Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Yes to both your questions here is a link for you http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/text-work- ussi.htm > > Hey all, > > So I was hoping someone here could help me answer a few questions I > have about benefits. I'm working part-time as a tutor at school for > about 20 hrs per wk with pay at $7.25/hr. At the moment I also receive > SSI. My question is, 1. Do I need to let the social security people > know about working since I am getting paid? and 2. Will my pay affect > my SSI benefits? > > Thanks for any help!! > > -preet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 the link doesn't seem to be working??? Kay <wildflower63@...> wrote: Yes to both your questions here is a link for you http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/text-work- ussi.htm > > Hey all, > > So I was hoping someone here could help me answer a few questions I > have about benefits. I'm working part-time as a tutor at school for > about 20 hrs per wk with pay at $7.25/hr. At the moment I also receive > SSI. My question is, 1. Do I need to let the social security people > know about working since I am getting paid? and 2. Will my pay affect > my SSI benefits? > > Thanks for any help!! > > -preet > --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/text-work-<http://www.ss\ a.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/text-work-ussi.htm> ussi.htm <http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/text-work-ussi.htm> Try that, sis. On 2/27/07, Preet <dreamzofx23@...> wrote: > > the link doesn't seem to be working??? > > Kay <wildflower63@... <wildflower63%40>> wrote: Yes to both > your questions > here is a link for you > > http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/text-work- > ussi.htm > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > So I was hoping someone here could help me answer a few questions I > > have about benefits. I'm working part-time as a tutor at school for > > about 20 hrs per wk with pay at $7.25/hr. At the moment I also receive > > SSI. My question is, 1. Do I need to let the social security people > > know about working since I am getting paid? and 2. Will my pay affect > > my SSI benefits? > > > > Thanks for any help!! > > > > -preet > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 cut/copy and paste the URL to include the htm tag at the end of the url > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > So I was hoping someone here could help me answer a few questions I > > > have about benefits. I'm working part-time as a tutor at school for > > > about 20 hrs per wk with pay at $7.25/hr. At the moment I also receive > > > SSI. My question is, 1. Do I need to let the social security people > > > know about working since I am getting paid? and 2. Will my pay affect > > > my SSI benefits? > > > > > > Thanks for any help!! > > > > > > -preet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > Try the Beta. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yes and yes. If you don't tell them, they will find out anyway and threaten to cut you off unless you have developed an IRWE (Impairment Related Work Expense plan). Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Do you or anyone else know how much my 7.25/hr pay will affect my SSI? like how much less will I get? right now I get around 600/mnth. Does it make a difference if I am doing through school? Because I am also getting credit for it at the same time...I'm new to this stuff so it is all a bit confusing. -preet VickiLJurney@... wrote: Yes and yes. If you don't tell them, they will find out anyway and threaten to cut you off unless you have developed an IRWE (Impairment Related Work Expense plan). Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 This doesn't answer your question, but it is a suggestion I always make. When you do report your income, it is better to say you earn a little more than you do otherwise you will have a perpetual overpayment. What will happen is that you will send in proof of your income (paycheck stubs) to your local office for verification of income and from that they will know how much ssi you should have received for those months which they would have already paid you. If you over estimate your earnings you may get cash back rather than owing. Preet <dreamzofx23@...> wrote: Do you or anyone else know how much my 7.25/hr pay will affect my SSI? like how much less will I get? right now I get around 600/mnth. Does it make a difference if I am doing through school? Because I am also getting credit for it at the same time...I'm new to this stuff so it is all a bit confusing. -preet VickiLJurney@... wrote: Yes and yes. If you don't tell them, they will find out anyway and threaten to cut you off unless you have developed an IRWE (Impairment Related Work Expense plan). Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Preet, Because you are under age 22 and are regularly attending school, SSA does not count up to $1,510 of earned income per month. This is called the Student Earned Income Exclusion. It is described on page 44 of SSA's Red Book. The maximum yearly exclusion is $6,100. These amounts are for the year 2007; they are adjusted each year based on the cost-of-living. The amounts listed in the Red Book are from 2006. If you earn over these amounts, the regular work incentive rules apply. When you are 22 or over, the regular SSI work incentive rules apply. I wrote the following explanation about the rule a while ago for my clients in California and keep it up to date. You can also read about the rules in the Red Book at: http://www.ssa.gov/work/ResourcesToolkit/redbook_page.html For those of you in different states, I can dig up numbers if needed. Alana Your Friendly Neighborhood Benefits Planner Rules for Folks on SSI and Working There is a formula that the Social Security Administration (SSA) uses for SSI beneficiaries with additional income from employment. Please Note: There are different rules for blind and/or self- employed beneficiaries. There are