some drivers refused to let me use a private car seat, some were

fine, but then the afternoon driver wouldn't let her use it on the way

home..... it's almost hillarious now, but I spent a lot of time

screaming at transportation.

Although you are completely right, and transportation should deal with 2

different drop off locations, it's probably easier to call and IEP

meeting, write a social goal that will be met, at least in part, by

going to the after school program for socialization skills, and then

tell transportation that it's in her IEP, and they'd better make it work.

Good luck!

, mom to (11), (9 DS), and Sammy (8)

trier9@... wrote:

> PLEASE would someone tell me that I am RIGHT this time?? I am so

> frustrated

> w/the special ed system right now!!

>

> I want my daughter to go to an after school program for socialization

> skills.

>

> So, only asked that her daily bus NOT bring her home on

> MWF's.............3

> days less a week.

>

> And instead get on the bus w/2 other girls from her class and go to the

> program. The other bus is ALREADY at her school!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>

> " Transportation " replies.............WE don't take kids to different

> places

> after school...has to be the same place 5 days a week. HUGH??

>

> What if I worked part time and needed her dropped at daycare 2 days a

> week?

>

> Help!

>

> Laurie

> Frustrated Mom of 4 ready to scream!

>

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>

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Is the afterschool program affiliated with or provided by the school?

Is the bus that is transporting a school district bus or private?

Do the other young ladies ride to the afterschool every day or just those

three?

As a last resort, If the IEP says they provide transportation to a different

drop off point, then they do. ; )

Judi

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of trier9@...

Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:51 PM

Subject: Transportation Question

PLEASE would someone tell me that I am RIGHT this time?? I am so frustrated

w/the special ed system right now!!

I want my daughter to go to an after school program for socialization

skills.

So, only asked that her daily bus NOT bring her home on MWF's.............3

days less a week.

And instead get on the bus w/2 other girls from her class and go to the

program. The other bus is ALREADY at her school!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" Transportation " replies.............WE don't take kids to different places

after school...has to be the same place 5 days a week. HUGH??

What if I worked part time and needed her dropped at daycare 2 days a week?

Help!

Laurie

Frustrated Mom of 4 ready to scream!

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They don't have a choice! " Sec. 602(26)(A)

In general.--The term `related services' means transportation, and

such developmental, corrective, and other supportive services....... "

copy and pasted from: http://idea.ed.gov/explore/search

My interpretation is they have to do it! The " related services " of

the IEP clearly includes transportation. They must include related

services in the IEP because it is a part of the IEP and related

services clearly includes transportation!!

Jackie Boyd

>

>

> Is the afterschool program affiliated with or provided by the school?

> It is not affiliated w/the school

> Is the bus that is transporting a school district bus or private?

> Yes, it is the school bus that takes the other girls there

> Do the other young ladies ride to the afterschool every day or just

those

> three?

> Not sure?

> As a last resort, If the IEP says they provide transportation to a

different

> drop off point, then they do. ; )

>

> They won't put it into her IEP because .................drum

> roll..............here is their educated

>

answer..........................................................................\

...................................................

> .......................

> ..............WE JUST DON'T DO THAT.

>

>

> =)

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

>

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OK, now I am screaming for you :-) Actually, maybe screaming is a good

idea now, or crying or making so other sad, pathetic scene that you make

everyone so uncomfortable that it's just easier to fix this little issue

than have you sobbing all over their desk?

The IEP team's " We just don't do that " would be my starter now, just

because I would want them to know that it's not an acceptable answer.

Who knows what else they " just won't do "

I wish I could think of something better :-)

, mom to (11), (9 DS), and Sammy (8)

> As a last resort, If the IEP says they provide transportation to a

> different

> drop off point, then they do. ; )

>

> They won't put it into her IEP because .................drum

> roll..............here is their educated

>

answer..........................................................................\

...................................................

> .......................

> ..............WE JUST DON'T DO THAT.

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 9/12/07 5:54:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ANGEL2COOK

writes:

> BTW afterschool programs are covered under the IEP FAPE. So check out what

> the program is and if you can make it fit. If

Thanks Jeannette! Sounds like you know your stuff!! I hope to be more

confident soon. I have to for my newly adopted girls w/special needs.

It really is great to be able to throw questions out to this list though.

Thanks again!

Laurie

Mama to 4

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In a message dated 9/12/07 2:11:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jboyd@...

writes:

> If they can't keep

> that straight how can they keep everything else straight? Ya know,

> schools just really tick me off sometimes! I just don't understand

> how they can get away with completely blowing of the laws in place

Me too Jackie! Guess I just got the 'blanket' answer that would turn most

parents away..........they don't know I have this great list on my side =)

Thank YOU!!

Laurie

Mama to 4

ages 25 months to 18 years!

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Your school system needs to get the flexibility needed to deal with

special needs and programs which aren't all at the home school!

Jan got transportation to her after school job and for a while they also

brought her home after the job. She was working as a volunteer in day care.

Jan got transportation to another girl's home one day a week when she

went to with that cwds to horseback riding lessons. The girl she went

riding with wasn't at her school.

Jan got summer transportation to and from a job working in childcare at

one of the school sites. She had that for two summers.

When she worked for Mcs (as a follow-up to a cooking class she

took), she had transportation to the job and then to home.

OK, when she stayed long after school to take part in the school musical

(two different years), I had to pick her up and bring her home.

None of this was trivial. Jan never went to school in district, but the

district did what was needed to for her development.

The idea that transportation for special needs can't happen is like

saying that the football team has to be picked up by parents after practice.

Yes, I worked and so did Jan's Mom. We worked hard to have the

flexibility to meet the needs Jan had, but we needed the help.

end of rant ...

Rick ... dad to Jan 34 years old ... whose transportation is the

same one used by senior citizens locally $3 a ride to anywhere

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In a message dated 9/13/07 10:52:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rdill@... writes:

> When she worked for Mcs (as a follow-up to a cooking class she

> took), she had transportation to the job and then to home.

Wow RIck! And then to home? That is one thing I am not even going to try for.

Just get my girl to the after school program. I'm encouraged to hear it being

able to 'work' for Jan. That is really all I need. Just to get information

that it can be done and I am not asking for a miracle here!

Thanks a million! I'm not done yet..........=)

Laurie

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I was told by another parent that PSW's travel free on public transportation

when they accompy a person with disabilities. I've searched the ADA website and

found nothing about it. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? If so,

can you send me the details?

Thanks, Jama

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The only times we've used Bill's Ride Free card, is on Metra. Conductors let

him ride free, but always charge me, even though I'm his PSW at the time.

Transportation Question

I was told by another parent that PSW's travel free on public transportation

hen they accompy a person with disabilities. I've searched the ADA website and

ound nothing about it. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? If so,

an you send me the details?

hanks, Jama

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