Guest guest Posted January 25, 2002 Report Share Posted January 25, 2002 you quote exactly the work we have achieved in the last year through the project in east somerset. Its been a long hard slog, but we have achieved everything you mention, and even come out the other side without losing a single person! (they left before the project began) so we are all getting ready to celebrate our hard work. Any work you would like/need, I'm happy to share, from profiling to reviewing core surveillance programme to sorring out and avoiding conflicts! regards, Xena >>> charlene@... 01/25/02 12:59pm >>> , Woody and all others Looks like Chelmsford is good. In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we are still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be good. the issues at hand for us are: 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public health scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other activities they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs of school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the inconsistency in service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. some parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were not; some were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some hadn't seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall report, we have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, and what some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal contact, PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in guidelines and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying out similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings from other teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst doing this. 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family health needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be collected and collated to contribute to community and population needs assessment. How do we collect and share information with other disciplines to help joint approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have been doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident that we are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical frameworks. 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get a consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on need. These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our CPHVA regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I wonder whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 I would welcome such a study, as i am a newly qualified health visitor currently struggling with the issues of caseload weighting and as i work in a PCG about to merge with another PCT which has very different service provision i feel that the issues you outlined are exacly what the health visitors in our area are struggling with. I feel positive that this sort of content on a study day is exacly what the CPHVA should support as these are the real issues that influence the ability of Health Visitors to address their public health role. Good luck Charlene I am definately in. Corrie --- Charlene Lobo <charlene@...> wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> , Woody and all others<BR> Looks like Chelmsford is good.<BR> In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we are<BR> still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be good. & nbsp; the<BR> issues at hand for us are:<BR> <BR> 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public health<BR> scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other activities<BR> they do. & nbsp; In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs of<BR> school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the inconsistency in<BR> service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. some<BR> parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were not; some<BR> were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some hadn't<BR> seen a HV etc. etc. & nbsp; In the light of this and the proposed Hall report, we<BR> have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, and what<BR> some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal contact,<BR> PND pathways. & nbsp; And yes Xena, & nbsp; we are looking at grounding this in guidelines<BR> and protocols. & nbsp; We know that there are many other HV teams carrying out<BR> similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings from other<BR> teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst doing this.<BR> <BR> 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family health<BR> needs assessment'. & nbsp; How and what information/data needs to be collected and<BR> collated to contribute to community and population needs assessment. & nbsp; How do<BR> we collect and share information with other disciplines to help joint<BR> approaches. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Again it would be good to share the work others have been<BR> doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident that we<BR> are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical frameworks.<BR> <BR> 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get a<BR> consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on need.<BR> <BR> These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? & nbsp; Our CPHVA<BR> regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I wonder<BR> whether it would be appropriate for them to support this?<BR> <BR> Charlene<BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 Hi Charlene and Xena It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we also are looking at health needs assessment, child health surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly slowly - is it like that for others? Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about the triumph of hope over experience!! It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone reinventing wheels. Regards > , Woody and all others > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we are > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be good. the > issues at hand for us are: > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public health > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other activities > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs of > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the inconsistency in > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. some > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were not; some > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some hadn't > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall report, we > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, and what > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal contact, > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in guidelines > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying out > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings from other > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst doing this. > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family health > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be collected and > collated to contribute to community and population needs assessment. How do > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help joint > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have been > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident that we > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical frameworks. > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get a > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on need. > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our CPHVA > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I wonder > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 Hi Corrie, I am presently pursuing a study day in June/ July in Chelmsford. I will keep you informed once the venue, dates etc are arranged. I agree that study days should be offered to support HVs in their public health role. Re: Meeting > I would welcome such a study, as i am a newly > qualified health visitor currently struggling with the > issues of caseload weighting and as i work in a PCG > about to merge with another PCT which has very > different service provision i feel that the issues you > outlined are exacly what the health visitors in our > area are struggling with. I feel positive that this > sort of content on a study day is exacly what the > CPHVA should support as these are the real issues that > influence the ability of Health Visitors to address > their public health role. Good luck Charlene I am > definately in. > Corrie > > --- Charlene Lobo <charlene@...