also different rules for SSI beneficiaries with unearned income such as SSDI, alimony, etc. Those rules are not addressed here. SSI RATES IN 2007 - Living Independent in California Only Note: A beneficiary may not receive the full SSI amount because they are receiving help with housing or food costs or are repaying an overpayment. - Aged or Disabled (non-Blind) Single Individual - $856.00 - Blind Single Individual - $921.00 - Couple, Both Aged or Disabled (non-Blind) - $1,502.00 - Couple, One Aged or Disabled, One Blind - $1,644.00 - Couple, Both Blind - $1,729.00 REPORTING INCOME - Reporting your income in writing is required. Mail or bring in original pay stubs and original receipts for IRWE's. SSA will make copies and return the originals to you. No matter what anyone tells you, it is NOT possible to officially report your income over the phone. - You should report your income by the 10th day of the following month in which you earned it. It doesn't count WHEN you WORKED...It counts WHEN you were PAID. Ex: If you work all February and get paid on March 1st, it's March income to be reported by April 10th. Get paid on July 15th & 31st, report your income to SSA by August 10th, and your September SSI check will be reduced accordingly. THE SSI WORK INCENTIVE FORMULA - The 1st $85.00 you earn in a month doesn't count against your SSI. - After that, for every dollar you earn, half ($.50) is deducted from your future SSI check; the other half you keep. - SSA uses your GROSS income (before taxes and deductions) when making these calculations; not your NET income (the actual pay amount). Example: If in July you earn $800 gross, and your monthly SSI is $856, and if you report your income by August 10th: $800.00 (Your Gross Earned Income) - $85.00 ($65 Earned Income Exclusion + $20 General Income Exclusion) = $715.00 Divided by 2 = $357.50 (Countable Income) You keep $85.00 and $357.50 and SSA reduces your September SSI by $357.50 (July's Countable Income), paying you $498.50 in September. IMPAIRMENT RELATED WORK EXPENSES (IRWE's) You may deduct the cost of out-of-pocket expenses that relate to your disability AND work. Examples: - Acupuncture to manage pain - Adaptive software or equipment to use at work - Vitamin supplements - Appointment and prescription co-payments - Personal assistance services (PAS) not covered by another source but required to be able to work - Transportation in a modified vehicle There is not a standard list of allowed IRWE's. They are determined on an individual basis. One may be required to provide written justification from a medical practitioner. THE SSI WORK INCENTIVE FORMULA w/IRWE's Example: If in July you earn $800 gross, your monthly SSI is $812, and if you report your income by August 10th, AND you spend $100 on IRWE's: $800.00 (gross Earned Income) - $85.00 ($65 Earned Income Exclusion + $20 General Income Exclusion) = $715.00 - $100.00 (IRWE's) = $615.00 Divided by 2 = $307.50 (Countable Income) You keep $85.00, and you keep $307.50, and SSA reduces your September SSI by $307.50 (July's Countable Income), paying you $548.50 in September. MEDI-CAL (MEDICAID) & IN-HOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES (IHSS is in CALIFORNIA) If your earnings are high enough for the above formula to make your SSI payments go down to $0.00, you are automatically put into a category called 1619(. This is a section of the Social Security Act that maintains your Medicaid eligibility if your gross annual earnings are below $39,920. This figure is called the 1619( Standard Threshold. This amount is for California only and is different in each state. If your earned income goes higher than the 1619( Standard Threshold, you may still be eligible for Medicaid if your medical expenses are high and your earnings and any other existing insurance cannot support your medical needs - SSA will calculate an Individual Threshold for you. Example: You earn $2,200.00/mo. gross and have medical insurance through your employer. The insurance does not cover necessary Personal Assistance Services (PAS). IHSS pays $2,226.00/mo. for 212 hours of PAS. Because IHSS pays for necessary health care that is too expensive for your earned income to pay, you will maintain your Medi-Cal and IHSS eligibility. You must continue to report income and IRWE's every month to SSA. THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND SSA defines disability as an inability to work. Working contradict this definition, hence, you are defying a basic premise under which the SSA disability rules were written. It is likely that mistakes will be made when calculating you SSI eligibility. KEEP all your paperwork and make notes of verbal interactions with SSA. There is no statute of limitations on SSA looking back to question earnings and SSI payments. It's best to either have stable income or to set your earnings aside until the month your SSI goes down. Most of this information is in Social Security's Red Book at the SSA office or on-line at http://www.ssa.gov > > Do you or anyone else know how much my 7.25/hr pay will affect my SSI? like how much less will I get? right now I get around 600/mnth. Does it make a difference if I am doing through school? Because I am also getting credit for it at the same time...I'm new to this stuff so it is all a bit confusing. > > -preet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 SSI is very difficult to deal with in many ways, but its especially hard because you never talk to the same person (if you call the toll free number) and some of the people who work there don't know what they're doing. I won't go into my long saga, but I'll just say that I am now having to pay back what is for me a very large amount of money, because I was told several times that I was not in overpayment, when in fact I was. So the money accumulated, and now I am having to pay it all back. Fortunately for me, they will do payment plans. Make sure that you keep a record of who you talk to and everything that was said each time you call. Also, you need to know that they look at your gross amount of income, not your take home pay. But if you are tutoring, you probably aren't having anything taken out for taxes or anything like that. Dina --- Preet <dreamzofx23@...