> wrote: > > <HR> > <html><body> > > > <tt> > , Woody and all others<BR> > Looks like Chelmsford is good.<BR> > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move > forward, but we are<BR> > still struggling and a study day to help move forward > would be good. & nbsp; the<BR> > issues at hand for us are:<BR> > <BR> > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the > wider public health<BR> > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of > the other activities<BR> > they do. & nbsp; In a recent parent focus group to > assess the health needs of<BR> > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was > the inconsistency in<BR> > service delivery by health visiting experienced by > some parents ie. some<BR> > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, > some were not; some<BR> > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't > know why), some hadn't<BR> > seen a HV etc. etc. & nbsp; In the light of this and the > proposed Hall report, we<BR> > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr > questionnaires, and what<BR> > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail > eg antenatal contact,<BR> > PND pathways. & nbsp; And yes Xena, & nbsp; we are looking > at grounding this in guidelines<BR> > and protocols. & nbsp; We know that there are many other > HV teams carrying out<BR> > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and > findings from other<BR> > teams and be supported and guided by those with > expertise whilst doing this.<BR> > <BR> > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what > constitutes 'family health<BR> > needs assessment'. & nbsp; How and what information/data > needs to be collected and<BR> > collated to contribute to community and population > needs assessment. & nbsp; How do<BR> > we collect and share information with other > disciplines to help joint<BR> > approaches. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Again it would be good > to share the work others have been<BR> > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we > feel confident that we<BR> > are developing high quality practice within legal and > ethical frameworks.<BR> > <BR> > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and > trying to get a<BR> > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the > Trust based on need.<BR> > <BR> > These are some ideas for a study day what do others > think? & nbsp; Our CPHVA<BR> > regional committee were looking to support a regional > study day, I wonder<BR> > whether it would be appropriate for them to support > this?<BR> > <BR> > Charlene<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " > color=#003399><b> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 Hello to everyone It does feel as though tghere is agreat need out there for opportunities to get together and share experiences: folk may be duplicating efort, but it may also be a case of 'great minds think alike.' I think it is very encouraging and exciting that we seem to have identified a 'methodology' for moving gradually from where we were to where we want to be. But of course, there is always a need for support and encouragement to keep going, because it is not an easy journey! After the Gloucester study day, I think it was Charlene who spoke of a need for a kind of rolling 'road show' to help all areas to gain from and share expertise as it develops, and that may be what we are moving towards. If we can have one study day in East Anglia in June/July, perhaps Sue in Liverpool may think of one a bit later in the year: September/October? Happy to help however I can Kind regards angelahurley2002 wrote: > Hi Charlene and Xena > It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work > and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we > also are looking at health needs assessment, child health > surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across > what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly > slowly - is it like that for others? > Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we > haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't > had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified > now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. > Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about > the triumph of hope over experience!! > It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it > helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I > sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone > reinventing wheels. > Regards > > > > > , Woody and all others > > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we > are > > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be > good. the > > issues at hand for us are: > > > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public > health > > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other > activities > > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs > of > > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the > inconsistency in > > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. > some > > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were > not; some > > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some > hadn't > > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall > report, we > > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, > and what > > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > contact, > > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > guidelines > > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying > out > > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings > from other > > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst > doing this. > > > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family > health > > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be > collected and > > collated to contribute to community and population needs > assessment. How do > > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help > joint > > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have > been > > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident > that we > > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical > frameworks. > > > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get > a > > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on > need. > > > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our > CPHVA > > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I > wonder > > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > > > Charlene > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 I would support these as being the main issues that we are trying to address, a session of information sharing and expert speakers talking around these issues would be great. How far on are you with your guidelines and protocols, we are trying to get down to that at the moment however it is extremely time consuming. . > Meeting > > , Woody and all others > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we are > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be good. the > issues at hand for us are: > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public health > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other activities > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs of > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the inconsistency in > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. some > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were not; some > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some hadn't > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall report, we > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, and > what > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > contact, > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > guidelines > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying out > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings from other > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst doing > this. > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family health > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be collected > and > collated to contribute to community and population needs assessment. How > do > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help joint > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have been > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident that we > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical frameworks. > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get a > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on need. > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our CPHVA > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I wonder > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > Charlene > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 Xena, I would love to talk to you around some of these issues, I know I had your number at one point but seem to have lost it. Could you let me have it again or contact me on 020 8861 1735. > Re: Meeting > > you quote exactly the work we have achieved in the last year through the > project in east somerset. Its been a long hard slog, but we have achieved > everything you mention, and even come out the other side without losing a > single person! (they left before the project began) so we are all getting > ready to celebrate our hard work. Any work you would like/need, I'm happy > to share, from profiling to reviewing core surveillance programme to > sorring out and avoiding conflicts! > regards, Xena > > >>> charlene@... 01/25/02 12:59pm >>> > , Woody and all others > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we are > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be good. the > issues at hand for us are: > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public health > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other activities > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs of > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the inconsistency in > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. some > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were not; some > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some hadn't > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall report, we > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, and > what > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > contact, > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > guidelines > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying out > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings from other > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst doing > this. > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family health > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be collected > and > collated to contribute to community and population needs assessment. How > do > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help joint > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have been > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident that we > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical frameworks. > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get a > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on need. > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our CPHVA > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I wonder > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > Charlene > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 work is (01935) 423981, I'm in the office most days or in and out, but I'd be glad to talk, Xena >>> rachel.stephen@... 01/28/02 09:21am >>> Xena, I would love to talk to you around some of these issues, I know I had your number at one point but seem to have lost it. Could you let me have it again or contact me on 020 8861 1735. > Re: Meeting > > you quote exactly the work we have achieved in the last year through the > project in east somerset. Its been a long hard slog, but we have achieved > everything you mention, and even come out the other side without losing a > single person! (they left before the project began) so we are all getting > ready to celebrate our hard work. Any work you would like/need, I'm happy > to share, from profiling to reviewing core surveillance programme to > sorring out and avoiding conflicts! > regards, Xena > > >>> charlene@... 01/25/02 12:59pm >>> > , Woody and all others > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we are > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be good. the > issues at hand for us are: > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public health > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other activities > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs of > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the inconsistency in > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. some > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were not; some > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some hadn't > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall report, we > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, and > what > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > contact, > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > guidelines > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying out > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings from other > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst doing > this. > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family health > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be collected > and > collated to contribute to community and population needs assessment. How > do > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help joint > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have been > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident that we > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical frameworks. > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get a > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on need. > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our CPHVA > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I wonder > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > Charlene > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 Hi everyone It is great to hear you all talking about the developments you are making and to hear how you are all moving forward on similar issues. I keep telling the