> wrote: > Do you or anyone else know how much my 7.25/hr pay > will affect my SSI? like how much less will I get? > right now I get around 600/mnth. Does it make a > difference if I am doing through school? Because I > am also getting credit for it at the same > time...I'm new to this stuff so it is all a bit > confusing. > > -preet > > VickiLJurney@... wrote: > Yes and yes. If you don't > tell them, they will find out anyway and threaten > to cut you off unless you have developed an IRWE > (Impairment Related Work > Expense plan). > > Vicki > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Can you tell me what an IRWE is? --- VickiLJurney@... wrote: IRWE > (Impairment Related Work > Expense plan). > > Vicki > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/newmail_tools.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 IRWE = Impairment Related Work Expense They are out-of-pocket expenses that are related to both your disability AND your ability to work. You will find a good description on pages 30-33 of the Red Book. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/redbook/eng/page30.htm#2 The IRS also allows taxpayers to deduct IRWEs. The rules are a bit different. Consult with the IRS or a certified tax preparer for details. You cannot claim an IRWE with both the IRS and SSA. Alana > IRWE > > (Impairment Related Work > > Expense plan). > > > > Vicki > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Beta. > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Thanks! It is amazing the things they DONT tell you about! I am saving this so I can ask about it when I do indeed go to work! Thanks again! --- Alana <alrt@...> wrote: > IRWE = Impairment Related Work Expense > > They are out-of-pocket expenses that are related to > both your > disability AND your ability to work. You will find > a good > description on pages 30-33 of the Red Book. > > http://www.socialsecurity.gov/redbook/eng/page30.htm#2 > > The IRS also allows taxpayers to deduct IRWEs. The > rules are a bit > different. Consult with the IRS or a certified tax > preparer for > details. > > You cannot claim an IRWE with both the IRS and SSA. > > Alana > > > > IRWE > > > (Impairment Related Work > > > Expense plan). > > > > > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email > Auto-Check. > > Try the Beta. > > > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile./mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 You're welcome! > > Thanks! It is amazing the things they DONT tell you > about! I am saving this so I can ask about it when I > do indeed go to work! > > Thanks again! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 << Hi, I have a question. My son is making $50 a week and I want to know how this affects his SSI. I thought that if he made more then $80 a month they took $1 for each $2 he make over the $80 out of his SSI check. Could someone help me? Jeannette>> Hi Jeanette-- How old is your son? If he is still in school, they will not count his income against him (You will need to provide proof of this and still submit pay stubs) - it's considered " work training " . A good thing to keep in mind when your son or daughter is between the ages of 18-21-- they can keep all the $ they make. If he is not in school, yes, they do as you said above. The other thing you may want to look into is something called a " PASS or IRWE " plan, if your son is looking toward making more money. These are Social Security Work Incentive programs. They allow you to subtract the disability related support costs for the individual so that you can keep more of the social security.(And your medicaid) It is really a complicated formula, and I'm not particularly adept at it, but if you are looking to have your son move to more hours and make more money--- it is something really worth looking into. Especially if someone is being paid to support him in employment--- like a job coach, or if they paid to make any accomdations for him. M.<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour</HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 When my son received his SSI it was retroactive to the date we applied. Am I able to use these funds to reimburse for services received during that period. For example, the first check was received in April, 2011, but retroactive to November, 2010. If I paid a Dr.'s bill for December, can I reimburse myself from these funds? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I asked the same question a week or so back, maybe not summarized as well as you. I dont believe I got the exact answer to the question. The answer came in more broad being answered as the uses for the SSI monthly check; so I'm sorry I don't personally know. Hopefully now that 2 of us have asked the same question, it might be readdressed, and someone might be able to answer. DS > > When my son received his SSI it was retroactive to the date we applied. Am I able to use these funds to reimburse for services received during that period. For example, the first check was received in April, 2011, but retroactive to November, 2010. If I paid a Dr.'s bill for December, can I reimburse myself from these funds? Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 When Adam got his first check including previous months, the SSI agent told me specifically to pay myself back for the 3 months of shared living expenses. So I would assume MD bills from Dec. in your case are fine, but not from October. > > > > When my son received his SSI it was retroactive to the date we applied. Am I able to use these funds to reimburse for services received during that period. For example, the first check was received in April, 2011, but retroactive to November, 2010. If I paid a Dr.'s bill for December, can I reimburse myself from these funds? Thanks. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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