Trusts I am working with that what they need is a professional devleopment person if they are really seroius about development. I think a conference for you all to share what you are doing and pool knowledge as well as perhaps having a couple of speakers would be great. Am happy to help in anyway - to faciltiate, present, share what I am doing etc. Regards Margaret Re: Meeting > Hi Charlene and Xena > It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work > and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we > also are looking at health needs assessment, child health > surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across > what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly > slowly - is it like that for others? > Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we > haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't > had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified > now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. > Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about > the triumph of hope over experience!! > It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it > helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I > sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone > reinventing wheels. > Regards > > > > > , Woody and all others > > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we > are > > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be > good. the > > issues at hand for us are: > > > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public > health > > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other > activities > > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs > of > > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the > inconsistency in > > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. > some > > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were > not; some > > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some > hadn't > > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall > report, we > > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, > and what > > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > contact, > > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > guidelines > > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying > out > > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings > from other > > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst > doing this. > > > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family > health > > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be > collected and > > collated to contribute to community and population needs > assessment. How do > > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help > joint > > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have > been > > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident > that we > > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical > frameworks. > > > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get > a > > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on > need. > > > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our > CPHVA > > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I > wonder > > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > > > Charlene > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 I have been reading with interest the ideas vis a vis conference versus study days. On reflection I wonder if a format of 3/4 meetings a year in different parts of the country with a couple of presentations at the meeting. A round robin with people introducing themselves (briefly) and lists of contacts. I belong to a national research group related to teenage parents and we meet quarterly, share practice,listen to a couple of presentations, Network over lunch and have a list of whose, whose after each meeting. It has been a great source of info and networking, as well encouraging research. It does mean someone has to coordinate the meeting, send out lists to all members. We start at 11 am and finish at 4p.m. so trains etc. are possible. Just a thought. Jeanette > Hi everyone > >It is great to hear you all talking about the developments you are making >and to hear how you are all moving forward on similar issues. > >I keep telling the Trusts I am working with that what they need is a >professional devleopment person if they are really seroius about >development. > >I think a conference for you all to share what you are doing and pool >knowledge as well as perhaps having a couple of speakers would be great. > >Am happy to help in anyway - to faciltiate, present, share what I am doing >etc. > >Regards > >Margaret > Re: Meeting > > > Hi Charlene and Xena > It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work > and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we > also are looking at health needs assessment, child health > surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across > what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly > slowly - is it like that for others? > Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we > haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't > had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified > now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. > Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about > the triumph of hope over experience!! > It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it > helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I > sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone > reinventing wheels. > Regards > > > > > , Woody and all others > > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we > are > > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be > good. the > > issues at hand for us are: > > > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public > health > > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other > activities > > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs > of > > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the > inconsistency in > > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. > some > > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were > not; some > > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some > hadn't > > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall > report, we > > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, > and what > > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > contact, > > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > guidelines > > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying > out > > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings > from other > > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst > doing this. > > > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family > health > > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be > collected and > > collated to contribute to community and population needs > assessment. How do > > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help > joint > > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have > been > > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident > that we > > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical > frameworks. > > > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get > a > > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on > need. > > > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our > CPHVA > > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I > wonder > > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > > > Charlene > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 Hi Margaret, At present I am trying to arrange something in Chelmsford in June/ July, and would value your expertise. I would like to talk with you once I have tied up the venue. There are lots of ideas coming from people in practice, and has offered to speak. Speak to you soon I hope. Re: Meeting > > > > Hi Charlene and Xena > > It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work > > and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we > > also are looking at health needs assessment, child health > > surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across > > what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly > > slowly - is it like that for others? > > Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we > > haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't > > had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified > > now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. > > Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about > > the triumph of hope over experience!! > > It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it > > helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I > > sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone > > reinventing wheels. > > Regards > > > > > > > > > , Woody and all others > > > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > > > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we > > are > > > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be > > good. the > > > issues at hand for us are: > > > > > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public > > health > > > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other > > activities > > > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs > > of > > > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the > > inconsistency in > > > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. > > some > > > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were > > not; some > > > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some > > hadn't > > > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall > > report, we > > > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, > > and what > > > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > > contact, > > > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > > guidelines > > > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying > > out > > > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings > > from other > > > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst > > doing this. > > > > > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family > > health > > > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be > > collected and > > > collated to contribute to community and population needs > > assessment. How do > > > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help > > joint > > > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have > > been > > > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident > > that we > > > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical > > frameworks. > > > > > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get > > a > > > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on > > need. > > > > > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our > > CPHVA > > > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I > > wonder > > > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > > > > > Charlene > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Hi Missed you at the meeting - glad to help - just let me know. The most important thing for me is the date!! Margaret Re: Meeting > > > > > > > Hi Charlene and Xena > > > It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work > > > and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we > > > also are looking at health needs assessment, child health > > > surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across > > > what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly > > > slowly - is it like that for others? > > > Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we > > > haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't > > > had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified > > > now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. > > > Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about > > > the triumph of hope over experience!! > > > It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it > > > helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I > > > sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone > > > reinventing wheels. > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Woody and all others > > > > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > > > > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we > > > are > > > > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be > > > good. the > > > > issues at hand for us are: > > > > > > > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public > > > health > > > > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other > > > activities > > > > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs > > > of > > > > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the > > > inconsistency in > > > > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. > > > some > > > > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were > > > not; some > > > > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some > > > hadn't > > > > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall > > > report, we > > > > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, > > > and what > > > > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > > > contact, > > > > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > > > guidelines > > > > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying > > > out > > > > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings > > > from other > > > > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst > > > doing this. > > > > > > > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family > > > health > > > > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be > > > collected and > > > > collated to contribute to community and population needs > > > assessment. How do > > > > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help > > > joint > > > > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have > > > been > > > > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident > > > that we > > > > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical > > > frameworks. > > > > > > > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get > > > a > > > > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on > > > need. > > > > > > > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our > > > CPHVA > > > > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I > > > wonder > > > > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > > > > > > > Charlene > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Hi Margaret, Thanks for that. I will be in touch. I was sorry to have missed the meeting too, but 's job interviews are having to take precedent at the moment. Regards, Re: Meeting > > > > > > > > > > Hi Charlene and Xena > > > > It is amazing that we are all struggling to carry out the same work > > > > and we are probably all duplicating the effort! Here in Bridgend we > > > > also are looking at health needs assessment, child health > > > > surveillance, equity of caseloads and consistency of practice across > > > > what was previously 3 Trust areas. We also seem to move exceedingly > > > > slowly - is it like that for others? > > > > Although we have examples from others (thanks to Xena) to date we > > > > haven't been able to make progress. Partly this is because we haven't > > > > had a health visiting manager for 2 years - this is being rectified > > > > now and hopefully we will have 1.5 WTE in the next couple of months. > > > > Mostly we are just fire fighting, but you know what they say about > > > > the triumph of hope over experience!! > > > > It's just shows how good it is to share thoughts on SENATE as it > > > > helps to confirm we are going in the right direction. However I > > > > sometimes wonder whether some central direction wouild avoid everyone > > > > reinventing wheels. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Woody and all others > > > > > Looks like Chelmsford is good. > > > > > In our area HVs have been working very hard to move forward, but we > > > > are > > > > > still struggling and a study day to help move forward would be > > > > good. the > > > > > issues at hand for us are: > > > > > > > > > > 1. There is a recognition that in order to develop the wider public > > > > health > > > > > scope of health visiting HVs need to curtail some of the other > > > > activities > > > > > they do. In a recent parent focus group to assess the health needs > > > > of > > > > > school aged children, a strong theme that emerged was the > > > > inconsistency in > > > > > service delivery by health visiting experienced by some parents ie. > > > > some > > > > > parents were recieving 3.5 yr development assessments, some were > > > > not; some > > > > > were recieving intensive home visiting (they didn't know why), some > > > > hadn't > > > > > seen a HV etc. etc. In the light of this and the proposed Hall > > > > report, we > > > > > have looked at child health surveillance eg. 3.5 yr questionnaires, > > > > and what > > > > > some of the 'core' health visiting work should entail eg antenatal > > > > contact, > > > > > PND pathways. And yes Xena, we are looking at grounding this in > > > > guidelines > > > > > and protocols. We know that there are many other HV teams carrying > > > > out > > > > > similar work so it would be nice to share outcomes and findings > > > > from other > > > > > teams and be supported and guided by those with expertise whilst > > > > doing this. > > > > > > > > > > 2. We are trying to get our heads around what constitutes 'family > > > > health > > > > > needs assessment'. How and what information/data needs to be > > > > collected and > > > > > collated to contribute to community and population needs > > > > assessment. How do > > > > > we collect and share information with other disciplines to help > > > > joint > > > > > approaches. Again it would be good to share the work others have > > > > been > > > > > doing, guided and supported by expertise so that we feel confident > > > > that we > > > > > are developing high quality practice within legal and ethical > > > > frameworks. > > > > > > > > > > 3. We are also struggling with caseload weighting and trying to get > > > > a > > > > > consensus on equity of Hv distribution within the Trust based on > > > > need. > > > > > > > > > > These are some ideas for a study day what do others think? Our > > > > CPHVA > > > > > regional committee were looking to support a regional study day, I > > > > wonder > > > > > whether it would be appropriate for them to support this? > > > > > > > > > > Charlene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hi Ray, I am also in CA, but in the San Francisco bay area. I would be open to meeting others in CA. I also am fairly new to the group as I was just diagnosed with Achalasia in May of this year after suffering for 8 yrs with it. I had a dilatation in May which is now pretty much worn off. Difficulty swallowing and spasms are back. After reading many posts from group members, I have decided not to have a second dilatation and go for the myotomy. I have an appointment on Thurs. July 10 to see a surgeon at Stanford Medical Center in Palo Alto. I do not know much of her background at this point, but, thanks to this group I have lots of good questions to ask. I believe you are correct in wanting to learn as much about what is ahead of you. From what I understand, our "a" never goes away and is a progressive disease. Read everything on the internet you can find regarding achalasia and the treatments. Read old posts from the group. You will find much support and info from the people here, as I have. K. raymondmartin2003 <raymondmartin2003@...> wrote: I have seen that several of you are in the Southern California area. Since the onset of my symptoms is relatively new and I have yet to receive any treatment; other than using nitro to help eating, I would like the opportunity to meet some of you in person. If there is anyone or several of you that would be agreeable to that, I would be willing to host a kind of get together on a future date. I hope that I will get several of you to respond. I don't like what I have read here; but I realize that I inevitably must go forward. I just want to make the best and most informed decisions that I can. I believe that everyone here has no agenda other than to help one another. I don't believe the same of the medical community. I have always felt a general condescension in the doctor patient relationship. Anyway, please think about it one and all and let me know either by posting or emailing me.Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Several of you have expressed an interest in meeting and are wondering what my location is here in California. It is in Huntington Beach. I will wait a week or so to get a number of responses and then set something towards the end of August so that people can plan accordingly. Ray > I have seen that several of you are in the Southern California area. > Since the onset of my symptoms is relatively new and I have yet to > receive any treatment; other than using nitro to help eating, I would > like the opportunity to meet some of you in person. If there is > anyone or several of you that would be agreeable to that, I would be > willing to host a kind of get together on a future date. I hope that > I will get several of you to respond. I don't like what I have read > here; but I realize that I inevitably must go forward. I just want > to make the best and most informed decisions that I can. I believe > that everyone here has no agenda other than to help one another. I > don't believe the same of the medical community. I have always felt > a general condescension in the doctor patient relationship. Anyway, > please think about it one and all and let me know either by posting > or emailing me. > > Ray > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Oh, how wonderful. I wish I could meet other people with achalasia in person. Sometimes I feel like I am the only person in The Netherlands who has this disease. Very lonely feeling. Hugs, Biancka meeting There is a group of about 12 who live near by We are trying to get together each month Sounds like Dec 18th will be our first We will meet every third Thursday Hey that sound good ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Hi Bianca ....... Yes it would be wonderful to meet in person ....... but at least we have this group. I too felt very alone with my " A " until I came here ...... Have a good weekend! Calgary, Canada : b i a n c k a : wrote: > > Oh, how wonderful. I wish I could meet other people with achalasia in > person. Sometimes I feel like I am the only person in The Netherlands > who has this disease. Very lonely feeling. > > Hugs, > Biancka > > meeting > > There is a group of about 12 who live near by We are trying to get together each month Sounds like Dec 18th will be our first We will meet every third Thursday Hey that sound good > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 IWill you be going out for a meal? Kev > meeting > > > There is a group of about 12 who live near by We are trying to get >together each month Sounds like Dec 18th will be our first We will meet every >third Thursday Hey that sound good > > > > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Jim, Do u have a link I can have for the info on vaccines were not responsible for the decline of diseases? Thanks Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry meeting I just had a meeting with the superintendent of the schools my grand kids go to. I gave him some info that prove vaccines were not responsible for the decline of diseases. I gave him some pictures of kids who died from vaccines including the girl from new york. I gave him a copy of a newspaper from 1894 of the allopaths taking pus out of a cow and injecting it into children. Among other things I gave him a copy of the state law on religious exemption and told him I will be contacting every school in the county. I said this madness must stop. I said it won't be long before parents will be demanding answers as to why they have been lied too. He acted like he was surprised at some of the info, listened intently, and thanked me for my time. I have no idea of what he thought, but it doesn't matter he got the message and will pass it on. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Send me a self address stamped envelope and i can make copies from my 1953 medical book and send it to you. Jim O' PO box 78 Wheeler IN 46393 ________________________________ From: " Lnanaa@... " <Lnanaa@...> Vaccinations Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:54:20 PM Subject: Re: meeting  Jim, Do u have a link I can have for the info on vaccines were not responsible for the decline of diseases? Thanks Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry meeting I just had a meeting with the superintendent of the schools my grand kids go to. I gave him some info that prove vaccines were not responsible for the decline of diseases. I gave him some pictures of kids who died from vaccines including the girl from new york. I gave him a copy of a newspaper from 1894 of the allopaths taking pus out of a cow and injecting it into children. Among other things I gave him a copy of the state law on religious exemption and told him I will be contacting every school in the county. I said this madness must stop. I said it won't be long before parents will be demanding answers as to why they have been lied too. He acted like he was surprised at some of the info, listened intently, and thanked me for my time. I have no idea of what he thought, but it doesn't matter he got the message and will pass it on. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 what is more important is that deaths from those diseases had declined. That is what we have information on. (and some diseases had declined too, but not all - but it is the deaths that had declined which is what is important) I'll send info Sheri At 03:54 PM 8/31/2009, you wrote: >Jim, > > > >Do u have a link I can have for the info on >vaccines were not responsible for the decline of diseases? > > > >Thanks > > > >Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry > > > > meeting > > > > > >I just had a meeting with the superintendent of >the schools my grand kids go to. > > > >I gave him some info that prove vaccines were >not responsible for the decline of diseases. > > > >I gave him some pictures of kids who died from >vaccines including the girl from new york. > > > >I gave him a copy of a newspaper from 1894 of >the allopaths taking pus out of a cow and injecting it into children. > > > >Among other things I gave him a copy of the >state law on religious exemption and told him I >will be contacting every school in the county. I >said this madness must stop. I said it won't be >long before parents will be demanding answers as >to why they have been lied too. > > > >He acted like he was surprised at some of the >info, listened intently, and thanked me for my time. > > > >I have no idea of what he thought, but it >doesn't matter he got the message and will pass it on. > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I bet he was surprised. Most people give no thought to this until someone like you tells them. Great job, Jim! Winnie meeting Jim O' > I just had a meeting with the superintendent of the schools my > grand kids go to. > > I gave him some info that prove vaccines were not responsible > for the decline of diseases. > > I gave him some pictures of kids who died from vaccines > including the girl from new york. > > I gave him a copy of a newspaper from 1894 of the allopaths > taking pus out of a cow and injecting it into children. > > Among other things I gave him a copy of the state law on > religious exemption and told him I will be contacting every > school in the county. I said this madness must stop. I said it > won't be long before parents will be demanding answers as to why > they have been lied too. > > He acted like he was surprised at some of the info, listened > intently, and thanked me for my time. > > I have no idea of what he thought, but it doesn't matter he got > the message and will pass it on. > > Jim > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I wish I had the courage to do that. My kids school sent home a prevention letter...nothing about a vax yet. Just said if you have signs of the flu to stay home. I was given the same lecture at church when I left the kids at nursery, I wanted to laugh. wharrison@... wrote: > Â > I bet he was surprised. Most people give no thought to this until someone like you tells them. Great job, Jim! > Winnie > meeting > Jim O' >> I just had a meeting with the superintendent of the schools my >> grand kids go to. >> >> I gave him some info that prove vaccines were not responsible >> for the decline of diseases. >> >> I gave him some pictures of kids who died from vaccines >> including the girl from new york. >> >> I gave him a copy of a newspaper from 1894 of the allopaths >> taking pus out of a cow and injecting it into children. >> >> Among other things I gave him a copy of the state law on >> religious exemption and told him I will be contacting every >> school in the county. I said this madness must stop. I said it >> won't be long before parents will be demanding answers as to why >> they have been lied too. >> >> He acted like he was surprised at some of the info, listened >> intently, and thanked me for my time. >> >> I have no idea of what he thought, but it doesn't matter he got >> the message and will pass it on. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 That is AWESOME Jim! Put a smile on my face just reading it. Thanks for sharing! -Arlynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Guess they haven't heard about the vaccine yet?? You'll one day have the courage. Wait until you get sick and tired of this and there will be no stopping you. Winnie meeting > > Jim O' > >> I just had a meeting with the superintendent of the schools > my > >> grand kids go to. > >> > >> I gave him some info that prove vaccines were not responsible > >> for the decline of diseases. > >> > >> I gave him some pictures of kids who died from vaccines > >> including the girl from new york. > >> > >> I gave him a copy of a newspaper from 1894 of the allopaths > >> taking pus out of a cow and injecting it into children. > >> > >> Among other things I gave him a copy of the state law on > >> religious exemption and told him I will be contacting every > >> school in the county. I said this madness must stop. I said > it > >> won't be long before parents will be demanding answers as to > why > >> they have been lied too. > >> > >> He acted like he was surprised at some of the info, listened > >> intently, and thanked me for my time. > >> > >> I have no idea of what he thought, but it doesn't matter he > got > >> the message and will pass it on. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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